China seeks military bases in Pakistan

[Zarvan]

Bases in FATA of China will be a complete Disaster Tribals even don't tolerate Pakistani Forces in their Area and if China comes it will result in death of most Chinees Soldiers and also increase in hate red against Chinees in Tribal and Religious Section and that will result in more and more people trying to enter China and attack there

 

[SBD-3]

I said it before and I am saying it again, its more to do with the strategic reach. US has a lot of military basis in Korea, Japan, Germany, Turkey and some other countries as well, will it be considered as a violation of their sovereignity. having a diversified presence would mean that Just in case if military basis in China are under some music Chinese would have one operational one in Pakistan, enhanced their survivability and lehality indirectly, I hoestly think China Pakistan should have a limited militray presence in eachother as it significantly complicates adversary's militray doctrine. I would recomend some junior members to not to buy Indian Bullcrap of "sovereignity hurt" s**t and rather look it in a broader prospective of militray theature.

 

[monitor]

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While Pakistan wants China to build a naval base at its southwestern seaport of Gwadar in Balochistan province, Beijing is more interested in setting up military bases either in the Federally Administered Tribal Areas (FATA) of Pakistan or in the Federally Administered Northern Areas (FANA) that border Xinjiang province.

The Chinese desire is meant to contain growing terrorist activities of Chinese rebels belonging to the al-Qaeda-linked East




Turkestan Islamic Movement (ETIM) that is also described as the Turkistani Islamic Party (TIP).

The Chinese Muslim rebels want the creation of an independent Islamic state and are allegedly being trained in the tribal areas of Pakistan. According to well-placed diplomatic circles in Islamabad, Beijing's wish for a military presence in Pakistan was discussed at length by the political and military leadership of both countries in recent months as China (which views the Uyghur separatist sentiment as a dire threat) has become ever-more concerned about Pakistan's tribal areas as a haven for radicals.

Beijing believes that similar to the United States military presence in Pakistan, a Chinese attendance would enable its military to effectively counter the Muslim separatists who have been operating from the tribal areas of Pakistan for almost a decade, carrying out cross-border terrorist activities in trouble-stricken Xinjiang province.

So China is not confident that Pakistan can or will wipe our the separatist movement based in tribal area ?

 

[Awesome]

Put one in Miranshah and one in Muridke.

 

[SQ8]

Put one in Miranshah and one in Muridke.

Let them open a small China town in Muridke.

 

[cloneman]

Spokeman of Chinese Defence Ministry:No military bsae plan in Pakistan.
The points:China and Pakistan have cooperations in various fields,the cooperation is not towards the third part,there's no plan to seek military base in Pakistan which the news is the jounist's cooked-up.
国防部:中国寻求在巴基斯坦建军事基地纯属炒作
国际在线消息 (记者张一夫、李&#34074：中国国防部新闻发言人杨宇军26日回应了记者关于中国寻求在巴基斯坦建立海外军事基地一事的提问，表示这纯属媒体炒作。

　　会上有记者提问：“近日，多家外电报道，中国寻求在巴基斯坦建立海外军事基地，报道援引伊斯兰堡消息人士的说法，巴方希望中国在靠近瓜达尔港附 近建海军基地，而中国更希望寻求在巴靠近新疆的北部区域建军事基地，以便进行反恐和保卫边疆。报道还称，中巴两国已经就此问题进行了相当长时间的接触。请 问对此有何评论？”

　　杨宇军表示，中巴(基斯&#22374两国长期以来在各领域开展了广泛合作，致力于互利共盈，中巴之间的合作不针对任何第三方。至于你所提到的情况，纯属媒体的炒作。
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[nodda21]

There is this guy named Bob in the US who agrees with this. He hates the US with his friend Chris.

 

[fakein]

Only the stupid believe such stupid articles.
If China seeks military base in Pakistan bordering Xinjiang, then one in Aksai Chin would be equally effective, if not better.
So what's the intention of such effort to fabricate an article based on such non reliable sources? Propaganda.

 

[sreekimpact]

China Wants {Bases} an Endless War in Pakistan

By Spencer Ackerman October 26, 2011 | 3:11 pm |


Washington just got a golden opportunity to end its decade-long excursion into central Asia and deplete the power of its Pacific rival/banker, all in one fell swoop. The Chinese are seeking bases in the tribal regions of Pakistan, precisely where the U.S. fights its drone war.

The plugged-in Asia Times Online reports that China wants to set up military hubs in Khyber-Pukhtunkhwa, formerly known as the Northwest Frontier Province. China’s reasoning will sound familiar to American ears: That’s where anti-Chinese terrorists operate. Khyber-Pukhtunkhwa abuts the restive, non-Han Chinese province of Xinjiang, home to ethnic Uighur separatists. With the People’s Liberation Army getting a foothold in tribal Pakistan, the Chinese reason, it can crush separatism, and make sure that terrorist factions can’t hide out across the border.

