China Space Military：Recon, Satcom, Navi, ASAT/BMD, Orbital Vehicle, SLV, etc.

[longlong]

Let imagine the case this way

even this way, it's hard to tell

Do you know who is this fellow?

Even in detail, you have no idea who is him.

and, do you get who is this?

In most case, identification is based on a good enough database containing the unique properties of the objects.

come back to your case,

We don't know who they are, at least we can get below information: 1) They are human 2)They are civilians

These two information are enough for a military action to avoid from.

 

[BoQ77]

and, do you get who is this?

In most case, identification is based on a good enough database containing the unique properties of the objects.

come back to your case,

We don't know who they are, at least we can get below information: 1) They are human 2)They are civilians

These two information are enough for a military action to avoid from.

Let answer your first question. If you have the right answer...
The second picture, you are wrong in conclusion.

 

[Zhu Rong Zheng Yang]

All those posters who insist that F-22 was not detected -- have intentionally erased 4 keywords.
The keywords are = >> INTERCEPTED and physically IDENTIFIED <<.
F-22a were intercepted and physically identified by J-10A twice once in Feb 2015, and once in Feb 2016. period

Apparently, Pentagon and LockMart think they have solved the first Feb 2015 interception by applying the latest and greatest RAM coating from US National Lab to those F-22 who just flew in from Alaska.
Yet, they the Pentagon and LockMart have failed again in front of PLA Radar in the 2nd Feb 2016 interception.

US can only bully weak nation. Against, Russia and China, these US bullying tactics just exploded in US face.
Day by day, more and more sanely people realize that the world has been living under the overhyped and overrated US military might and being afraid of US military might for too long.

Sooner or later, more and more Vietnamese and neocon Japanese will wake up from their nightmares and realize that they have been banking their hope on the declining and decaying old empire.

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One more time, let me repeat ... ...
A group of four F-22s were intercepted and physically identified by J-10A twice, --- 1st time in Feb 2015, and the 2nd time in Feb 2016.
Enough said.

 

[BoQ77]

All those posters who insist that F-22 was not detected -- have intentionally erased 4 keywords.
The keywords are = >> INTERCEPTED and physically IDENTIFIED <<.
F-22a were intercepted and physically identified by J-10A twice once in Feb 2015, and once in Feb 2016. period
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One more time, let me repeat ... ...
A group of four F-22s were intercepted and physically identified by J-10A twice, --- 1st time in Feb 2015, and the 2nd time in Feb 2016.
Enough said.

Persuade us that's not pulled out from your dream, please !!!

 

[randomradio]

One more time, let me repeat ... ...
A group of four F-22s were intercepted and physically identified by J-10A twice, --- 1st time in Feb 2015, and the 2nd time in Feb 2016.
Enough said.

It doesn't mean anything. Those F-22s were supposed to be found. If the F-22s were stealthy, then how would you know there are F-22s around?

You will only know patrols are being conducted when you find the patrols.

 

[Ewok6102]

It doesn't mean anything. Those F-22s were supposed to be found. If the F-22s were stealthy, then how would you know there are F-22s around?

Nothing beats a F-22 in its best stealth configuration, which is when it is hidden inside its hangar. It is called "the hangar queen" for a reason.

 

[Zhu Rong Zheng Yang]

For those F-22 fanbois and Political Prostitutes and Slaves of US, please bear in mind that ... ...

1) The undeniable facts about F-22 ( the global famous Hangar Queen / Flying Coffin ) maintenance is that ... ...
For every single hour that F-22 flies in the air, the overhyped and overrated F-22 require at minimum 8 hours of downtime for RAM recoating and maintenances.

That is the real TRUTH -- that is the major reason -- why Robert Gates discontinue the LockMart F-22 production and stop at 187 aircraft.
All non--dimwitted Americans shall thanks Robert Gates and Obama for stop wasting hard earned American taxpayers money. ~ If Pentagon makes all 187 F-22 fully combat ready, and allow all 187 to fly in the air, then Pentagon needs at minimum 2 Trillion USD per annum for its defense budget. ~ And, this is very conservative estimate.

