China says no to Moscow, Beijing, Delhi trilateral defence ties

[StraightShooter]

China says no to Moscow, Beijing, Delhi trilateral defence ties

BY PRANAB DHAL SAMANTA, ET BUREAU | APR 11, 2017, 01.22 AM IST

The trilateral meeting was to take place on April 25, a day ahead of the Moscow Conference on International Security.
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NEW DELHI: China has turned down a Russian effort to bring defence ministers of India, Russia and China on one platform in Moscow, fuelling speculation in New Delhi that this has been done keeping Pakistan sensitivities in mind.

The refusal was officially communicated last week, which was also the time the Dalai Lama's visit to Arunachal Pradesh took off despite strong Chinese protests.

The trilateral meeting was to take place on April 25, a day ahead of the Moscow Conference on International Security. Defence minister Arun Jaitley is scheduled to visit the security meet. Russia was keen that as a strategic outreach the defence ministers of the three countries should do a trilateral to explore an architecture of security cooperation.

India agreed after examining the proposal in great detail, particularly keeping in mind Russia's strong ownership of the idea. However, Moscow later conveyed to New Delhi that Beijing has regretted from participating in the initiative. While no specific reason was given, the speculation is that China did not want to signal that it was in anyway trying to undermine its special defence relationship with Pakistan by entering into an arrangement with Russia and India.

Beijing has so far not conveyed any direct message to India on this subject. The Russian diplomatic rationale flows from the fact that there already exists a RIC (Russia-India-China) forum among the foreign ministers.

In that context, officials told ET, Russia thought it to be a logical extension in trying to construct a security matrix outside US-led mechanisms.

India is already part of many US-led strategic trilateral forums. The more robust examples are US-India-Japan and US-India-Australia, which also have proved to be effective avenues for military cooperation. The trilateral with US and Japan includes a regular conversation on China and its impact on maritime security in the Indian Ocean and the South China Sea.

China had lodged a strong diplomatic protest when US at one point had sought to first form a quadrilateral with India, Japan and Australia. India, it may be noted, has been upset with China blocking Indian membership to the Nuclear Suppliers Group and literally vetoing efforts at the United Nations to blacklist Jaish-e-Mohammed chief Masood Azhar.

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com...lateral-defence-ties/articleshow/58118212.cms

 

[Mo12]

Guess with China ties strengthening somewhat with USA.

China wont mind if India ties expand with USA, because so will China and USA.

Hence it can reject this.

 

[StraightShooter]

Guess with China ties strengthening somewhat with USA.

China wont mind if India ties expand with USA, because so will China and USA.

Hence it can reject this.

US and China are part of G2.

China will not align with Russia.

 

[Kiss_of_the_Dragon]

Trilateral defence ties against whom...US or Pakistan? I don't think India neither gonna appreciate if there is an trilateral defence ties between China,Russia and Pakistan.

 

[Śakra]

Makes no sense all 3 countries dislike each other.

 

[Kiss_of_the_Dragon]

US and China are part of G2.

China will not align with Russia.

China /US G2 is about economy, China/Russia G2 is about defense...and China/India = G1 because China have trade surplus with India.

Makes no sense all 3 countries dislike each other.

You never know the future, when all three face the common threat...maybe we will join hands one day...there is no permanent friend nor enemy only permanent interest...I guess every child know this by heart.

 

[StraightShooter]

China will back stab Russia at an opportune time.

China started SCO to counter Russia's CSTO.

After swallowing Tibet and East Turkestan, China now has its eyes set on Mongolia, Russian Far East and Central Asian Republics.

China /US G2 is about economy, China/Russia G2 is about defense...and China/India = G1 because China have trade surplus with India.

China says the same about CPEC too while putting the boots on the ground and docking the subs in Gwadar.

Indians are not blind to see and do understand what is happening.

 

[Ulysses]

We humans can finally move forward in the Human evolution of progress if we can reach peace with China once and for all.

