China to take back Thitu Island?

[Viet]

200 BC – Chinese fishermen have used the Spratly Island(SI).[1]
3rd century AD

220 AD –280 AD - Two famous Chinese books authored by Wan Zhen of the Eastern Wu State published during the Three Kingdoms, and a work titled Guangzhou Ji authored by Pei Yuan of the Jin Dynasties described the Paracel and Spratly Island (P&SI).[2]
Jin Dynasties exercised jurisdiction over the islands by sending patrolling naval boats to the surrounding sea areas.[3]
5th–13th centuries

420–479 AD Southern Dynasties Naval forces patrolled the P&SI.[4]
618 AD –907 AD Tang Dynasty the islands were placed under the administration and authority of the Qiongzhou Perfecture (now Hainan Province).[4]
970 AD –1279 AD – Chinese administration of the South China Sea continued into the North and South Song dynasties.[4]
Archaeologists have found Chinese made potteries porcelains and other historical relics from the Southern dynasties (420–589), the Sui dynasties (581–618), the Tang dynasty (618–907), the Song Dynasties (960–1279), the Yuan dynasties (1206–1368), the Ming dynasty (1368–1644) and later eras up to modern times on the South China Sea islands.[4]

World War II

• 1939 – Japan occupies the islands and takes control of the South China Sea. [24]
• 1951 – San Francisco Peace Treaty:

The critics forget that in the 1951 San Francisco Peace Treaty between Japan and the Allied Powers, Article 2(f), states: “Japan renounces all right, title and claim to the Spratly Islands and to the Paracel Islands.” This renunciation of the two island groups, and of Taiwan itself, was confirmed in the U.S.-brokered 1952 peace treaty between Japan and the Taiwan-based Republic of China (ROC), then recognized by the United States and Japan as the sole legitimate government of China.

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• 1952 – Treaty of Taipei

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• June 7, 1996 – UNCLOS Convention Declarations: China Upon ratification

3. The People's Republic of China reaffirms its sovereignty over all its archipelagos and islands as listed in article 2 of the Law of the People's Republic of China on the territorial sea and the contiguous zone, which was promulgated on 25 February 1992.

• Article 2 CHN_1992_Law

The PRC's territorial land includes the mainland and its offshore islands, Taiwan and the various affiliated islands including DiaoYu Island, Penghu Islands, Dongsha Islands, Xisha (Paracel), Nansha (Spratly) Islands and other islands that belong to the People's Republic of China.

>>> China claim South China Sea legally, historically, geographically, and in reality.
Answer to What evidence does China offer to substantiate its claims of sovereignty in the South China Sea? by Michelle Zhou https://www.quora.com/What-evidence...share=f92030f3&srid=ul2ehS&target_type=answer

August 5, 2022 local time, State Councilor and Foreign Minister Wang Yi attended the 12th East Asia Summit Foreign Ministers' Meeting in Phnom Penh, during which he expounded on China's position and refuted the so-called “concerns” expressed by the United States.

Wang Yi said China's position and claims on the South China Sea are supported by solid historical and legal basis. China has never changed the basis nor the scope of its claims,let alone make excessive claims. China and ASEAN countries are committed to properly handling differences through bilateral consultation and negotiation in accordance with the Declaration on the Conduct of Parties in the South China Sea (DOC). Over the years, China and ASEAN countries have worked together to maintain the overall stability in the South China Sea, providing a stable development environment for their respective development and prosperity.

Wang Yi noted that at present, the biggest risk to peace and stability in the South China Sea is precisely the inappropriate intervention and frequent interference by major countries outside the region. For a long time, the United States had not raised any objection to China's claims of sovereignty and rights and interests in the South China Sea, and said that it did not take a position on the sovereignty issue of the islands and reefs in the South China Sea. Now, it has turned to a total negation of China's position and claims. This is untenable in logic, law and justice terms. Where is the credibility of a major country if it changes its established policies at will according to its own political needs? How can it win the trust of others in the future? In recent years, more and more US warships and aircraft have frequently appeared in the South China Sea and the airspace over it. China and the littoral states of the South China Sea cannot help but ask: what on earth is the United States up to? Non-regional countries should abide by their duties and earnestly respect the efforts made by countries in the region to maintain peace and stability in the South China Sea.

Wang Yi said, China and ASEAN countries are speeding up consultation on the Code of Conduct in the South China Sea and will work together to upgrade the DOC and arrive at regional rules that are effective and have real  practical significance.

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Wang Yi is a liar. Don’t cite him and other chinese “scholars”. I can invent the same shit stories and tell people that’s the truth.

 

[etylo]

Wang Yi is a liar. Don’t cite him and other chinese “scholars”. I can invent the same shit stories and tell people that’s the truth.

I think you Viets are much more liars as demostrated everywhere.

 

[Viet]

I think you Viets are much more liars as demostrated everywhere.

Nonsense
Not my view only, from many other in the world my friend
There are so many fake news aus China. Corona, NATO the cause of Ukraine war, the eunuch of south China seas, the old fishermen of south seas. People must take care of fake news from Ccp.