How can Pentagon competes with PLA in terms of war of Defense Budget attrition ??
And now it has been 2 years in row, the supposed to be invincible God given F-22 ... ...were tracked and intercepted twice by China J-10As.
I can feel your pain F-22 fanbois. I totally understand when all of you are so, so, so frustrated, and your hatred towards China have been going higher and higher skyward.


Off topic -- NOTES:

Those Vietnamese who have migrated to the evil Dajjal empire side, ... ...it is NOT too late to cease to be the Political Prostitutes and Slaves of US empire. ~ Let's move back to the Noble and Righteous side and work towards long term common economic prosperity with PRC.

 

[randomradio]

For every single hour that F-22 flies in the air, the overhyped and overrated F-22 require at minimum 8 hours of downtime for RAM recoating and maintenances.

That's really good. In comparison, the Su-30's maintenance man-hours is 32 hours for every hour of flight.

More realistically, the F-22 does worse.
F-22 Raptor retrofit to take longer, but availability hits 63%

On RAMMP, the air force says the Raptor availability improved by 3% since the last report and the average number of “maintenance man-hours per flight hour” has dropped by 10.1% from 46.6h in 2012 to 41.9h in 2014.

Must have improved since then.

 

[Zhu Rong Zheng Yang]

Sorry Off Topic ... ...

Well in 2013, an PLAAF expert explained that China Su-30MKK only requires 1 hour of maintenance for 5 hours of flying. ~~ OTOH, China J-11B requires only 1 hour of maintenance for 12 hours of flying.

It is extremely hard to believe Indian Su-30MKI requires 160 hours of maintenance for 5 hours of flying.
It can not be that bad. ~ What are the reasons given that Indian Su-30MKI requires 320 hours of maintenance for 10 hours of flying ??

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Now almost 6 years ago, in June 2010 ... ...

1) Installing China own Homegrown engine blades
ChengDu PLAAF Engines Maintenance Depot in the June 2010

2) Inspecting and Searching for Internal Cracks inside the AL-31F engine
ChengDu PLAAF Engines Maintenance Depot in the June 2010

 

[randomradio]

Sorry Off Topic ... ...

Well in 2013, an PLAAF expert explained that China Su-30MKK only requires 1 hour of maintenance for 5 hours of flying. ~~ OTOH, China J-11B requires only 1 hour of maintenance for 12 hours of flying.

It is extremely hard to believe Indian Su-30MKI requires 160 hours of maintenance for 5 hours of flying.
It can not be that bad. ~ What are the reasons given that Indian Su-30MKI requires 320 hours of maintenance for 10 hours of flying ??

Nice propaganda. Even Gripen C needs 10 hours for every hour of flight.

Of course, Chinese science.

 

[gambit]

This is why CDF went TU.

 

[JSCh]

China plans to launch first micro-gravity satellite in April
By Gao Yinan (People's Daily Online) 13:57, February 26, 2016

“Shijian-10” (Screenshot/CCTV)​

China's first micro-gravity experimental satellite is scheduled to be launched in April of this year. The Shijian-10 satellite has arrived at Jiuquan Satellite Launch Center in northwest China's Gansu province on Wednesday, ahead of its scheduled launch in April.

The Shijian-10 is the first micro-gravity experimental satellite in China designed for conducting scientific experiments in space, says Li Chunhua, deputy chief designer of the Shijian-10.

It will perform a total of 19 experiments involving micro-gravity, micro-gravity combustion, space material, space radiation effects and space biotechnology during its 15-day mission.

At present, scientists all over the world are working on facilities to create micro-gravity conditions, such as parabolic aircraft, sounding rockets and other experimental platforms, which can provide a micro-gravity environment for a few minutes or less. But for longer studies, a satellite like Shijian-10 is a must.

The Shijian-10 is different from ordinary satellites in that it is returnable. After completing its mission, it will return with the results. Chinese technology is relatively mature in the area of returnable remote sensing satellites. The country has successfully launched and recovered 24 satellites.

