China’s J-10B Advanced Fighters To Pakistan Worries India

[LiberalAtheist]

the PAF has sufficient capability to defend its own skies for a couple of days in case of a conflict but in no way will it be able to carry deep strike missions deep inside Indian airspace the most likely scenario in war would be IAF strike fighters like Mirage and Jaguar accompanied by MKI or MiG-29 going into Pakistan airspace which makes it difficult for our side because not only do we have to deal with the PAF but also the threat from SAM's both MANPAD and mobile SAM's on tracked or wheeled platforms.

in the first few days PAF could hold its own but eventually numbers and qualitative superiority will bewilder the PAF into annihilation kind of like how the Pak navy was almost wiped out by the Indian navy in 1971. how a scenario of war is highly unlikely since MAD (mutally assured destruction) will cause hesitation to go to war.

 

[MastanKhan]

My point is this that what is the different between Pakistani polits and Indian Polits training standers....I mean who is best?? thanks

Hi,

With the current day technology, there is no such thing as who is t he best----. Indian pilots are extremely efficient at their jobs and specially when you are sitting in an aircraft like the su30----where each aircraft projects its force by 4 times that of the enemy's----your performance,efficiency and learning capabilities automatically goes up---because you are flying one of the world's top peforming aircrafts---.

Iaf has extremely stringent guidelines for its pilots and they are as good as any of the top air force pilots of the world---. The technology available in the frontline iaf aircraft is very advanced and once the pilot learn to operate the system---it automatically guides it through a lot of different steps which were done manually in the past---.

Iaf wants 240 su30's---120 on pak border---120 on china border---each su30 can carry 4 times the number of bvr's than an F16 or a JF17----su30's radar is almost twice as large as that of the F16 and jf17---and pretty much twice as strong----.

A chain is as strong as its weakest link---a pilot is as good as the aircraft that it is flying---so if each su30 is 4 times more power ful in weapons and twice as powerful in its radar----how big of an idiot do you think that an iaf pilot could be to be considered inferior to a paf pilot.

The su30 is the aircraft that the paf pilot is going to face in the begining of hostilities----. When a sortie of two jf17's are trying save their lives from 4 missiles locked on each one of them launched by a single su30 aircraft----what is your thinking of paf pilots capabilities.

 

[Pakistanisage]

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[LiberalAtheist]

Hi,

With the current day technology, there is no such thing as who is t he best----. Indian pilots are extremely efficient at their jobs and specially when you are sitting in an aircraft like the su30----where each aircraft projects its force by 4 times that of the enemy's----your performance,efficiency and learning capabilities automatically goes up---because you are flying one of the world's top peforming aircrafts---.

Iaf has extremely stringent guidelines for its pilots and they are as good as any of the top air force pilots of the world---. The technology available in the frontline iaf aircraft is very advanced and once the pilot learn to operate the system---it automatically guides it through a lot of different steps which were done manually in the past---.

Iaf wants 240 su30's---120 on pak border---120 on china border---each su30 can carry 4 times the number of bvr's than an F16 or a JF17----su30's radar is almost twice as large as that of the F16 and jf17---and pretty much twice as strong----.

A chain is as strong as its weakest link---a pilot is as good as the aircraft that it is flying---so if each su30 is 4 times more power ful in weapons and twice as powerful in its radar----how big of an idiot do you think that an iaf pilot could be to be considered inferior to a paf pilot.

The su30 is the aircraft that the paf pilot is going to face in the begining of hostilities----. When a sortie of two jf17's are trying save their lives from 4 missiles locked on each one of them launched by a single su30 aircraft----what is your thinking of paf pilots capabilities.

one of the few sensible posts by a Pakistani member i've seen regarding the IAF good see you guys aren't all ignorant/arrogant PAF has the advantage of early warning since the MKI is a elephant on radar nonetheless its role will be in air escort rather than strike.

 

[Bhairava]

Iaf wants 240 su30's---120 on pak border---120 on china border---

Its actually 270 MKIs...

It was 50 at the beginning, 140 under licence + 40 in 2007 (-2 that was lost) and the latest 42 "Super MKIs" that would give a total of 270.

 

[Pakistanisage]

the PAF has sufficient capability to defend its own skies for a couple of days in case of a conflict but in no way will it be able to carry deep strike missions deep inside Indian airspace the most likely scenario in war would be IAF strike fighters like Mirage and Jaguar accompanied by MKI or MiG-29 going into Pakistan airspace which makes it difficult for our side because not only do we have to deal with the PAF but also the threat from SAM's both MANPAD and mobile SAM's on tracked or wheeled platforms.

in the first few days PAF could hold its own but eventually numbers and qualitative superiority will bewilder the PAF into annihilation kind of like how the Pak navy was almost wiped out by the Indian navy in 1971. how a scenario of war is highly unlikely since MAD (mutally assured destruction) will cause hesitation to go to war.

So basically no worries for the mighty IAF, right ?

PAF aircrafts are Third Generation Junk and mighty IAF has it all sown up with BVR missiles. PAF is outclassed and outmatched against the Technologically superior Mighty IAF. So I am still waiting for the Indian Geniuses to explain why we hear these vitriolic and scathing statements by Indians each time PAF acquires a Squadron of Pathetic Third Generation fighter aircrafts. Please enlighten us.

BTW, Sardar Jee tussi still great ho , Sir Jee.

 

[illuminatidinesh]

one of the few sensible posts by a Pakistani member i've seen regarding the IAF good see you guys aren't all ignorant/arrogant PAF has the advantage of early warning since the MKI is a elephant on radar nonetheless its role will be in air escort rather than strike.

