China, Rome, and the United States

[NiceGuy]

You had your chances, but the boat is gone. Vietnamese claim they defeated China many times in the past, each time they "won", VN becomes smaller. Keep winning and VN will be part of PRC.

Smaller ?? Dude, its so wrong .

First: We lost No land to u. the islands in SCS(east sea) still in dispute. Dont say something abt Friendship gate again. VN-China never have clear land border before 2011 , and the land around Friendship gate also is not arable land .We dont need that kind of land

Second: we got more fertile land from Camb .

Cambodia to cede two villages to Vietnam
Cambodia to cede two villages to Vietnam, National, Phnom Penh Post

Finnally: we wont allow asylum for you again like during Mongol & Manchul's invasion to China coz we dont like Chinese now. Dont forget millions of Chinese fled to Great Viet and begged for protection that time.

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

then explain me why alaska is the state with the highest percentage of native americans? We maybe took their land but we never tried to kill any one or shrink them in size like forced deportation in remote ares like you did in the US main land

Oh boy!!! Maybe you should compare the population of the Eskimo/Yupik/Sirenik people in Alaska (and even Canada) vs those left in Siberia (are there any left?).

 

[Rechoice]

What a joke,the majority of Cantonese certainly don't want to be independent and far less likely to join with Vietnam.

Have you forgotten Southern Han of the 5 dynasties 10 kingdoms?

They attempted to invade Northern Vietnam.

While your irredentist Vietnamese masturbate over the glorious Baiyue people realize that Southern Han will not flock to your cause.

For the last time,Nanyue was a Sincized Tai kingdom with "Han" kings and mixed nobility,the only legacy you have from Nanyue is of being a subservient people.

Before invasion of Qin 218 BCE, Ling Nan was native land of Hung kingdom of Van Lang. Yue people (Ou Yue and Luo Yue) lost their land to Qin and Han from over 2,000 years.

Southern Han of the 5 dynasties 10 kingdoms is existed later in 10th century.

Peter Bellwood suggested that, ethnic Vietnamese are descended from the ancient Yuè of northern Vietnam (Luo Yue) and western Guangdong (Ou Yue).

[ Peter Bellwood. Indo-Pacific prehistory: the Chiang Mai papers. Volume 2. Indo-Pacific Prehistory Association of Australian National University. p. 96.]

 

[Rechoice]

LOL Vietnam is a mixed khmer with a little yue blood. Let not act like you are some pure hundred yue. You are just a tribe that get conquered and ruled by our Qin general.

Han Chinese were tribe too, you were conquered and ruled by Nomads, Xianbei, Turks and Huno too.

 

[Snomannen]

Hong Kong obviously wants to be independent from China. They would rather be a British colony than being a part of China. If given referendum, they will join the U.K for sure 100%. Hong Kong sobbed about being handed back to China. Taiwan does not want to be a part of China so does the Chinese-majority of Singapore. The Uighurs, Tibetans, Inner Mongolian, Zhuang, Miao have fought China for independence throughout history; if given Crimea-style referendum, ALL would want to seceede from China.

Who do you think you are to represent us.

 

[Viet]

LOL Vietnam is a mixed khmer with a little yue blood. Let not act like you are some pure hundred yue. You are just a tribe that get conquered and ruled by our Qin general.

bullshit. Vietnamese are an indoaustralian race mixed with Mongolians and Chinese. the Viets rarely mix with Khmer and Cham people. In ancient times, Chinese as well as Viet emperors even forbade any social contacts between the Viets and Champa people.

when Nanyue was established, Qin no longer existed.

My comment on Al Jazeera.

The end of China's soft power? - Opinion - Al Jazeera English

the core problem is Chinese army sucks. it is too weak for your ambition.

 

[Snomannen]

the core problem is Chinese army sucks. it is too weak for your ambition.

Well Chinese army were not that suck compare with most of the countries. Also if you review the history again you will see that the disease in Vietnam given to the Chinese solider does matter. Even the British used to lose the war with Burma because of tropical disease (not to mention there used to be a war that over 10 thousands British were killed in Afghanistan hundreds year ago).

Han Chinese were tribe too, you were conquered and ruled by Nomads, Xianbei, Turks and Huno too.

Do you even know what Han Chinese is.
Most of the ethnics that you mentioned are no longer existed, also they were part of the ancestors of modern Han Chinese.

 

[Viet]

You have to admit that some Vietnamese fellows are so cute~
Since when did Nan Yue belongs to Vietnam

you mean Zhao Tuo/Trieu Da nationality as Chinese?

Catherine the Great ruled the Russian empire. She came from Germany, Kingdom of Prussia. the English empire was ruled by a German dynasty family the Winsors, Haus Sachsen-Coburg-Gotha.

Did Russia and England belong to Germany?

 

[Snomannen]

you mean Zhao Tuo/Trieu Da nationality as Chinese?

Catherine the Great ruled the Russian empire. She came from Germany, Kingdom of Prussia. the English empire was ruled by a German dynasty family the Winsors, Haus Sachsen-Coburg-Gotha.

Did Russia and England belong to Germany?

There is a huge difference between the two cases that they are not appropriated to be compared. We can nowadays find Russia, England and Germany on the map, yet Qin and Mr.Zhao's land are ancient Chinese countries. They are in the land of modern China and so are the descendants.

 

[Viet]

There is a huge difference between the two cases that they are not appropriated to be compared. We can nowadays find Russia, England and Germany on the map, yet Qin and Mr.Zhao's land are ancient Chinese countries. They are in the land of modern China and so are the descendants.

many Chinese countries?

yes, that is a big question, where does China begin and where does it end?
some Vietnamese scholars claim the Viets are descendants of Shennong emperor. So if we are brother and sister, does China belong to Vietnam and vice versa?

 

[INDIC]

India has illegally annexed South Tibet/Arunachal Pradesh and Sikkim, which are full of ethnic Chinese Tibetans.

Thus, Indians are no strangers to grabbing land.

I just want to return the favor.

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What is the ethnic Chinese Tibetan. The people who share closest culture with ethnic Chinese are the Japanese, Koreans and Vietnamese.

Once they've hit the down spirall it was only negative from then on with brief shiny moments.A bit like the SU which was the climax of Russian power (Rome during Trajan).Now Russia has a spark but it won't reach the zenith of the SU again and it won't last.History is cyclical.

Truth be told there is an exception that confirms all of this and that is China.China seems the eternal roller coaster...up...down-for some 2500 years allready.The "CCP dinasty" hasn't reached its zenith yet and i suspect that this century belongs to it.

More to the point now...in the last 2000 years China allready anexed territories,this is just a continuation,China isn't a young empire but the oldest one rehashed in different forms over the ages.China needs to grow and strenghten what it allready has.

History China had been a country within the boundary of Great Wall of China. This is their original China which they call as first United China.

 

[Viet]

Shenzhen
Hanoi

your pic shows old quarter of the city. here are some showing from different angles.

 

[Snomannen]

many Chinese countries?

yes, that is a big question, where does China begin and where does it end?
some Vietnamese scholars claim the Viets are descendants of Shennong emperor. So if we are brother and sister, does China belong to Vietnam and vice versa?

Same to those questions like where did India and Germany begin their history~
Hmm... nope, both inner and outer Mongolian claim the descendants of Kublai, but the history of Yuan still belongs to China, not Khalkha Mongolia.

 

[INDIC]

 

[Sanchez]

It looks like 1980s, Viet boy!