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Pakistan building 150 new Stealth version of JF-17 Thunder: Exports to Egypt, Turkey etc.
Despite Bharati propoganda, there is no issue of getting RD-93 engines from Russia. The successful trials of WS-13 have already happened last year, and there are JF-17 Thunder prototypes flying with WS-13s. Pakistan is also building a version of WS-13 which would be totally indigenous.
The JF-17 Thunder will be built in blocks of 50 planes with each block more advanced than the last one. The first blocks were planned to be built with the RD-93 (500 planned this way). As time moves on, the JF-17 Thunders will be built with the WS-13. As exports catch up with production–money will be ploughed into the PAF R&D to build new engines and new versions of the JF-17 Thunder. As written before, the Stealth version of the JF-17 Thunder is already in the works.
Pakistan is already working on the FC-20 the next generation fighter. So JF-17s will be the mainstay and be exported, while FC-20 will be the new fighter for the PAF. Pakistan has redesigned the J-10 as the J-10B which is a totally different plane based on Pakistan’s exposure to Western technology–the secret ingredient that China does not have.
With experience from the F-16s Block 52, Pakistan is setting up a regional service center. The profits will go in a new generation of avionics.
* Islamabad will put its JF-17 Thunder fighter aircraft on sale at the Farnborough Air Show near London, a Pakistani TV channel said on Monday.
* The Farnborough Air Show, one of the most preeminent global aviation events, will be held from July 19 – 25. The first five days of the show will be dedicated to concluding deals and the exhibition will then be open to the public over the weekend. Ria Novosti
* According to a senior source, Turkey and a range of Middle East and African states are interested in the fighters. The money from any sales will be steered into the country’s air force. Ria Novosti
* Sudan, Egypt or Turkey could be the first MENA region customers for the Chengdu/Pakistan Aeronautical Complex (PAC) JF-17 fighter, which is making its Western air show debut at Farnborough. Araian Aerospace
* The JF-17 aircraft will be produced in blocks of 50 aircraft each where every succeeding block would be an upgraded version of the preceding block. APP
* The aircraft has been co-developed and co-produced by Pakistan Air Force and China Aviation Technology Import and Export Corporation (CATIC).APP
* China and Pakistan have reportedly signed a memorandum of understanding to develop a stealth version of a light-weight fighter aircraft being jointly produced by them to match MiG-21 warplane, a work horse of the Indian Air Force.Outlook India.
* According to flightglobal, getting a suitable engine could be a potential hurdle, however, with Russia unwilling to allow China to use the Klimov RD-93 engine beyond the aircraft’s current buyers. China’s Guizhou Aircraft has been developing the WS-13 Taishan for the fighter for the past 10 years, and a JF-17 reportedly made a test flight using the new powerplant in March. Arabian Aerospace
* An official at the Chinese export agency marketing the Chinese JF-17/FC-1 fighter says Russia has given no signal that it will interrupt the flow of the RD-93 engine it makes for the aircraft. Defense News
ISLAMABAD, July 19 (APP): Pakistan’s Chief of Air Staff Air Chief Marshall Rao Qamar Suleman has said that the co-development and co-production of JF-17 Thunder Aircraft by Pakistan and China is a success story and the two countries will continue cooperating in the field of Aviations in future. He was speaking on the occasion of Farnbrough Air Show 2010, said a press release issued here on Monday. Pakistan’s two JF-17 Thunder fighter planes are participating in the show. The aircraft has been co-developed and co-produced by Pakistan Air Force and China Aviation Technology Import and Export Corporation (CATIC).
Pakistan Air Force delegation is headed by Air Vice Marshal Muhammad Arif, SI(M), S.Bt. The two aircraft have been flown to the UK by Wing Commander Khalid and Sqn Ldr. Leader Azkaar.
The Chief of Air Staff is currently visiting UK on the invitation of Roya Air Force. The air Chief held meetings with the President CATIC Mr.Li Yu Haiand Vice President Aviation Industry of China (AVIC) Mr. Li Yu Hai and visited joint Stall setup by CATIC and Pakistan Aeronautical Complex Kamra and signed the visitors book.
Pakistan Air Force and CATIC have co-developed and co-produced the JF-17 Thunder aircraft which is being unveiled for the first time at the Farnborough Air Show.
The JF-17 Thunder is an all weather, multi-role, light combat aircraft.
Its design is based on modern concepts of aerodynamics and is equipped with hybrid fly-by-wire flight control system.
The aircraft has a full glass cockpit, excellent man-machine interface and modern self-protection suite, which gives it a good combat potential and ensures its survivability in high threat combat environments. It is equipped with fourth generation avionics systems, wide range of conventional/smart weapons.