U can expect that from Mastan Always...... Don forget to give capabilities of the PAF and its F-16 ..... We may go on to have air superiority eventually in case of war but u can expect them to wound us considerably. Facing the US is different and facing the IAF is different story All together . Only a fool would underestimate the advisory... ( we learned that hard way back then)

So basically no worries for the mighty IAF, right ?

PAF aircrafts are Third Generation Junk and mighty IAF has it all sown up with BVR missiles. PAF is outclassed and outmatched against the Technologically superior Mighty IAF. So I am still waiting for the Indian Geniuses to explain why we hear this vitriolic and scathing statements by Indians each time PAF acquires a Squadron of Pathetic Third Generation fighter aircrafts. Please enlighten us.

BTW, Sardar Jee tussi still great ho , Sir Jee.

vitriolic and scathing by us sometimes had managed to prevent U guys from acquiring important techs..... That is half war won if u ask me. By the way if u want some proper discussion then continue or want to troll then what can i say......

 

[LiberalAtheist]

So basically no worries for the mighty IAF, right ?

PAF aircrafts are Third Generation Junk and mighty IAF has it all sown up with BVR missiles. PAF is outclassed and outmatched against the Technologically superior Mighty IAF. So I am still waiting for the Indian Geniuses to explain why we hear this vitriolic and scathing statements by Indians each time PAF acquires a Squadron of Pathetic Third Generation fighter aircrafts. Please enlighten us.

BTW, Sardar Jee tussi still great ho , Sir Jee.

noone here is saying the PAF is a force of 3rd gen junk besides you even we know that the PAF is no force of idiots or junk besides the IAF is practically at rock bottom now with no basic trainer and it is at depleted force levels much lower than sanctioned strength these problems are not affecting the PAF and the PAF is modernizing rapidly which is why defense experts comment here and there to voice alert in the sense that the enemy is modernizing while we sit around like dimwits waiting for the gov't to approve the IAF orders.

 

[Pakistanisage]

U can expect that from Mastan Always...... Don forget to give capabilities of the PAF and its F-16 ..... We may go on to have air superiority eventually in case of war but u can expect them to wound us considerably. Facing the US is different and facing the IAF is different story All together . Only a fool would underestimate the advisory... ( we learned that hard way back then)


vitriolic and scathing by us sometimes had managed to prevent U guys from acquiring important techs..... That is half war won if u ask me. By the way if u want some proper discussion then continue or want to troll then what can i say......

But Illuminati, there are only 36 of those F-16 Block 52.

They are certainly no match for the more than 300 SU-30 MKI's + 126 Rafale's + Upgraded Mirage 2000 + upgraded Mig 29's and Mig - 27's + upgraded Jaguar's and still worried and losing sleep. Atleast that is how it appears from the statements from the Indian side. Please enlighten us.

noone here is saying the PAF is a force of 3rd gen junk besides you even we know that the PAF is no force of idiots or junk besides the IAF is practically at rock bottom now with no basic trainer and it is at depleted force levels much lower than sanctioned strength these problems are not affecting the PAF and the PAF is modernizing rapidly which is why defense experts comment here and there to voice alert in the sense that the enemy is modernizing while we sit around like dimwits waiting for the gov't to approve the IAF orders.

Tussi great ho Sirjee.

This is why you are my hero....

 

[Roybot]

We can't afford to be complacent and overconfident. What you term as "worrying", is IAF taking note of PAF's acquisitions and making changes accordingly.

 

[Agent Vinod]

But Illuminati, there are only 36 of those F-16 Block 52.

They are certainly no match for the more than 300 SU-30 MKI's + 126 Rafale's + Upgraded Mirage 2000 + upgraded Mig 29's and Mig - 27's + upgraded Jaguar's and still worried and losing sleep. Atleast that is how it appears from the statements from the Indian side. Please enlighten us.




Tussi great ho Sirjee.

This is why you are my hero....

The statement is in context of two front war. Kindly understand nobody is loosing sleep over pakistan getting few chinese toys.

 

[LiberalAtheist]

whatever we do they will try and counter it vice versa it shouldn't be a surprise to informed south asian defense experts

 

[illuminatidinesh]

But Illuminati, there are only 36 of those F-16 Block 52.

They are certainly no match for the more than 300 SU-30 MKI's + 126 Rafale's + Upgraded Mirage 2000 + upgraded Mig 29's and Mig - 27's + upgraded Jaguar's and still worried and losing sleep. Atleast that is how it appears from the statements from the Indian side. Please enlighten us.

The problem is that 36 still a lot to give trouble for IAF..... IAF would not want to engage those 36 in the event of most important missions.... Makes the task difficult. And here No one is worried and losing sleep. U can be rest assured. Lol U are most worried about our Sleep.

 

[Ajaxpaul]

Only F-16 is a sufficient threat to india...but if india decide to attack pak...we wont bring the big guns to the picture. India has enough fighters to keep F-16's occupied...as the days roll on, then gradually the big boys of IAF will slowly enter the scenario. By that time the conflict may be over.

Even if PAF counter attack...they cant strike deep inside india.

 

[regular]

IAF uses PAF.as a scare crow to squeeze out more funds frlm the politicians.
Its more convenient for IAF and easily understandable for the illiterate politicans compared to try understand chinese threat .

oh Damn!!! So this means that the indian Airforce and Army is blackmailing their public and the politicians to squeeze out more money and funds to fillup their pockets..Excellent job done by them.........