China Plane Crashes With 132 On Board; No Sign Of Survivors, Says Report

[Song Hong]

Weather is good. Aircraft normally fails during take of or descend. Rarely on cruise.

Modern jet is designed to glide when both engine stall. The glide gradient is 15:1 for 737NG. Let say this aircraft complete fails at 9000m in a stable position, then best case it can glide for around 130km.

Very unusual to nose dive.

 

[srshkmr]

I have a flight next week on 737-800 this is making me nervous, an update on the investigation based on the data recorder would be nice

 

[unrequitted_love_suzy]

@unrequitted_love_suzy idiot!

thank you sir

 

[srshkmr]

thank you sir

Why are you laughing at the crash?

 

[unrequitted_love_suzy]

Why are you laughing at the crash?

i'm not laughing i'm crying

 

[srshkmr]

i'm not laughing i'm crying

Second from right is crying, the one you are doing is laughing. I am sorry shouldn’t have called you an idiot

 

[Tomcats]

FlightRadar Telemetry

https://twitter.com/x/status/1505856329994457092

 

[Song Hong]

You can pull out 737-800 casualties record. This is a very safe aircraft and perpendicular nose dive at cruise is only one case - the one we see now. Not to mention China has world BEST aviation safety.

Aviation Safety Network > ASN Aviation Safety Database > ASN Aviation Safety Database results

Aviation Safety Network: Aviation Safety Network: Databases containing descriptions of over 11000 airliner write-offs, hijackings and military aircraft accidents.

aviation-safety.net

 

[gambit]

I believe you need a refresher course on Boeing.

I do? China released the Max last yr. You did not know that?

China approves Boeing's 737 Max to fly again

An airworthiness directive issued by the Civil Aviation Administration of China orders airlines to make changes to the plane before passenger flights can resume.

www.cnet.com

 

[Paitoo]

I have a flight next week on 737-800 this is making me nervous, an update on the investigation based on the data recorder would be nice

Never in history have 2 aircraft of the same type crashed in such proximity of time. Statistical (im)probability is on your side. I would suggest take this flight without stress.

 

[gambit]

I have a flight next week on 737-800 this is making me nervous, an update on the investigation based on the data recorder would be nice

We would be fortunate if they find the FDR by next week. But let us say they find the flight data recorder (FDR) and the cockpit voice recorder (CVR) tomorrow.

Both devices cannot just simply be opened. The inspectors have to take note of any external physical damages before they can formulate a plan on how to open them. If there are external physical damages, simply opening the case could damage the internal recording components possibly losing the data. Even though today's technology that the data are on non-volatile FLASH modules, they will not take chances and simply take screwdrivers and wrenches to the devices. If the internal components are displaced because of the severity of the crash, the inspectors want to preserve whatever physical conditions there are before they can do any data extraction. Who found the devices and how were they transported off the crash site? Any dirt, water, or insects? If burnt, how severe?

So either take the flight or cancel. But unlikely we will get any technical update from the devices.

 

[_Nabil_]

Second from right is crying, the one you are doing is laughing. I am sorry shouldn’t have called you an idiot

You shouldn't feel sorry, he's an Idiot Indeed, he was laughing at op and many other ones .... Can't be a mistake or fat fingers multiple times.

 

[Falconless]

they probablyran out of fuel.

Unlikely given the fireball and for the fact that planes can glide for hours from their cruising altitude

 

[8888888888888]

Data from FR24 indicates pilot are trying hard to salvage the situation. We can rule out pilot suicide. Pilot succeed for a while and the plane climb.

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Plane Error.........

 

[MH.Yang]

1. The crashed passenger plane was 737-800, not 737max.

2. 737-800 is an aircraft with a good safety record, China trusts this aircraft. China Eastern Airlines grounded 737-800 in accordance with the provisions of the accident handling process, not because of the aircraft quality. The Civil Aviation Administration of China has been involved in the investigation, and the Chinese government will find out the cause of the accident.

3. China Eastern Airlines has a very good safety record. Before the accident, China Eastern Airlines had been accident free for 4227 days, and they had just set a world record of 100 million hours of safe flight. We should not question the professionalism of China Eastern Airlines pilots.

4. The plane was pulled up for a period of time before the crash, which proves that the pilot is trying his best to save the plane. We believe that the cause of the accident was not the pilot's suicide.

5. The plane hit the ground almost vertically, unlike the engine grounding.

6. The plane crashed rapidly from an altitude of nearly 30000 feet and hit the ground in less than 2 minutes. There are few survivors in this situation.

7. There were 132 people on the plane, not 133. A boy refunded his ticket before the plane took off.