China to get S-400 from russia in 2017

[DrSomnath999]

China wants to buy S-400 anti-aircraft missile launchers from Russia, Vasily Kashin from the Center for Strategy and Technology Analysis told Interfax-AVN on Monday, January 16, 2012. "China has expressed its interest in buying S-400 systems. As far as I understand, Russia is reserved about this
deal," he said.

Russian officials said many times that the deliveries of the new system, S-400 'Triumf', to foreign partners, among them China, would begun after the demand from the national armed forces was met in full. "Not only China but also some other countries are interested in this weapon. Yet our priority is domestic defense orders and the state armament program," the expert said.

The Stockholm International Peace Research Institute (SIPRI) said in its annual report last year that Russia wished to supply S-400 launchers, Ilyushin Il-476 transport jets and Sukhoi Su-33 ship-based jets to China at fair prices despite its concerns about the Chinese possible copying of defense technologies and prospective rivalry on the global market.

The S-400 'Triumf' of the Almaz-Antei Concern is built for highly efficient protection of key political, administrative, economic and military sites from air strikes, strategic, cruise, tactical and operative tactical ballistic missiles and medium-range ballistic missiles.

It can destroy air targets on the range of up to 250 kilometers and hits non-strategic ballistic missiles on the range of up to 60 kilometers.

The aerodynamic target destruction altitude varies from 0.01 to 27 kilometers, and the indicator is 2/7 for ballistic targets. The maximum speed of the destroyed target is 4,800 meters per second. The system simultaneously locks on 6 targets with 72 missiles. It takes five minutes to deploy the system.
http://www.armyrecognition.com/janu...efence_missile_system_from_russia_1901121.htm

 

[Imran Khan]

now russia will never agree i think because of copy issue ?.

 

[DrSomnath999]

now russia will never agree i think because of copy issue ?.

yes u goTTTTA point

 

[Zabaniyah]

I thought Russia wasn't willing to export the S-400 to anyone?

 

[Imran Khan]

then what was it by jenes defence?


First Photos of S-400 in China.
Here is a background information for a public released Jane's entry.


Looking at joint projects such as the S-300/400 family of SAM, it has became apparent that days of hardware fire-sell to the PLA had been long gone; increasingly, as demonstrated by the many joint defense projects that China is a partner with financial and technology contributions.

http://www.janes.com/extracts/extract/jsws/jsws9067.html


HQ-19 (S-400) (China)

Section
Defensive weapons

Appearing in
Jane's Strategic Weapon Systems

Publication date
Dec 23, 2008

Description
It is now believed that the Russian S-400 Triumf (Chinese designator HQ-19) surface-to-air missile system was a joint development programme with China. The system uses the same sensors, battle management and launch vehicles as the Russian S-300 (SA-10/-20 'Grumble') and Chinese HQ-9/-15. The S-400 introduces three new missiles, the 9M96, 9M96/2 and the 40N6, which can be fitted in new canisters replacing all or some of the S-300 missile canisters on the TEL. It is believed that a new TEL vehicle has been developed specifically to carry the S-400 missiles, and that this is a wheeled vehicle carrying six to eight missiles. The 9M96 missile has a length of 4.75 m, a body diameter of 0.24 m, a launch weight of 333 kg, and a 24 kg HE warhead. Guidance is inertial with command updates and an active radar terminal seeker. The missile has a two-stage solid propellant motor system, with a maximum range of 40 km. The second stage has lateral thrust motors to improve manoeuvrability in the terminal phase, similar to the US PAC-3 design. It can intercept targets from 5 m up to 20 km altitude. The 9M96/2 missile has a length of 5.65 m, a body diameter of 0.24 m, and a launch weight of 420 kg. The two missiles share the same separating second stage, but have different boost motors. The 9M96/2 missile has a maximum range of 120 km, and can intercept targets from 5 m up to 30 km altitude. The 40N6 version

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S-400 Triumf (SA-21 'Growler') (Russian Federation), Defensive weapons

Type
Short- and medium-range, ground-based, solid-propellant, theatre defence missile system.

Development
Development is believed to have started in 1990 on a family of missiles to make up a new surface-to-air missile system, called S-400 Triumf. The NATO designator is SA-21 'Growler'. Three missiles have been developed, the 9M96 with a range of 40 km, the 9M96/2 with a range of 120 km, and the 40N6 with a range of 400 km. A fourth missile was reported in 2002, for an upgraded S-400B system, as a proposal for an anti-ballistic missile system. It is also possible that a small number of the 40N6 missiles may be modified for use as ASATs in the future. All the components of the S-400 system are believed to be made in Russia. There have been unconfirmed reports that the complete S-400 family has been developed jointly between Russia and China, with China providing the majority of the funding. It is also reported that the Chinese-built versions will have the designator HQ-19. The missiles are to defend against aircraft, cruise missiles, UAVs, and short- and medium-range ballistic missiles. At some stage in the development programme, it was decided to reduce development costs and to use the S-300 (SA-10 'Grumble') system as a building block, as an alternative to the Triumf stand-alone system. The 9M96 and 9M96/2 missiles, in their respective canisters can be fitted to the S-300 (SA-10D/SA-20) TEL vehicles, with four 9M96 or 9M96/2 missile canisters replacing one S-300 missile canister. This is similar to the US MIM-104 Patriot TEL being fitted with four PAC-3 missiles