Beyond Visual Range & short range air-to-air missiles, and air-to-surface missiles, the aircraft also has a remarkably short
take-off/landing distance that gives it the flexibility to operate from short airfields.
Shortly, the aircraft will also have the air-to-air refuelling capability which will further enhance its combat potential and
employment options.
First proto type of the JF-17 aircraft flew in September,2003. After flight testing, a Small Batch of 08 aircraft was produced in year 2007 and ,finally, serial production of the aircraft was started in Pakistan in the year 2009. So far 16 aircraft have been produced.
The JF-17 aircraft will be produced in blocks of 50 aircraft each where every succeeding block would be an upgraded version of the preceding block.
Pakistan’s share in co-production of the airframe of JF-17 aircraft would be more than 50 percent. Pakistan Aeronautical Complex, Kamra, has the capacity to roll-out 15-25 aircraft per year.
Pakistan Aeronautical Complex and CATIC IS proud to offer a cost-effective, highly potent, multi-role combat aircraft
which is capable of meeting the challenges of present and future warfare. APP
The Russian News Agency Ria Novosti adds:
Islamabad will put its JF-17 Thunder fighter aircraft on sale at the Farnborough Air Show near London, a Pakistani TV channel said on Monday.
According to a senior source, Turkey and a range of Middle East and African states are interested in the fighters. The money from any sales will be steered into the country’s air force.
The JF-17 Thunder is a lightweight tactic multirole supersonic combat aircraft jointly developed by the Pakistan Aeronautical Complex and the Chinese Chengdu Aircraft Industries Corporation.
About 50% of the on-board equipment and avionics for the fighter is manufactured in Pakistan at the Kamra plant, while the rest of the assembly parts come from China.
The Farnborough Air Show, one of the most preeminent global aviation events, will be held from July 19 – 25. The first five days of the show will be dedicated to concluding deals and the exhibition will then be open to the public over the weekend. NEW DELHI, July 19 (RIA Novosti)
Outlook India adds.
China and Pakistan have reportedly signed a memorandum of understanding to develop a stealth version of a light-weight fighter aircraft being jointly produced by them…
JF-17 Thunder, also known as FC-1, being jointly built by Kamra-based Pakistan Aeronautical Complex (PAC) and Chengdu Aerospace Company (CAC) today made its first appearance at an international air show having flown in here after making refueling stops in Saudi Arabia and Turkey.
The plane, which has been in development in one form or another since 1991, is a symbol of cooperation between China and Pakistan and the first assembled version brought out by the Kamra plant, delivered in November last year, according to ‘Show News,’ a special issue of defence journal Aviation Week for the Farnborough Air Show.
The two (countries) have also reportedly signed a memorandum of understanding to develop a stealth variant of the JF-17 Thunder,” it said.
The journal said that Pakistan Air Force (PAK) is expected to acquire around 250 JF-17s, but this may be a split of 100 in the JF-17 configuration, being displayed at the air show here, and 150 of the stealth multi-role combat aircraft (MCRA) between 2015 and 2025.
A Russian-built Klimov RD-93 engine — a specialised single-engine fighter variant of the Mig 29’s RS-33 powerplant, powers the plane. The first prototype of the warplane flew in 2003 and the first two Chinese-made versions were handed over to the PAF in March 2007.
Show organisers said that the two JF-17 fighter planes would not fly as part of the air show. “The aircraft has not completed its full release to service in Pakistan,” the journal said, quoting a member of the flight control committee.
“Although that full release is only month away, the PAF is also today in what is for them new territory. Farnborough is their very first event of this kind ever,” it said. FILED ON: JUL 19, 2010 23:01 IST. Outlook India
Arabian Aerospace adds:
Both Pakistan and China are keen to export the fighter, which they tout as a low-cost alternative replace aged Northrop F-5s and Lockheed Martin F-16s. Pakistan could have around 28 JF-17s in service by year-end, and is planning to eventually operate up to 250.
China National Aero-Technology Import & Export, which markets Chinese-made military aviation products globally, is in talks with around six potential customers, while the Pakistani government has also held initial discussions with others.
“China wants to use the JF-17 as part of its plan to become a significant player in the global military aviation market, while Pakistan is keen for exports that will help it to reduce its unit cost at its indigenous assembly plants,” says an industry source.
“Negotiations have been ongoing for a while now and they will continue at Farnborough, which is a great opportunity to show off what the aircraft
can do.”
Industry sources add that China has held talks with countries including the Democratic Republic of Congo, Nigeria, the Philippines, Sri Lanka, Sudan and Venezuela, while Pakistani officials have held discussions with Egypt and Turkey.