The Shijian-10 has unique shape, similar to that of a bullet. In the launching process, it does not require payload fairing because the satellite itself takes on that protective role. Due to its short flight time, the satellite is equipped with chemical batteries instead of solar panels.

 

[JSCh]

China to launch retrievable Shijian-10 space science probe in April | gbtimes.com
Andrew Jones
2016/02/26

China's Shijian-10 retrievable experimental satellite. (Photo: Framegrab/CCTV)​

China will soon launch its retrievable Shijian-10 satellite to carry out research in microgravity and space life science to provide scientific support for the country’s human space missions.

On Wednesday the Shijian-10 spacecraft was delivered to the Jiuquan Satellite Launch Centre in Gansu Province in the Gobi Desert, where it will undergo tests and be stacked on a Long March 2D rocket for launch in April.

As part of a growing program of space science research, Shijian-10 is China's first microgravity experimental satellite and will spend 15 days in space before returning to Earth with results for analysis.

Shijing-10 returning to earth (CCTV framegrab)​

The National Space Science Centre (NSSC) in Beijing under the Chinese Academy of Sciences (CAS) states the satellite will carry out 19 experiments in a range of fields during its brief time in orbit.

These include microgravity fluid physics, microgravity combustion, space material science, space radiation, the effects of microgravity on biological processes, and space biotechnology.

The project has been jointly developed by 11 institutes of CAS, together with six Chinese universities, the European Space Agency (ESA) and the Japan Aerospace Exploration Agency (JAXA).

The Soret Coefficient in Crude Oil (SCCO) experiment, created through collaboration between ESA, the NSSC, France’s Total oil company and PetroChina of China, aims investigate the behaviour of oil under high pressure to increase understanding of crude oil reservoirs kilometres underground.

https://twitter.com/x/status/543401739060514816

Scientific payloads
The on-board experiments were selected from 200 applications.

According to an NSSC paper (pdf), the life science experiments include investigation into the development of mouse early embryos in space, and roles of space radiation on genomic DNA and its genetic effects.

Physical experiments include investigation of the coal combustion and pollutant formation under microgravity, crystal growth in space, ignition and burning of solid materials in microgravity, and the above crude oil experiment.

People’s Daily writes that scientists all over the world are working on facilities to create microgravity conditions, such as parabolic aircraft, sounding rockets and other experimental platforms, but longer studies require a satellite like Shijian-10.

Launch and return
Shijian-10 will launch on a Long March 2D rocket from the Jiuquan centre and return to Earth two weeks later.

Due to the design and retrievable nature of Shijian-10, the launch will not need to include a protective payload fairing. The short mission time means the satellite is equipped with chemical batteries instead of solar panels.

According to Go-Taikonauts!, which produces periodic reports on the Chinese space program, Shijian-10 will land at Siziwang Banner in Inner Mongolia, the designated landing spot for China’s Shenzhou human spaceflight missions and a 2014 lunar sample return test mission.

All of China’s previous 24 recoverable satellites have been successfully recovered in the southwestern province of Sichuan.

Above: Shenzhou-10, China's most recent crewed mission, lands at Siziwang Banner on June 26, 2013.

Space science ambitions
Shijian-10 comes after the launch of China’s first dark matter probe, Wukong ( or 'DAMPE'), in December and will be followed later in 2016 by the Hard X-ray Modulation Telescope (HXMT) and the QUantum Experiments at Space Scale (QUESS) - the world’s first space mission focussing on quantum entanglement.

This batch of Chinese missions will be followed in coming years by projects outlined in a long-term vision for space science research, which has been created by the NSSC after consultations with the Chinese space community.

Future missions entering the engineering phase this year include a space-weather observatory mission (SMILE) in collaboration with ESA, a global water cycle observation mission (WCOM), and the Einstein Probe (EP), which will survey large portions of the universe for various phenomena, including the electromagnetic wave counterparts of gravitational wave events.