S-400 Triumf (SA-21 'Growler') (Russian Federation) - Jane's Strategic Weapon Systems

 

[xataxsata]

Why china is importing from Russia despite of all made in china claims???????

few days back there was news that china is importing second hand planes from Russia.

china spends about 4 times more on defense then India still so much of imports.

 

[IFB]

self delete

 

[canadian icehole]

If Russia is so concerned about China copying it's tech then why ask China for funding. Strictly from a business perspective, I won't go into a joint venture unless I'm going to get something back. There's something missing from these reports. Wouldn't it be better for Russia to license the product to China?

 

[Cheetah786]

Why china is importing from Russia despite of all made in china claims???????

few days back there was news that china is importing second hand planes from Russia.

china spends about 4 times more on defense then India still so much of imports.

Isn't India doing the same

 

[below_freezing]

They say we want to buy alot of things.

 

[Oldman1]

I say sell it to the Chinese. This would increase better relationship between Russia and China.

 

[Birbal]

Leaving the discussion of wether it's morally justified or not, China will copy the S-400 if Russia sells it to them. If Russia cares about revenues, it is not in its interest to sell the S-400 to China.

 

[Kaniska]

even a bullet is a copy of another bullet, but it will still kill you. lucky for you, indian, you don't have to worry about bullets, you need to worry about your mass starvation, which is a self inflicted massacre in itself.

Do you think that India is the only one poor country who has mass starvation....? Oh s**t...I forgot China is the super duper power of the world..they do not have any poor mass starvation people in their country..Then why do your country is so fearful to allow freedom of speech and freedom of press to the outside world?

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

These Russians are annoying, always saying we want to buy this and that, but it always turns out to get faceslapped.

Just few months ago, they also said that we can't produce the arrester cable, now this S-400 crap again.

 

[Martian2]

"The HQ-9 (Chinese: 红旗; pinyin: hóng qí, "red flag" or "red banner") is China’s new generation medium- to long-range, active radar homing air defence missile.[4][5] There are unconfirmed rumors that the HQ-9 uses guidance systems that are similar to those developed in U.S. Patriot missile technology.[3]" (Source: Wikipedia with footnotes to primary sources)

Left: HQ-12/KS-1A TELs and H-200 engagement radar; right: HQ-9 TEL and HT-233 engagement radar. (Source: Australia Air Power)

Deployed HQ-9 battery. Above, self-propelled YLC-2V to the left with its three support vehicles, in the background a HT-233 battery engagement radar. All vehicles employ the “classic” rather than more recent “pixelated” camouflage patterns. (Source: Australia Air Power)

If China is interested in the S-400, it makes perfect sense. Chinese engineers want to see the features that the Russians have incorporated into their system.

China can compare their own innovations for the indigenous HQ-9C "active radar homing air defence missile" with the Russian improvements in the S-400.

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www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HQ-9#Variants

"Variants

• FT-2000 - Anti radiation version that was the first model of HQ-9 family being completed.
• HQ-9 - TVM version SAM.
• HHQ-9 — Naval version.[13]
• HQ-9A — Upgraded version, first tested in 1999 and service entry in 2001.[13] Chinese sources claim that the HQ-9 family of systems employ much newer computing technology than imported Russian S-300PMU/PMU1/PMU2 systems, because HQ-9 is developed more than a decade later, thus allowing it to incorporate advancement in microelectronics. Due to the superior computing capability for signal processing, data processing and guidance support, this missile can have an optional semi-active radar homing (SARH) mode, because more info can be processed on board the missile itself.
• HHQ-9A — Ship-borne naval version of HQ-9A. Eight 6-cell vertical launch silos, of cylindrical shape and using "cold launch" method, mounted on the Type 052C destroyer (48 missiles in total).[14]
• FD-2000 - First revealed in the 8th Zhuhai Airshow, the export version of HQ-9, providing extra anti-stealth capability by incorporating YLC-20 passive sensor as an option.
• HQ-9B — reportedly tested in February 2006.[13] According to Jane's Information Group, this missile has a dual seeker that incorporates both SARH & imaging IR mode [15]
• HQ-9C - Currently under development, incorporating active radar homing mode."