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"It ranks governments based on their perceived efforts." Does not mean trafficking is perceived. If you only spent more time paying attention to what was written...
Trafficking is not perceived, but that ranking is based on perceived effort, not trafficking. Get it genius? So example if India is trafficking Nepali girls, but the government is perceived to be more active, example by talking more and louder which most Indians do, they get a higher ranking. It is also politically motivated as the ranking is at the mercy of the American Presidente. Example China was ranked Tier 2 previously, now it's lowered due to the NK crisis.
 
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I'm still not seeing the sources you are making these conclusions from.

Let's start with the "average fruit and vegetable" consumption per person. Let's see your data source first and foremost. I am pretty sure I know what you are referring from, its debunked ridiculously easily.


I was referring to the screen shots of NDTV in post #5. It seems NDTV was using OECD as their source.
 
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So can you explain to me this discrepancy? Instead of asking people to proof this and that, why not you proof your point? It is a fact India is a starving country even compared to NK. Just accept it, stop trying to twist your way around like a typical Indian.

You can go to the FAOSTAT and check which fruits and veggies they gather data for. Post it here and I will then mention some of the 100's of fruits and veggies in India that are grown that are not included.

I know you have a sad affinity to feel you have to defend your fellow stalinist authoritarian North Korea (that stayed a devout Hermit unlike you lot), but India is hardly a "starving country" and neither does North Korea have an iota of credibility (as reported by numerous organisations that measure such) regarding its development claims.

Plus if you want to be consistent and concrete, you can lead with Pakistan being a starving country too each time you bring that up to derail a thread in some way too. See how far that gets you.

I was referring to the screen shots of NDTV in post #5. It seems NDTV was using OECD as their source.

OECD again takes from the FAO....which is a flawed measurement for aggregating entire types of foods....both on composition (i dont see at least 20 fruits and veggies present in just my hometown memories recorded there)and implied nutritional equivalency (1 kilogram of bok choy is not the same for a person as 1 kilogram of chickpeas) given much regional diversity on the issue.


And, today's hawthorn is too sour, But pomegranates are good...

Pomegranates are good! I prefer them a bit tart.
 
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You can go to the FAOSTAT and check which fruits and veggies they gather data for. Post it here and I will then mention some of the 100's of fruits and veggies in India that are grown that are not included.

I know you have a sad affinity to feel you have to defend your fellow stalinist authoritarian North Korea (that stayed a devout Hermit unlike you lot), but India is hardly a "starving country" and neither does North Korea have an iota of credibility (as reported by numerous organisations that measure such) regarding its development claims.
OK, why not you go to the FAOSTATS, put the data here and compare with the 100s of fruits not present inside? I want you to list it all, included that exotic unknown jungle fruit from South India.
India is hardly starving? :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:. Ok, you are more delusional than jackdaws.

I have no affinity for NK, except for their ladies, but India being ranked lower than NK is really pathetic. Isn't India a supapowa?
 
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You can go to the FAOSTAT and check which fruits and veggies they gather data for. Post it here and I will then mention some of the 100's of fruits and veggies in India that are grown that are not included.

I know you have a sad affinity to feel you have to defend your fellow stalinist authoritarian North Korea (that stayed a devout Hermit unlike you lot), but India is hardly a "starving country" and neither does North Korea have an iota of credibility (as reported by numerous organisations that measure such) regarding its development claims.

Plus if you want to be consistent and concrete, you can lead with Pakistan being a starving country too each time you bring that up to derail a thread in some way too. See how far that gets you.



OECD again takes from the FAO....which is a flawed measurement for aggregating entire types of foods....both on composition (i dont see at least 20 fruits and veggies present in just my hometown memories recorded there)and implied nutritional equivalency (1 kilogram of bok choy is not the same for a person as 1 kilogram of chickpeas) given much regional diversity on the issue.




Pomegranates are good! I prefer them a bit tart.
Hawthorn was bought in the morning. Pomegranate is our family planted. Hawthorn is too sour. But if it wraps sugar...

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This is the love of my childhood.
 
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I sense a surge in rape cases in China with all these hindu rapists coming in
I doubt it. Have you seen the news that three indians got beaten down to the ground by several old gentlemen in Hongkong, when they tried to harass a young girl.
What i could expect is such news would be more and more popular with the indian tourists come in.
But in the end, they would take care of their dicks when they find what's gonna cost if they made themselves at home too much in China.
 
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@Nilgiri
China's vegetable production a year is 797.8 million tons. You can refer to the picture below, which obtained from the website of NBS (National Bureau of Statistics). The unit is in 10,000 ton
http://www.stats.gov.cn/tjsj/sjjd/201706/t20170622_1506090.html

If we ignore the impacts from exports/imports, that means China's vegetable consumption per capita is about 1.7kg per day, which is aligned with the figure we read from the first page.

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The following tables comes from China Statistical Yearbook, which shows the agricultural products production in China. The figures are given in 10,000 ton, or 10,000 units.

For example, the 2nd table shows China's 2015 fruit production is 273.75 million tons. Again ignore the impacts from exports/imports, that means China's fruit consumption per capita is about 570 gram per day.