 

[JSCh]

China Focus: China to launch second space lab Tiangong-2 in Q3
Source: Xinhua | 2016-02-28 11:03:47 | Editor: huaxia

BEIJING, Feb. 28 (Xinhua) -- China will send its second orbiting space lab Tiangong-2 into space in the third quarter of this year, which is expected to dock with a cargo ship scheduled to be launched in the first half of next year, sources from the manned space program said Sunday.

As part of the country's space lab program, China also plans to launch the Shenzhou-11 spacecraft, which will carry two astronauts on board, in the fourth quarter of this year to dock with Tiangong-2, according to the program's spokesperson.

After its first test flight in the Wenchang satellite launch center in south China's Hainan Province, a next-generation Long March-7 rocket will put the country's first cargo ship Tianzhou-1, which literally means "heavenly vessel," into space in the first half of 2017 to dock with Tiangong-2 and conduct experiments.

During the process, China will verify key technologies including cargo transportation, on-orbit propellant resupply, astronauts' medium-term stay, as well as conduct space science and application experiments on a relatively large scale, the spokesperson said.

Preparation for the space lab program is progressing steadily, according to the spokesperson.

The astronauts to board the Shenzhou-11 are receiving training, while the Tiangong-2, Shenzhou-11, two Long March-2F carrier rockets to be used to lift them into space, the Long March-7 rocket, and the Tianzhou-1 are either being assembled or undergoing assembly examination.

China's multi-billion-dollar space program, a source of surging national pride in the country, aims to put a permanent manned space station into service around 2022.

By around 2020, the construction of the country's first orbiting space station should be completed, according to the spokesperson.

The space station is expected to consist of three parts -- a core module attached to two labs, each weighing about 20 tonnes.

China already launched its first space lab, Tiangong-1, in September 2011 and has conducted two dockings with the module in the following two years.

The Tiangong-1 has been in service for four years and a half and is in good working condition, which enables it to remain in orbit for continued operation, the spokesperson said.

File photo captures Tiangong-1, China's first space lab. It was launched on Sept 29, 2011. (Photo / IC)

Photo showing Chinese Taikonaut training for the upcoming ShenZhou-11 manned mission to Tiangong-2 space lab.​

 

[onebyone]

China presses ahead with space ambitions

China announced Sunday it was sending its second space lab into orbit later this year, followed by a manned spacecraft that will dock with it.

Tiangong-2, or "Heavenly Palace-2," will be the second Chinese space lab deployed above earth in five years.

If the launch is successful, the Shenzhou-11 spacecraft will go up with two astronauts on board and try to connect with Tiangong-2 while in orbit, a statement from the office of the China Manned Space Program said.

CNN's rare access inside China's space program. 02:37
But before that, the country will test launch the Long March 7, a rocket it's developing to carry a cargo spacecraft to the Tiangong-2 in early 2017.

"Long March 7 is the newest rocket developed for our manned space program," the statement said.

"It will be the baseline model for the latest generation of our medium-sized rocket. Its launch will greatly improve China's capability in entering and returning from space."

China: The next space superpower?



A greater goal


All these experiments play into China's greater goal to build its very own space station around the year 2020.

CNN gains exclusive access to China's space city. 03:59
The Tiangong-2, and its predecessor Tiangong-1, are prototypes for a space station.

Read: Why China's space program stands out

The statement on Sunday said the space station project was moving ahead as planned.

China's first spacelab, the Tiangong-1, went into orbit in September 2011. An unmanned spacecraft successful docked with it a few weeks later, and manned spacecraft docked in 2012 and 2013.

Read: Chinese astronaut calls for cooperation

China had a lot of catching up to do when it first got into the space race.

China's rise into outer orbit01:57
It didn't send its first satellite into space until 1970 -- 11 years after the U.S. put the first man on the moon. But over the last four decades, China has pumped enormous amounts of money and resources into research and training. It sent its first astronaut into space in October 2003.

Since then, 10 more Chinese astronauts have gone into orbit.

CNN's Steven Jiang in Beijing contributed to this report
China presses ahead with space ambitions - CNN.com