A customer that commits to a “significant number of aircraft” could get help to set up an indigenous assembly plant if it is keen to help its domestic industry, say officials. This is similar to the arrangement with Pakistan for the JF-17 and a Chinese deal with Egypt for the Hongdu K-8 trainer and light attack aircraft several years ago.
According to flightglobal, getting a suitable engine could be a potential hurdle, however, with Russia unwilling to allow China to use the Klimov RD-93 engine beyond the aircraft’s current buyers. China’s Guizhou Aircraft has been developing the WS-13 Taishan for the fighter for the past 10 years, and a JF-17 reportedly made a test flight using the new powerplant in March. But it is understood the company is still not ready for mass production of the engine.
Defense News says that there is no problem with the supply of RD-93 engines for the Pakistani JF-17 Thunder.
“We have a contract for the supply of 100 engines, we have signed an agreement for the eventual supply of 500 engines, and we believe that is still on course,” said the official from the China National Aero-Technology Import and Export agency (CATIC). “I have not seen any instruction to stop this. We have nothing through official channels, and believe the engine is still an option for exported aircraft.”
The official spoke at the Farnborough Air Show, where the JF-17 made its first static display appearance at an international air show.
By “>TOM KINGTON, FARNBOROUGH, Britain – An official at the Chinese export agency marketing the Chinese JF-17/FC-1 fighter says Russia has given no signal that it will interrupt the flow of the RD-93 engine it makes for the aircraft.
Earlier this month, Sukhoi general director Mikhail Pogosyan had appealed to his government to block the supply of RD-93s, which are built by Chernyshyov Machine-building Enterprise. Russian aircraft exports were being harmed by Chinese competition, Pogosyan had warned.
The aircraft has been sold to the Pakistani Air Force, which flew to Farnborough two of the 16 aircraft it has received.
“It is the first time we put the aircraft out there so we can get feedback,” said a Pakistan Air Force official, describing the $20 million JF-17. “For cost and capabilities, there is no equivalent.”
The CATIC official said that talks were underway with “four to six” potential export customers. Pilots from those nations had been testflying the aircraft in China, he said.
“We expect the first contracts in a year or two,” the official said.
The JF-17 will not fly at Farnborough, but is slated to give a flight demonstration at the Zhuhai Air Show in November, the official said.
Despite Bharati propoganda, there is no issue of getting RD-93 engines from Russia. The successful trials of WS-13 have already happened last year, and there are JF-17 Thunder prototypes flying with WS-13s. Pakistan is also building a version of WS-13 which would be totally indigenous.
The JF-17 Thunder will be built in blocks of 50 planes with each block more advanced than the last one. The first blocks were planned to be built with the RD-93 (500 planned this way). As time moves on, the JF-17 Thunders will be built with the WS-13. As exports catch up with production–money will be ploughed into the PAF R&D to build new engines and new versions of the JF-17 Thunder. As written before, the Stealth version of the JF-17 Thunder is already in the works.
Pakistan is already working on the FC-20 the next generation fighter. So JF-17s will be the mainstay and be exported, while FC-20 will be the new fighter for the PAF. Pakistan has redesigned the J-10 as the J-10B which is a totally different plane based on Pakistan’s exposure to Western technology–the secret ingredient that China does not have.
With experience from the F-16s Block 52, Pakistan is setting up a regional service center. The profits will go in a new generation of avionics.
* Islamabad will put its JF-17 Thunder fighter aircraft on sale at the Farnborough Air Show near London, a Pakistani TV channel said on Monday.
* The Farnborough Air Show, one of the most preeminent global aviation events, will be held from July 19 – 25. The first five days of the show will be dedicated to concluding deals and the exhibition will then be open to the public over the weekend. Ria Novosti
* According to a senior source, Turkey and a range of Middle East and African states are interested in the fighters. The money from any sales will be steered into the country’s air force. Ria Novosti
* Sudan, Egypt or Turkey could be the first MENA region customers for the Chengdu/Pakistan Aeronautical Complex (PAC) JF-17 fighter, which is making its Western air show debut at Farnborough. Araian Aerospace
* The JF-17 aircraft will be produced in blocks of 50 aircraft each where every succeeding block would be an upgraded version of the preceding block. APP
* The aircraft has been co-developed and co-produced by Pakistan Air Force and China Aviation Technology Import and Export Corporation (CATIC).APP
* China and Pakistan have reportedly signed a memorandum of understanding to develop a stealth version of a light-weight fighter aircraft being jointly produced by them to match MiG-21 warplane, a work horse of the Indian Air Force.Outlook India.
