China throws Europe an energy lifeline with LNG resales, Surplus gas eases Russia's stranglehold, but gives Beijing outsize influence

[beijingwalker]

You and your nonsense
The possibility that Greece or any EU country goes bankrupt is 0. You can keep your gas and money to yourself. Yes shut down your the curtains. In case you don’t know there is a European Central Bank. It prints money. The bank doesn’t ask Washington if allowed to print fresh 5 trillions euros.

Let's say if US now is actively seeking to mend ties with China, EU will follow in an eye blink, same will happen in Japan. today's EU's low point relationship with China is only due to US, do you agree?

 

[Indos]

The world is full of surprises. We even have become exporters of natural gas.

LNG to be precise, since natural gas is only distributed through pipe line

 

[Viet]

Let's say if US now is actively seeking to mend ties with China, EU will follow in an eye blink, same will happen in Japan. today's EU's low point relationship with China is only due to US, do you agree?

I agree. The US is the top dog. However extremely unlikely that Washington and Beijing mend ties. Too many differences. I think once Russia is finished China will be next. There is no place for another elephant in the room.

 

[beijingwalker]

I agree. The US is the top dog. However extremely unlikely that Washington and Beijing mend ties. Too many differences.

Nixon came to China secretly and it's a shock to the world, he didn't even bother to tell its so called allies, after being caught by surprise all western countries plus Japan scrambled to establish ties with China. The situation today remains the same, EU and Japan can have some diplomatic freedom on some small matters, but on major global events, they have to follow US guidence.

 

[Indos]

Europe can expect additional LNG cargoes from Indonesia through its Tangguh Train 3 project that will be completed in first semester of 2023 to anticipate China economy back to normality in that year.

Tangguh Train 3 project is LNG project and some of the LNG cargoes will be exported to Japan while the majority of LNG cargo is for our state owned utility company, PT PLN under long term contract. PT PLN that provide electricity to our household and industry is in surplus electricity right now, they can potentially resell their LNG cargoes to Europe for several years.

PT PLN should instead uses our natural gas which is cheaper when the gas pipe line is completed with the gas coming from several of our new gas projects in Java sea.

Win Win

 

[Viet]

Nixon came to China secretly and it's a shock to the world, he didn't even bother to tell its so called allies, after being caught by surprise all western countries plus Japan scrambled to establish ties with China. The situation today remains the same, EU and Japan can have some diplomatic freedom on some small matters, but on major global events, they have to follow US guidence.

That’s different scenario. Nixon sought allies. He prepared the ground for the US withdrawal from Vietnam. He wanted China to fight USSR. China by then was poor and backward. You were not a threat as you are today.

 

[beijingwalker]

That’s different scenario. Nixon sought allies. He prepared the ground for the US withdrawal from Vietnam. He wanted China to fight USSR.

I m not talking about why he did it, I m giving an example to show how US, EU and Japan relationship works.

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

I agree. The US is the top dog. However extremely unlikely that Washington and Beijing mend ties. Too many differences. I think once Russia is finished China will be next. There is no place for another elephant in the room.

America has a quarter of China's population. America isn't close to being top dog unless America's population reaches 1 billion.

 

[Type59]

I knew China would re-export Russian gas.

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

Basically, Germany is going to be China's poodle come this winter. Russia sells gas to China cheap. China sells gas to Germany expensive.

 

[Viet]

America has a quarter of China's population. America isn't close to being top dog unless America's population reaches 1 billion.

If you add population that under US influence or control then the billion mark is easily crossed. the EU alone has 450 million people. Then you add Japan, Korea, Taiwan. Philippines, Australia and hundreds countries more.
China is just a gnome in comparison.

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

If you add population that under US influence or control then the billion mark is easily crossed. the EU alone has 450 million people. Then you add Japan, Korea, Taiwan. Philippines, Australia and hundreds countries more.
China is just a gnome in comparison.

China + Russia + Argentina + Brazil + India + Pakistan + Venezuela + South Korea + Iran + Egypt + South Africa ain't too shabby either. At the end of the day, education level matter far more than population.

Yes Russia has gas but stupid people. EU has no gas but technology and high IQ. Where do you want to live if you have to pick a choice?

Reported to the mods for racism.

Yes Russia has gas but stupid people. EU has no gas but technology and high IQ. Where do you want to live if you have to pick a choice?

I'd rather live in Russia than in EU. In Russia there is socialism and life is laid back with no stress. In EU there is no socialism and life is stressful.

 

[Beast]

Yes do it keep the gas to yourself
You can mix gas into your breakfast.

Talk only, you are kneeling and begging China for Gas when you type those nonsense.

 

[beijingwalker]

If you add population that under US influence or control then the billion mark is easily crossed. the EU alone has 450 million people. Then you add Japan, Korea, Taiwan. Philippines, Australia and hundreds countries more.
China is just a gnome in comparison.

Is this something to be bragged about..

 

[Viet]

Is this something to be bragged about..

The more allies the better. US without allies is nothing. Where US aircraft carriers can dock in Asia without Japan, Korea, Singapore, Australia? Ukraine without 50 supporters is nothing. China has no ally. You are just a gnome.