China renames a river because it sounds Arabic

[nang2]

Chinese government officials (not necessarily local leadership) and Chinese Islamic scholars need to sit down and decide the limits of this process and the acceptable/unacceptable manifestations of this.

Hazrat Aisha’s name is no threat to China, neither is Islam.

Actually this is a new opportunity for China to break from the West/Russian historic antagonism of Islam and present a new partnership.

Throughout the history, Chinese rulers more or less knew about religions. The current situation is very unique and the future is a bit unpredictable: the current Chinese rulers have no clue about religions. I don't think it is something that can resolved by sitting down and discussing.

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

Throughout the history, Chinese rulers more or less knew about religions. The current situation is very unique and the future is a bit unpredictable: the current Chinese rulers have no clue about religions. I don't think it is something that can resolved by sitting down and discussing.

The Islamic world is on the rise, and it will not be long before a genuine Khilafat rises again.

As the West falls, the Muslim world will break the chains of servitude and slavery imposed on it.

Here is the opportunity for China to portray itself as an ally and defender of Islam and Muslim people.

As a Pakistani, hence friend of China, this is my advice to you.

Already China has changed some strategies in the way it deals with Afghan Taliban, Turkey, Iran, and the Arab world.

China needs strong allies and friends, the rising Muslim countries need stable, reliable partners, so it only makes sense.

As the US tries to cage China in East Asia and Southeast Asia, the Islamic heartland (Central Asia, ME, Pakistan, Turkey, North Africa) is left wide open for China.

 

[nang2]

The Islamic world is on the rise, and it will not be long before a genuine Khilafat rises again.

As the West falls, the Muslim world will break the chains of servitude and slavery imposed on it.

Here is the opportunity for China to portray itself as an ally and defender of Islam and Muslim people.

As a Pakistani, hence friend of China, this is my advice to you.

Already China has changed some strategies in the way it deals with Afghan Taliban, Turkey, Iran, and the Arab world.

China needs strong allies and friends, the rising Muslim countries need stable, reliable partners, so it only makes sense.

As the US tries to cage China in East Asia and Southeast Asia, the Islamic heartland (Central Asia, ME, Pakistan, Turkey, North Africa) is left wide open for China.

As I said, even ruthless conquest could make Chinese bend its rules. Do you think they will do so for the sake of strategic convenience?

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

As I said, even ruthless conquest could make Chinese bend its rules. Do you think they will do so for the sake of strategic convenience?

National interest and convergence of that interest benefits only China.

I don’t see any other way.

Unfortunately many Non-Muslim populations, including Chinese, are illiterate about Islam and rely solely on Western propaganda for their information.

Education is key here, and what better source of information than China’s own Muslim populations.

 

[vi-va]

Really?!

I thought you people credited China's success over India to Chinese culture, chinese intelligence, and Chinese ingenuity. Now you credit Mao as well? Interesting...

Also, one thing where India has been much successful than China, which is important, has been to build a national narrative and assimilate people. China on the other hand has been totally unsuccessful in assimilating any people that weren't already assimilated and building a national inclusive narrative.

Look at Xinjiang, you think the Uygurs there won't rebel at the first chance they get when China is weak?

Or look at Tibet. The same.

Or even further, look at Hong Kong. That place is actually settled by Han Chinese, but you can't even assimilate them.

You are VERY VERY poor at Soft Skills.

This comes from Chief of Army Staff General Bipin Rawat

NEW DELHI: Indian Army is fully prepared for a simultaneous multi-front war on both external and internal fronts, Army Chief Gen Bipin Rawat said.

“Indian Army is fully ready for a two and a half front war," he said in an interview to news agency ANI which was released on Thursday referring to China, Pakistan and the internal security threats.

https://www.thehindu.com/news/natio...-half-front-war-gen-rawat/article18867921.ece

 

[S10]

China renames a river because it sounds Arabic

https://www.inkstonenews.com/china/...bic-sounding-name-local-river/article/2166225

Israel is evil but judeo-Communism is okay, supposedly*....

*we should oppose both

Naming our own territorial waterways is evil? Okay there Jihadi.

 

[vi-va]

Let's fact speak for themselves, PRC and the Republic of Korea were founded basically around the same time, and now ROK has a GDP per capita that is 3.5 times that of PRC.

We are comparing 2 independent states, not comparing with vassal state unless you think India is someone's vassal.

There are some economical benefits for being super power's vassal.

 

[Ritual]

When will we be seeing a return in cultural dress en masse in China? I think leaders should lead by example. Maybe Chinese people need to ask why their leaders dress like westerners? That would more monumental than changing the name of a river.

China’s cities are just carbon copies of Western cities. The ladies are in shorts & t-shirts, the men are in suits. Mcdonalds is booming and traditional eating is in decline among the young. Even look at a Chinese wedding, they are just like in the West with suits & brides in white gowns. What exactly is Chinese culture today? I don’t mean to offend our Chinese friends but there is a point.

 

[Omar Al-Deek]

Naming our own territorial waterways is evil? Okay there Jihadi.