* According to flightglobal, getting a suitable engine could be a potential hurdle, however, with Russia unwilling to allow China to use the Klimov RD-93 engine beyond the aircraft’s current buyers. China’s Guizhou Aircraft has been developing the WS-13 Taishan for the fighter for the past 10 years, and a JF-17 reportedly made a test flight using the new powerplant in March. Arabian Aerospace
* An official at the Chinese export agency marketing the Chinese JF-17/FC-1 fighter says Russia has given no signal that it will interrupt the flow of the RD-93 engine it makes for the aircraft. Defense News
ISLAMABAD, July 19 (APP): Pakistan’s Chief of Air Staff Air Chief Marshall Rao Qamar Suleman has said that the co-development and co-production of JF-17 Thunder Aircraft by Pakistan and China is a success story and the two countries will continue cooperating in the field of Aviations in future. He was speaking on the occasion of Farnbrough Air Show 2010, said a press release issued here on Monday. Pakistan’s two JF-17 Thunder fighter planes are participating in the show. The aircraft has been co-developed and co-produced by Pakistan Air Force and China Aviation Technology Import and Export Corporation (CATIC).
Pakistan Air Force delegation is headed by Air Vice Marshal Muhammad Arif, SI(M), S.Bt. The two aircraft have been flown to the UK by Wing Commander Khalid and Sqn Ldr. Leader Azkaar.
The Chief of Air Staff is currently visiting UK on the invitation of Roya Air Force. The air Chief held meetings with the President CATIC Mr.Li Yu Haiand Vice President Aviation Industry of China (AVIC) Mr. Li Yu Hai and visited joint Stall setup by CATIC and Pakistan Aeronautical Complex Kamra and signed the visitors book.
Pakistan Air Force and CATIC have co-developed and co-produced the JF-17 Thunder aircraft which is being unveiled for the first time at the Farnborough Air Show.
The JF-17 Thunder is an all weather, multi-role, light combat aircraft.
Its design is based on modern concepts of aerodynamics and is equipped with hybrid fly-by-wire flight control system.
The aircraft has a full glass cockpit, excellent man-machine interface and modern self-protection suite, which gives it a good combat potential and ensures its survivability in high threat combat environments. It is equipped with fourth generation avionics systems, wide range of conventional/smart weapons.
Beyond Visual Range & short range air-to-air missiles, and air-to-surface missiles, the aircraft also has a remarkably short
take-off/landing distance that gives it the flexibility to operate from short airfields.
Shortly, the aircraft will also have the air-to-air refuelling capability which will further enhance its combat potential and
employment options.
First proto type of the JF-17 aircraft flew in September,2003. After flight testing, a Small Batch of 08 aircraft was produced in year 2007 and ,finally, serial production of the aircraft was started in Pakistan in the year 2009. So far 16 aircraft have been produced.
The JF-17 aircraft will be produced in blocks of 50 aircraft each where every succeeding block would be an upgraded version of the preceding block.
Pakistan’s share in co-production of the airframe of JF-17 aircraft would be more than 50 percent. Pakistan Aeronautical Complex, Kamra, has the capacity to roll-out 15-25 aircraft per year.
Pakistan Aeronautical Complex and CATIC IS proud to offer a cost-effective, highly potent, multi-role combat aircraft
which is capable of meeting the challenges of present and future warfare. APP
The Russian News Agency Ria Novosti adds:
Islamabad will put its JF-17 Thunder fighter aircraft on sale at the Farnborough Air Show near London, a Pakistani TV channel said on Monday.
According to a senior source, Turkey and a range of Middle East and African states are interested in the fighters. The money from any sales will be steered into the country’s air force.
The JF-17 Thunder is a lightweight tactic multirole supersonic combat aircraft jointly developed by the Pakistan Aeronautical Complex and the Chinese Chengdu Aircraft Industries Corporation.
About 50% of the on-board equipment and avionics for the fighter is manufactured in Pakistan at the Kamra plant, while the rest of the assembly parts come from China.
The Farnborough Air Show, one of the most preeminent global aviation events, will be held from July 19 – 25. The first five days of the show will be dedicated to concluding deals and the exhibition will then be open to the public over the weekend. NEW DELHI, July 19 (RIA Novosti)
Outlook India adds.
China and Pakistan have reportedly signed a memorandum of understanding to develop a stealth version of a light-weight fighter aircraft being jointly produced by them…
JF-17 Thunder, also known as FC-1, being jointly built by Kamra-based Pakistan Aeronautical Complex (PAC) and Chengdu Aerospace Company (CAC) today made its first appearance at an international air show having flown in here after making refueling stops in Saudi Arabia and Turkey.
