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Rest from China as in loan from China not grant right?I seriously doubt it would cost $58-100 billion. At the moment we are in the final stages to negotiate a deal to rehabilitate the Karachi-Peshawar ML-1 (1,687 km ) line which is estimated to be at around $10 billion. That will be our priority first. It is something like 3 billion from ADB, 1 billion from GoP and rest from China.
Definitely not an easy task. But didn't people also doubt before the KKH was built? I will say this though I would prefer we rehabilitate the Pakistan-Iran-Turkey rail line and go to standard gauge. That is much more economical and it benefits us strategically as well on the western side.
Not sure in what form it would be from China. Could be either loan or build operate transferRest from China as in loan from China not grant right?
Ml-1 is good tbh, that serves our purpose but this is way too much
No one lives in Northern PakistanBetter build train route from Lahore into Northern Pakistan.
58 billion dollars is too expensive.
$58 billion can manufacture 70 type 055 destroyers or 14 aircraft carriers.
Better build train route from Lahore into Northern Pakistan.
Like i said KKH was built along a natural river stream and it was naturally at a sustainable elevation that people also dwelt alongside this route. A railroad could be built alongside KKH but a new route is impossible.. But didn't people also doubt before the KKH was built?
For the sake of supporting Northern Pakistan people and to boost Pakistan tourism. Northern Pakistan is similar like Bali to Indonesia. Both have tourism appeal and while Bali is majority Hindu, Northern Pakistan is majority Shiah.No one lives in Northern Pakistan
Most of Pakistan lives in peshawar valley,near 5 rivers of Eastern Punjab and it's canal colonies and southern part along the Indus river
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our Ml-1 line covers all of this area, that's why government is rightfully upgrading it
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Connecting our north and Balochistan is not a priority as we are already cash strapped
Exactly.Lahore to Islamabad and then moving northward through Gilgit Baltistan to the Chinese border.
A new route could possibly be build up to Chitral (kunar river valley?) and then over to the border crossing. It would the furthest away from Indian forces and possible attack.Like i said KKH was built along a natural river stream and it was naturally at a sustainable elevation that people also dwelt alongside this route. A railroad could be built alongside KKH but a new route is impossible.
Considering Pakistan has to pay for this, charging for transit is a no brainer and the only way to make it a sustainable project. I hope the powers that be make sure this is truly a sustainable project because the nation can not bear tens of billions of loans that will put us in another economic crisis in a decades time.As far as china is concerned, it provides a direct and very short land based route to Middle east's energy markets which also happen to be cash rich, and growing, spending at a blistering rate.
Pakistan should let the chineese build the railway, and charge for land access & freight.
Let the chineese deal with the rest.
Compare it to the risk of supplies being cutoff in the malacca straits and 58 Billion is a small price to pay for maintaining supplies of imports and exports.$8 billion probably is Ok, but not $58 billion, it's too big a risk even for China.
This is why Pakistan needs to get its act together, have the elections, and have a government that focuses on the economy.I am worried that some Pakistanis might think this huge rail project is another big debt trap China is imposing on Pakistan just as some think the other on going CPEC projects are. $58 billion is a big risky spending for even the size of China too. China has to be cautious. China has already over spent or wasted lots of money on many BRI projects like in Africa and Latin America that are not crucial or important to China's security and development.
Chinese can still use Sunda and Makassar Strait ( if it maintain good relationship with Indonesia )Compare it to the risk of supplies being cutoff in the malacca straits and 58 Billion is a small price to pay for maintaining supplies of imports and exports.
I don't see that happening. Afghanistan is a failed state, too dangerous, backward and a gov. led by Taliban only care about fighting wars. I know it's a bit bold but I believe at some point Pakistan has to conquer eastern part of Afghanistan. Only then we will see peace and the time we can connect with Central Asia.There is also a possibility the $5 Billion for the Tran-Afghan rail route (Peshawar to Uzbekistan) has also been added into this route, to better integrate Afghanistan into CPEC and speed up the mining efforts there, and connect to the rail routes in Central Asia.
China might have good relations with Indonesia, but right on the other side of those straits could be AUKUS subs waiting to take down tanker ships or PLAN warships. Indonesia may officially close the straits in a war causing a disruption of supplies.Chinese can still use Sunda and Makassar Strait ( if it maintain good relationship with Indonesia )
Malacca strait basically belong to Indonesia, the only regional power in SEA
The route through Afghanistan is a bonus and not the primary route (and a relatively modest $5 Billion) in the case the Afghans want to focus on mining exports.I don't see that happening. Afghanistan is a failed state, too dangerous, backward and a gov. led by Taliban only care about fighting wars. I know it's a bit bold but I believe at some point Pakistan has to conquer eastern part of Afghanistan. Only then we will see peace and the time we can connect with Central Asia.
I seriously doubt it would cost $58-100 billion. At the moment we are in the final stages to negotiate a deal to rehabilitate the Karachi-Peshawar ML-1 (1,687 km ) line which is estimated to be at around $10 billion. That will be our priority first. It is something like 3 billion from ADB, 1 billion from GoP and rest from China.
Definitely not an easy task. Worst case scenario is we build a rail line up to Hazara. Railway goods can be transferred to trucks which could then carry on to China via KKH. But then didn't people also doubt KKH before it was built?
I will say this though I would prefer we prioritize and rehabilitate the Pakistan-Iran-Turkey rail line and go to standard gauge. That is much more economical and it benefits us strategically as well on the western side.
Indonesia is unlikely close Malacca strait, what we are doing is just abducting some ships who wants to go to Singapore port if they dont follow our rule like happening last year and the other year.China might have good relations with Indonesia, but right on the other side of those straits could be AUKUS subs waiting to take down tanker ships or PLAN warships. Indonesia may officially close the straits in a war causing a disruption of supplies.