 

[Śakra]

You never know the future, when all three face the common threat...maybe we will join hands one day...there is no permanent friend nor enemy only permanent interest...I guess every child know this by heart.

This is true.

 

[Kiss_of_the_Dragon]

China will back stab Russia at an opportune time.

China started SCO to counter Russia's CSTO.

After swallowing Tibet and East Turkestan, China now has its eyes set on Mongolia, Russian Far East and Central Asian Republics.

Why China need to back stab Russia when we're not longer the little brother liked Soviet wanted to believe, China is very comfortable with it current social economy situation and international prestige, we have 4 time Russia economy and 2nd economic power in the world. In contrary we seek opportunity to enhance a comprehensive pragmatic relation with Russia on which no-one can take advantage of other but build a equal and mutual interest.

Sure India can cry jealously over our strategic advantage of Tibet vis-à-vis India and Xinjiang connectivity to resource rich central Asia...we can understand the sorrow India government has shown for CPEC for it inability to do anything, but helplessly we can't do anything to comfort India but dance. You can always go ahead with your bullshit speculation but nothing prevent us from laughing at India.

 

[Luca1]

US and China are part of G2.

China will not align with Russia.

Any two countries can be G-2 by themselves.

 

[StraightShooter]

We humans can finally move forward in the Human evolution of progress if we can reach peace with China once and for all.

Absolutely.

It is very clear that the center of gravity is moving towards China and world is preparing to live under the sole leadership of China.

I have seen many intelligent Caucasians who have started to encourage their kids to learn Chinese.

This is where I admire the sagacity of Pakistan.

Pakistan has the knack of sensing the transfer of power. Prior to Independence they sided with the British instead of fighting against the British rule and then they sided with US after the Independence.

As soon as they sensed that the center of gravity is moving from US to China they have dumped the US and started to align with China.

Hats off to the Pakistan's foreign policy planners.

Any two countries can be G-2 by themselves.

Yes. Any two countries can form G2 but won't.

 

[Kiss_of_the_Dragon]

We humans can finally move forward in the Human evolution of progress if we can reach peace with China once and for all.

Since when China show provocative hostility toward US? the first day I accessed to internet I only saw US and western government's bashing bombardment over China...and it's far from over. US will never give up until US realize their interest of cooperation with China outweigh their interest of confrontation.

 

[StraightShooter]

Why China need to back stab Russia when we're not longer the little brother liked Soviet wanted to believe, China is very comfortable with it current social economy situation and international prestige, we have 4 time Russia economy and 2nd economic power in the world. In contrary we seek opportunity to enhance a comprehensive pragmatic relation with Russia on which no-one can take advantage of other but build a equal and mutual interest.

Sure India can cry jealously over our strategic advantage of Tibet vis-à-vis India and Xinjiang connectivity to resource rich central Asia...we can understand the sorrow India government has shown for CPEC for it inability to do anything, but helplessly we can't do anything to comfort India but dance. You can always go ahead with your bullshit speculation but nothing prevent us from laughing at India.

The only reason China is not back stabbing Russia yet is that Russia still has some edge when it comes to military power. But Chinese military is growing at an exponential pace and would overtake Russia in less than a decade.

Once China overtakes Russia militarily, China would back stab Russia and take control of Mongolia, Russian Far East and Central Asian Republics.

 

[Ulysses]

Since when China show provocative hostility toward US? the first day I accessed to internet I only saw US and western government's bashing bombardment over China...and it's far from over. US will never give up until US realize their interest of cooperation with China outweigh their interest of confrontation.

I agree that we are no saint... and the Technology age is defiantly bringing people more together then ever.

US needs China and China needs the US. The economic ties between us shall not fail and our leaders know it.

I feel it's only a matter of time where we all can come together and establish world peace already. It's 2017 for gods sakes and we still fighting over stupid shit.

Like I said we are no saint and China helps put us in place sometimes.