This is usually when Pakistan expects the U.S. to freak out over the spread of Chinese power and draw a line in the sand. When the Pakistanis threw a fit over the bin Laden raid, they publicly flirted with letting the Chinese see the wreckage of a secret U.S. stealth helicopter. They hug China close during periodic flare-ups with Washington, pointedly dubbing Beijing an “all-weather friend.”

The Asia Times Online story smells like a calculated Islamabad leak, especially since it comes on the heels of last week’s demand by Secretary of State that Pakistan cut off its terrorist proxies in the Haqqani Network. And since the Pakistanis want China to build a naval base on its territory, the Chinese even have leverage to move into the tribal areas. You can expect some thumbsucking think-tank type to lament the decline of American power any minute now.

But if the Chinese really are headed to tribal Pakistan, then — as Chris Partlow once said to Marlo Stanfield on The Wire — this is one of those good problems.


Fighting for a decade in central Asia has a way of obscuring something basic. The center of that war lies in tribal Pakistan, which is battered by U.S. drone strikes, but the U.S. has fought an exhausting war in the larger area that it’s finding difficult to satisfactorily conclude. That gives the Pakistanis a huge amount of leverage to get U.S. aid — and, accordingly, a disincentive to actually fighting terrorism, lest the aid stop when the mission concludes.

This Central Asian preoccupation — 10 years of war that has cost the U.S. hundreds of billions — has redounded decisively to China’s advantage. The U.S. funded its central Asian wars not buy raising taxes, but by borrowing money from China, and it’s only now turning to the problem of how to reduce its crippling debt. Meanwhile, China, the world’s second largest economy, is ever more assertive in the Pacific, and is modernizing its military with its first stealth jet and anti-ship missile. (Although the U.S. is way more militarily powerful.)

Taken together, all this has U.S. policymakers declaring America’s long excursion in the Mideast and South Asia to be a distraction worth concluding in order to refocus on the vital Asia-Pacific region.

And here come the Chinese, ready to take on two birds with one stone.

Think about it. The Chinese entangle themselves in a region where the U.S. found itself exhausted in an inconclusive effort. Since it’s China’s backyard, the domestic and internal military pressures to keep fighting there will likely be great. China can batter the residual terrorist presence in tribal Pakistan — its brutal Army will kill U.S. enemies as well as its own, if history is any indication — and also experience the pleasures of dealing with Islamabad, selling it weapons, and being responsible for Pakistani security. Surely Beijing will enjoy an intransigent ally that rejects its advice while keeping its money. And if China really wants a larger role in global affairs, tribal Pakistan is the most advantageous place for the U.S. to pass the baton.

And since Pakistan often says it wants the U.S. to leave it alone, let’s see how it enjoys taking yes for an answer, and losing its American aid. The U.S. can still launch drone strikes into Pakistan as insurance — as it keeps for itself drone launchpads like Jalalabad or Kandahar during and after the Afghanistan troop withdrawals. Surely the Chinese will be generous patrons, since they’re rich and they like funding infrastructure.

Meanwhile the U.S. can draw closer with India — the subcontinent’s economic, technological and military superpower, which both Pakistan and China distrust — and its Southeast Asian friends like South Korea, Japan, Thailand, Singapore and increasingly Vietnam. The U.S. doesn’t even have to wage a cold war with China. It just needs to let the Chinese have the bases it says it wants in an armpit of the globe, covering our withdrawal from it.

Speaking of that cold war, there are many, many people in the U.S., China and Pakistan that want to see it proceed, whether out of paranoia or shortsightedness. From Washington’s perspective, a China-Pakistani alliance is a godsend, allowing the U.S. to cease its expensive, bloody Great Game in South Asia and letting a new player compete for a dubious prize. In the words of The Wire’s other great strategist, Marla Daniels: You cannot lose if you refuse to play.

 

[lem34]

I think that if china and paksitan wanted china to have bases in pakistan they would just get on with it and do it. the first we would hear would be feet on the ground. I think these articles from westerners show their insecurity and worry about china flexing its muscle. I mean what would be so wrong if america needs bases in middle east miles away from america what would be wrong with china haveing a few bases in countries that are friendly near its borders whats the big deal. a base in bangladesh, srilanka and pakistan why not if it suits the host country?

