Desert Fox
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Didn't China co-produce the S-400 in a joint venture with the Russians?
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Do you think that India is the only one poor country who has mass starvation....? Oh s**t...I forgot China is the super duper power of the world..they do not have any poor mass starvation people in their country..Then why do your country is so fearful to allow freedom of speech and freedom of press to the outside world?
Why china is importing from Russia despite of all made in china claims???????
few days back there was news that china is importing second hand planes from Russia.
china spends about 4 times more on defense then India still so much of imports.
Why china is importing from Russia despite of all made in china claims???????
few days back there was news that china is importing second hand planes from Russia.
china spends about 4 times more on defense then India still so much of imports.
The Mig-19, Mig-21 and SU-27 were copied. Today, the SU-27...aka J-11 has changed so much that it is basically an indigenous fighter except for the external appearance. The Kilo, destroyers and most missiles are indigenous. Anybody can argue that so and so component is derived from a foreign design. The reality is, every development is based on something before it and doesn't make them copies. The only things that can realistically be described as copies are licensed copies or stolen blueprints. I still find the claims of the J-10 being a copy of the Lavi ridiculous, especially given that China was already developing the J-9, a delta canard design, for over 10 years prior and that the Lavi is significantly smaller, was never completed, and whose direct involvement with the J-10 was never definitively proven unless you consider a bunch of unsubstantiated claims from unofficial accounts as proof.For me it's not suprise that China still want to buy new weapons available on the market either Russian or else...as long as it can provide some meanfull utility to our defense...say no to new toys is condam ourself...and if Russia is afraid of China's copy then they better not do the same mistake as mig-19, mig-21,su-27, Kilo, missiles, destroyer...wow the list of mistakes is very long...it seems to me that Russia has old habit to make sames mistake with China
Simple chinese goverment don't want to disclose the truth that how people are committing Suicide plus goverment sponsored human right violation plus mass killing without legal proceeding. And most importantly fear that people will demand democracy.
Simple chinese goverment don't want to disclose the truth that how people are committing Suicide plus goverment sponsored human right violation plus mass killing without legal proceeding. And most importantly fear that people will demand democracy.
It's probably more like giving Russia money to make S-400 in exchange for S-300 PMU-2 technology.Didn't China co-produce the S-400 in a joint venture with the Russians?
It never hurts to ask for a sample. Even if you can make your own competitive world-class product. If we want have a healthy relationship with certain Russian companies it benefits us to buy some of our needs from them.They say we want to buy alot of things.
Anybody who wants to buy the S-400 will have to wait until 2017 at the very least, because all current S-400 production is for the Russian Military, and the export version will no doubt be a downgraded.
Anyway by 2017, S-500 will be ready so who cares
Can I say how do people even know the s-400 is any good? is it war tested?