The plane, which has been in development in one form or another since 1991, is a symbol of cooperation between China and Pakistan and the first assembled version brought out by the Kamra plant, delivered in November last year, according to ‘Show News,’ a special issue of defence journal Aviation Week for the Farnborough Air Show.
The two (countries) have also reportedly signed a memorandum of understanding to develop a stealth variant of the JF-17 Thunder,” it said.
The journal said that Pakistan Air Force (PAK) is expected to acquire around 250 JF-17s, but this may be a split of 100 in the JF-17 configuration, being displayed at the air show here, and 150 of the stealth multi-role combat aircraft (MCRA) between 2015 and 2025.
A Russian-built Klimov RD-93 engine — a specialised single-engine fighter variant of the Mig 29’s RS-33 powerplant, powers the plane. The first prototype of the warplane flew in 2003 and the first two Chinese-made versions were handed over to the PAF in March 2007.
Show organisers said that the two JF-17 fighter planes would not fly as part of the air show. “The aircraft has not completed its full release to service in Pakistan,” the journal said, quoting a member of the flight control committee.
“Although that full release is only month away, the PAF is also today in what is for them new territory. Farnborough is their very first event of this kind ever,” it said. FILED ON: JUL 19, 2010 23:01 IST. Outlook India
Arabian Aerospace adds:
Both Pakistan and China are keen to export the fighter, which they tout as a low-cost alternative replace aged Northrop F-5s and Lockheed Martin F-16s. Pakistan could have around 28 JF-17s in service by year-end, and is planning to eventually operate up to 250.
China National Aero-Technology Import & Export, which markets Chinese-made military aviation products globally, is in talks with around six potential customers, while the Pakistani government has also held initial discussions with others.
“China wants to use the JF-17 as part of its plan to become a significant player in the global military aviation market, while Pakistan is keen for exports that will help it to reduce its unit cost at its indigenous assembly plants,” says an industry source.
“Negotiations have been ongoing for a while now and they will continue at Farnborough, which is a great opportunity to show off what the aircraft
can do.”
Industry sources add that China has held talks with countries including the Democratic Republic of Congo, Nigeria, the Philippines, Sri Lanka, Sudan and Venezuela, while Pakistani officials have held discussions with Egypt and Turkey.
A customer that commits to a “significant number of aircraft” could get help to set up an indigenous assembly plant if it is keen to help its domestic industry, say officials. This is similar to the arrangement with Pakistan for the JF-17 and a Chinese deal with Egypt for the Hongdu K-8 trainer and light attack aircraft several years ago.
According to flightglobal, getting a suitable engine could be a potential hurdle, however, with Russia unwilling to allow China to use the Klimov RD-93 engine beyond the aircraft’s current buyers. China’s Guizhou Aircraft has been developing the WS-13 Taishan for the fighter for the past 10 years, and a JF-17 reportedly made a test flight using the new powerplant in March. But it is understood the company is still not ready for mass production of the engine.
Defense News says that there is no problem with the supply of RD-93 engines for the Pakistani JF-17 Thunder.
“We have a contract for the supply of 100 engines, we have signed an agreement for the eventual supply of 500 engines, and we believe that is still on course,” said the official from the China National Aero-Technology Import and Export agency (CATIC). “I have not seen any instruction to stop this. We have nothing through official channels, and believe the engine is still an option for exported aircraft.”
The official spoke at the Farnborough Air Show, where the JF-17 made its first static display appearance at an international air show.
By “>TOM KINGTON, FARNBOROUGH, Britain – An official at the Chinese export agency marketing the Chinese JF-17/FC-1 fighter says Russia has given no signal that it will interrupt the flow of the RD-93 engine it makes for the aircraft.
Earlier this month, Sukhoi general director Mikhail Pogosyan had appealed to his government to block the supply of RD-93s, which are built by Chernyshyov Machine-building Enterprise. Russian aircraft exports were being harmed by Chinese competition, Pogosyan had warned.
The aircraft has been sold to the Pakistani Air Force, which flew to Farnborough two of the 16 aircraft it has received.
“It is the first time we put the aircraft out there so we can get feedback,” said a Pakistan Air Force official, describing the $20 million JF-17. “For cost and capabilities, there is no equivalent.”
The CATIC official said that talks were underway with “four to six” potential export customers. Pilots from those nations had been testflying the aircraft in China, he said.
“We expect the first contracts in a year or two,” the official said.
The JF-17 will not fly at Farnborough, but is slated to give a flight demonstration at the Zhuhai Air Show in November, the official said.