 

[Hafizzz]

Another bullshit crap article.......series of blam games....India is saying that Chinese Miltary already exists in Pakistani side Kashmir...........but nobody is going to buy this bullshit crap.

here is the truth about the propaganda :

http://www.defence.pk/forums/china-...akistan-even-3-year-old-kid-wont-believe.html

 

[Devil Soul]

China not seeking mily bases in Pakistan: FO
China not seeking mily bases in Pakistan: FO
Published: October 28, 2011
ISLAMABAD (Agencies) - Extending its diplomatic and moral support for the cause of Kashmiri people, Pakistan said on Thursday that it was committed to supporting the Kashmiris’ right to self-determination.
Foreign Office spokesperson Tehmina Janjua, in her weekly press briefing said: “Pakistan continues to discuss Kashmir issue with India at every possible occasion and it figured in resumed dialogue process between the two countries.” She said the Kashmir issue was also discussed during the last meeting of the foreign ministers of Pakistan and India and it will remain on the agenda in talks with India. The spokesperson said Pakistan’s policy is Kashmir is very clear and the issue was raised at all the important international fora. She said: “We would also like to express complete solidarity with the Kashmiri people as they mark today, October 27, the Black Day.”
Replying to a question, she said Pakistan evaluates recent visit of US Secretary of State to Islamabad positively.
“It was useful and constructive as it allowed opportunity for in depth discussions leading to broad convergence of views at the strategic level,” she added. The spokesperson said there is a complex situation in the region requiring clarity of purpose, objectivity and firm determination and that is what the two countries are aiming to look at. She said President Asif Ali Zardari will hold talks with Afghan and Turkish leaders on the eve of a long-awaited conference on Afghanistan in Istanbul.
Afghan President Hamid Karzai and Turkish President Abullah Gul will also attend the meeting on Saturday, Janjua told reporters. The agenda will include peace, stability and reconciliation in Afghanistan and economic cooperation for Afghanistan, she said. “Pakistan strongly supports these areas” and will continue to “contribute constructively to all endeavours and initiatives in this regard,” she said. Turkey hosts a regional conference on Afghanistan on November 2 in Istanbul, which Foreign Minister Hina Rabbani Khar will attend.
“Pakistan supports efforts for a secure, peaceful and prosperous Afghanistan contributing to stability, security and prosperity in the region,” Janjua said.
“It is important that unity of purpose and the region’s support for Afghanistan must be ensured through consensus decision making.”
On reports published in a section of press that China was seeking military bases in Pakistan, the spokesperson rejecting these reports said this was rubbish and mere fabrication.
She said President Zardari and Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gilani have sent messages to the Turkish leadership expressing sympathy and solidarity with the Turkish people on the loss of lives and damage to property caused by the earthquake in the Turkish eastern province of Van.
She said Pakistan’s embassy in Libya is in touch with Pakistani community leaders to know the kind of support needed by them in the current situation.
The spokesperson said, the Prime Minister has sent a message of solidarity for people of Thailand over flooding there.
She said Pakistan’s embassy in Bangkok is in contact with Pakistanis in Thailand to know if they wanted any assistance including repatriation from affected areas.
Janjua said Prime Minister Gilani has sent a message to Prime Minister Yingluck Shinwatra of Thailand expressing support and solidarity with the government and people of Thailand facing unprecedented floods.
China not seeking mily bases in Pakistan: FO | Pakistan | News | Newspaper | Daily | English | Online

 

[HavocHeaven]

I very much doubt the veracity of the story. China has a long standing policy of NOT establishing military bases on foreign soil.

The journalist does not know the basic principle of China foreign policy: No alignment, no intervention and no garrison. If China did seek to get a military base in Pakistan, that would be a very sharp turn in China foreign policy. As a Chinese citizen, I am stongly against any attempts of our government to build military base in ohter countries. No excuse at all.

 

[lem34]

with your ideas. pls advice, why do you have to fight for independence ?

well America has bases in UK. I dont see any harm in countries in the neighbourhood being freindly and if it suits having bases. Our militaries can cooperate. If matters are resolve with india which i hope will be i dont see aproblem in chinese bases in india or vice verca. We shouldnt look at each other constantly as enemies in a 100 years they will wonder what the prob was. look at how freindly germans and french are when 70 years ago they were killing each other

 

[ashokdeiva]

well America has bases in UK. I dont see any harm in countries in the neighbourhood being freindly and if it suits having bases. Our militaries can cooperate. If matters are resolve with india which i hope will be i dont see aproblem in chinese bases in india or vice verca. We shouldnt look at each other constantly as enemies in a 100 years they will wonder what the prob was. look at how freindly germans and french are when 70 years ago they were killing each other

Brother, to my view, this is the last thing that Chinese will ask for. Its not in good interest for the Chinese to have a base in forign soil or its in good interest of Pakistan to allow a forign legion to get stationed in Pakistans soil. The best way to co-operate is to establish a joint armed forces command and start increasing security against any element that falls out of any government in South Asia,
For example lets all join forces in south asia with a command center in bejing or islamabad or new delhi which ever place is stategically suited for counter terrorism co-operation, fight against somali see pirates, etc