So reposting a news article makes me a Jihadi allegedly. So my beard must make me Osama Bin Laden from your viewpoint... so therefore needing to be put in a "re-education" camp.....

it's funny that you use the word "evil"..... clearly there is evil in China

and I don't even blame the Chinese people, I don't blame the government.... but Communism is evil and the people should be opposed to it....

atheism and materialism are evil also.... I don't think Chinese people traditionally were atheist..... I think atheism and materialism are foreign and unnatural to Chinese people as for any other people

You are right. But it is not a matter of who deciding what. As you said, China has borrowed or integrated many other cultures into its own social fabrics. It is a large capacity of doing so. However, it has its own unifying agent, which makes Chinese culture a distinct one, though always shifting. It is Chinese language. The only foreign cultures that will be adopted or integrated are those that present themselves in Chinese. Even foreign rulers who wanted to make their rule last had to adopt Chinese. Buddhists knew it. Christians knew it, too. Many very enlightened Buddhist masters strove to translate Buddhist scriptures from Sanskrit to Chinese. Their translation is so brilliant that it is now a part of Chinese heritage. Christian missionaries did the same, though not as lucky as Buddhists. Doesn't matter where a culture was originated, China can absorb into its own when it sees its brilliance. But it has to wear Chinese clothes. Even ruthless conquest could not make Chinese to bend this rule.

Islam is Islam. There is no Indian Islam, Indonesian Islam, Pakistani Islam, Somali Islam, etc.

Muslims should follow the path of the pious predecessors.

 

[Salahuddin Ayyubi]

So you know how many Hindi names of places in Pakistan has been changed to sound more Persian or Arabic? Let's not be hypocritical

Looks like China doesn't appreciate multiculturalism lol

 

[Desert Fox]

So you know how many Hindi names of places in Pakistan has been changed to sound more Persian or Arabic? Let's not be hypocritical

Personally I can care less if China changes names of rivers. I was only pointing out the hypocrisy of the people who will be quick to attack any other country for doing the same as a "racist" and "Islamophobic" society.

 

[S10]

So reposting a news article makes me a Jihadi allegedly. So my beard must make me Osama Bin Laden from your viewpoint... so therefore needing to be put in a "re-education" camp.....

it's funny that you use the word "evil"..... clearly there is evil in China

and I don't even blame the Chinese people, I don't blame the government.... but Communism is evil and the people should be opposed to it....

atheism and materialism are evil also.... I don't think Chinese people traditionally were atheist..... I think atheism and materialism are foreign and unnatural to Chinese people as for any other people



Islam is Islam. There is no Indian Islam, Indonesian Islam, Pakistani Islam, Somali Islam, etc.

Muslims should follow the path of the pious predecessors.

Salafist Islam is foreign and unnatural to China, much more so than Communism. The evil in China is government giving too much leeway to Wahabists for the past 20 years. At least atheism had its roots in traditional Confucian teachings. With luck, foreign religions that refuse to integrate into Chinese culture will be driven out in a few decades.

 

[Omar Al-Deek]

Salafist Islam is foreign and unnatural to China, much more so than Communism. The evil in China is government giving too much leeway to Wahabists for the past 20 years. At least atheism had its roots in traditional Confucian teachings. With luck, foreign religions that refuse to integrate into Chinese culture will be driven out in a few decades.

Salafiyya just means following Islam as practiced by the earliest generations, as followed by the pious predecessors. I don't think there's any harm in people praying five times a day and fasting.

Sheikh Fawzan is one of the most loved and respected Salafi scholars and he speaks out against ISIS http://www.ibntaymiyyah.com/articles/mskitdp-shaykh-salih-al-fawzan-on-the-necessity-of-security.cfm

Not only does he promote fighting them on the physical front but he fights them on the theological front, showing how their theology is false and how Islam doesn't teach terrorism.

I believe Muslims have a right to practice their religion. There's nothing wrong with a Muslim practicing their religion. If we're talking about terrorists, I don't think they should be put in camps. If they are Khawarij, I think they should be killed. But a Muslim having a beard doesn't make him a terrorist. If criminalizing belief in God isn't Satanic, I don't know what is. Communism is clearly a Satanic ideology. Karl Marx was working on behalf of an international Jewish conspiracy to advance the New World Order.

 

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China isn't a religious country, more like obey the Law and Order which is why there isn't any force conversions through out Chinese history. But there are harsh laws against separatists like in Xinjiang, that river unfortunately got rename because of what is happening in Xinjiang.

 

[OldenWisdom...قول بزرگ]

Western cultures are mainly from Italy and Greece, East Asian cultures are basically Chinese culture in every detail, so saying us cultureless only shows ones ignorance on eastern Culture and history.

Is communism/socialism or even capitalism Chinese? Clothes worn in China today... are those Chinese? Architecture in China, is that chinese? The language still, yes ... but Chinese are only fooling themselves thinking that they're continuation of the same civilization.... which Chinese media so assiduously tries to portray. Mao destroyed old China and it only survived that earlier onslaught due to deep structural changes and reform in economic matters. Which have become both a boon for it's people in lifting them from poverty while simultaneously putting them in bondage for thw rest of their lives. China survived droughts but let's see how it survives what they have woven around themselves now!