 

[alimobin memon]

That's the sad part. It's been over a year, and they are still fighting in Ukraine. So while NATO supplies arms, it's the Ukrainians fighting. The Russian military was modeled to fight NATO, and they have utterly failed; to this day, they don't have air superiority. To make matters worse, they've run out of active reserve tanks and tapping into post-WWII stock for weaponry. When you have to scavenge like the Russians, the war has worsened. The joke in this conflict, Russia lost two ships, one of which was the flagship of the Black Sea, to a country with no navy.

Problem is with people in the world who think Russia was same soviet country rather its a good country with good military it is never the same. It was peoples fault to think that Russia is mighty military country. Good for Russians to keep world thinking they are still strong and not to be messed with. Now Russia is again fighting a full fledged military so the weaknesses post soviet will be resolved and eventually they will overcome the issues in military. One more thing attacking from land against ships now is easier.
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The joke in this conflict, Russia lost two ships, one of which was the flagship of the Black Sea, to a country with no navy

Russians are not fighting rebel groups they are fighting against a country and invading it. Do you think US, UK, China would fare good against salvos of ASHM or submarine suicide drones ?

See fellow respected member, You could be right overall but Judging by this war all this war shows is that Russian military structure is not effective but that is resolvable if I am not wrong most of the videos are not real or modified to show weakness of the Russian army and show How incompetent Russians are. But reality is Russians are weak in structure but they are not weak in will power and morale and that is the fact. There maybe some groups shown in video who are not willing to fight but that's OK that happens in war.

We need to have mature mindset this war just shows that having strong military does not account for quick victory when Russia realized that then there loses reduced and tactics improved. Also, that Russians never were strong after soviet union they just had gigantic nuclear arsenal.

 

[etylo]

Nonsense
Not my view only, from many other in the world my friend
There are so many fake news aus China. Corona, NATO the cause of Ukraine war, the eunuch of south China seas, the old fishermen of south seas. People must take care of fake news from Ccp.

its people like you who are brainwashed by the malicious Western media lies on China. Chinese news is more credible than most Western news esp on China. You Viets hatred of China make you people good cheer leaders of US led Western anti-China agenda, no surprise. Historical facts are facts !

 

[gambit]

Watching too many fake news. Regions in the Russian Far East had Chinese names before they have their Russian names. It's called history.

I fully support China's claims to those regions. Even militarily if necessary.

 

[Zsari]

I fully support China's claims to those regions. Even militarily if necessary.

China already have resolved the border disputes with Russia. If you take what a professor teaches in history class as Chinese claim like some of these media, you can go really far on what Chinese claims are.

 

[etylo]

China already have resolved the border disputes with Russia. If you take what a professor teaches in history class as Chinese claim like some of these media, you can go really far on what Chinese claims are.

You think Americans and Vietnamese would support Chinese in any good cause ? Nothing but to pit China against Russia.

 

[S10]

Philippines occupied the island in 1971 when it took advantage of the temporary withdraw of the Chinese garrison. There was a storm and Chinese troops under KMT took shelter on another island. KMT did not take action because it would cause issues in the anti-communist coalition led by US. In the past 8 years, China and Philippines had a pretty friendly relationship, so nobody want to touch the issue.

With Philippines trying to bring Americans into the region under the Marcos administration, I don't see why China should play nice any longer.

 

[gambit]

China already have resolved the border disputes with Russia. If you take what a professor teaches in history class as Chinese claim like some of these media, you can go really far on what Chinese claims are.

When China claimed the entirety of the South China Sea as territorial waters, no one believes China on other claims.

 

[Zsari]

You think Americans and Vietnamese would support Chinese in any good cause ? Nothing but to pit China against Russia.

Of course, US has been doing all it can to derail the Russia China relationship, including the media campaign of how China would invade Russia, which is just plain ridiculous. As the bilateral relationship is built upon mutual interest and necessity, these tactics would not yield any result.

When China claimed the entirety of the South China Sea as territorial waters, no one believes China on other claims.

Chinese claim to the SCS is long standing, based on the same ROC claim which is echoed by Taiwan. Whether you believe or not is irrelevant, and moreover shows how misguided you have been by the media.

 

[Yaoudelizard]

When China claimed the entirety of the South China Sea as territorial waters, no one believes China on other claims.

All that matters is the power you can project, all this argument about rightful claims is pointless. On what authority does the US claim for all the islands they colonized in the pacific? It’s all based on military power, the Americans should be the last ones to lecture others on colonization. All the talk about rightful claims is bs and you know it.

 

[Song Hong]

A big case for China to claim Spratly is -- colonial masters of ASEAN published maps that did not include Spratly. It was Chinese who was there first.

 

[gambit]

All that matters is the power you can project, all this argument about rightful claims is pointless.

Thanks. For now, China renamed Russian cities and places, of course, there is nothing Russia can do. Tomorrow, if China believes the power is there, China will claim those Russian territories.

 

[Song Hong]