@Nilgiri
mind to share us the similar data of India? Thanks!

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@Nilgiri
China's vegetable production a year is 797.8 million tons. You can refer to the picture below, which obtained from the website of NBS (National Bureau of Statistics). The unit is in 10,000 ton
http://www.stats.gov.cn/tjsj/sjjd/201706/t20170622_1506090.html

If we ignore the impacts from exports/imports, that means China's vegetable consumption per capita is about 1.7kg per day, which is aligned with the figure we read from the first page.

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The following tables comes from China Statistical Yearbook, which shows the agricultural products production in China. The figures are given in 10,000 ton, or 10,000 units.

For example, the 2nd table shows China's 2015 fruit production is 273.75 million tons. Again ignore the impacts from exports/imports, that means China's fruit consumption per capita is about 570 gram per day.

@Nilgiri
mind to share us the similar data of India? Thanks!

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Nilgiri will tell you his chapati has more calorie than the meat we eat.
 
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@Nilgiri
China's vegetable production a year is 797.8 million tons. You can refer to the picture below, which obtained from the website of NBS (National Bureau of Statistics). The unit is in 10,000 ton
http://www.stats.gov.cn/tjsj/sjjd/201706/t20170622_1506090.html

If we ignore the impacts from exports/imports, that means China's vegetable consumption per capita is about 1.7kg per day, which is aligned with the figure we read from the first page.

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The following tables comes from China Statistical Yearbook, which shows the agricultural products production in China. The figures are given in 10,000 ton, or 10,000 units.

For example, the 2nd table shows China's 2015 fruit production is 273.75 million tons. Again ignore the impacts from exports/imports, that means China's fruit consumption per capita is about 570 gram per day.

@Nilgiri
mind to share us the similar data of India? Thanks!

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What the Indian govt records is around 300 million tons of production of "conventional" fruit and veg I think in 2016.

This does not include much of the seasonal rural production which is not even really estimated (for just one example I remember a special kind of small pickling mango in my home city that only really gets harvested by tribal mountain people one time in year and they sell directly rather than use markets). If India expands its record keeping I am sure it can get much higher volumes, but the point is only those that sustain the population visibly (and across the country largely uniformly in demand) in largely urban market places (or rural warehouse markets) "formally" are recorded (and also used in inflation calculations etc). It is why it is better to survey on consumption end especially for the poorer people...and honestly Indian surveying on that I have to look into given main ones I know are largely raw calorie focused rather than composition focused.

Improvement of this (methodology) is actually why World Bank dropped the Indian absolute poverty level from above 20% to somewhere around 12% for the year 2011/12....by changing from URP to MMRP:

http://indianexpress.com/article/explained/meaning-urp-mrp-mmrp/

Another issue when we talk about FAO conventional supply metric is also a lot of production/raw supply may not be directly consumed by people (take soybeans for example which is mostly animal feed in many countries, same with corn and many other cereal and "veg" crop). This links into the food energy pyramid (i.e resources of meat per land compared to legume/cereal per land) so again the consumption per capita survey is only really the credible way to take into account how the realised inefficiencies etc manifest at ground level by what humans can physically consume.

This is why the earlier pictures posted are ridiculous (and NDTV I would not really expect much better depending on whatever political slant they have latched onto for whatever discussion). 400g of daily protein supply per chinese is not what they physically actually consume...because over 100g per person (in a day for an adult) is already running into territory of protein oversupply per capita. Rather much is animal feed or simply unprocessed/inaccesible/unfeasible protein depending on what is being aggregated supply-wise.

From the food security index the actual consumption per capita of quality protein per capita is recorded at:

India = 39 grams (65% of raw supply)
China = 69 grams (18% of raw supply)

World average = 58 grams

Sri Lanka (with higher HDI than China and same region/weather/overall consumption cultural patterns as India) = 37 grams (just for reference)

http://foodsecurityindex.eiu.com/Country/Details#China
http://foodsecurityindex.eiu.com/Country/Details#India

This is largely given the pretty wide discrepancy between the two in animal feed/meat animal rearing.

As seen from the Sri Lankan case (and its HDI but also problems in number of hunger index cherry-picked components) there is also more to it (malnutrition) than straight up raw production supply of conventional "vegetables/fruits/cereals/protein"...but more to do with actual on ground per capita consumption, poverty intensity and probably more than 2/3rds to do with (as a number of studies in India have shown by comparing widely varying states) to sanitation/primary health care/education (esp of children and mothers). The issue of raw food availability (even in remote areas) is largely a solved one in South Asia in general, esp compared to the focused healthcare and sanitation for those most vulnerable who can definitely be numbered in the 33% - 66% bulk prevalence of the total population....job is about half done among them (and it is splotchy and varied), but there is a drive in many of the countries to now get the last half done among them. In India I can specifically speak that because of the migration from poor states to rich states....those migrants increasingly see how the common rural people of the richer states are faring and what is provided to them as basics...and they are pushing for the same back home for their families and asking questions. This is why many issues are no longer being put to the backburner and are being addressed head on (like the total sanitation campaign that is ongoing).
 
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