China No. 1 Foreign Investor in Bangladesh, New Official Figures Show

[Nilgiri]

10 years ago that might by true, but if you say now then your mind is stuck in the past.

He refuses anything exists quality wise unless Bangladesh can do it too.

Please try understand.

 

[SBUS-CXK]

He is funny guy. He thinks stitching clothes is the same value/difficulty as assembling cars even. So rest of his credibility (like posting pages and pages of the same 4 storey buildings in Dhaka as some skyscraper miracle) just natural consequence of that.

I am not even kidding:

Please read the original post in all its splendour lol:

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/indi...ses-to-bangladesh.264542/page-27#post-7468277

Sewing and stitching is INFINITELY more of a critical and precision industry than auto manufacturing. Just try to comprehend that....and you will also comprehend this sissy crybaby emotion when he sees exactly what China exports to say France...a random western developed market... (composition wise, with level playing field in effect) compared to Bangladesh lol:

https://atlas.media.mit.edu/en/visualize/tree_map/hs92/export/chn/fra/show/2017/

https://atlas.media.mit.edu/en/visualize/tree_map/hs92/export/bgd/fra/show/2017/

(man that green overload!!!! - if only every country had magical LDC globalist feeling 0 tariff overreach - it would solve the worlds problems!)

Because RMG sweatshops (strangely reliant on 0 tariff access for superpower precision industry Bangladesh) are the most advanced high precision industry there is.....please dont peddle any fake news about Chinese quality lol....its just "cheap ebay stuff" compared to mighty "critical precision overload" BD underwear!

@bluesky @Offshore @Jlaw @Dungeness @Chinese-Dragon @sinait @TaiShang @beijingwalker @Marine Rouge @055_destroyer @Feng Leng

indeed. he was funny. always making jokes. he even said that Dhaka is like China's third-tier city. I didn't respond to him. when @bluesky talked about the Dhaka highway or infrastructure. I seldom participate in the discussion.I don't know how to reply. if I say it's rubbish. This will make others sad. if I say it's very good. this will make me sad. btw, I live in the six-tier city...

 

[055_destroyer]

He is funny guy. He thinks stitching clothes is the same value/difficulty as assembling cars even. So rest of his credibility (like posting pages and pages of the same 4 storey buildings in Dhaka as some skyscraper miracle) just natural consequence of that.

I am not even kidding:

Please read the original post in all its splendour lol:

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/indi...ses-to-bangladesh.264542/page-27#post-7468277

Sewing and stitching is INFINITELY more of a critical and precision industry than auto manufacturing. Just try to comprehend that....and you will also comprehend this sissy crybaby emotion when he sees exactly what China exports to say France...a random western developed market... (composition wise, with level playing field in effect) compared to Bangladesh lol:

https://atlas.media.mit.edu/en/visualize/tree_map/hs92/export/chn/fra/show/2017/

https://atlas.media.mit.edu/en/visualize/tree_map/hs92/export/bgd/fra/show/2017/

(man that green overload!!!! - if only every country had magical LDC globalist feeling 0 tariff overreach - it would solve the worlds problems!)

Because RMG sweatshops (strangely reliant on 0 tariff access for superpower precision industry Bangladesh) are the most advanced high precision industry there is.....please dont peddle any fake news about Chinese quality lol....its just "cheap ebay stuff" compared to mighty "critical precision overload" BD underwear!

@bluesky @Offshore @Jlaw @Dungeness @Chinese-Dragon @sinait @TaiShang @beijingwalker @Marine Rouge @055_destroyer @Feng Leng

Soon he will claim sweatshops is more advanced than making semi-conductor and rocket industries. And Bangladesh will take over Silicon Valley with sweatshop, cotton and sewing. American will bow to Bangladesh.

 

[Dungeness]

He is funny guy. He thinks stitching clothes is the same value/difficulty as assembling cars even. So rest of his credibility (like posting pages and pages of the same 4 storey buildings in Dhaka as some skyscraper miracle) just natural consequence of that.

I am not even kidding:

Please read the original post in all its splendour lol:

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/indi...ses-to-bangladesh.264542/page-27#post-7468277

Sewing and stitching is INFINITELY more of a critical and precision industry than auto manufacturing. Just try to comprehend that....and you will also comprehend this sissy crybaby emotion when he sees exactly what China exports to say France...a random western developed market... (composition wise, with level playing field in effect) compared to Bangladesh lol:

https://atlas.media.mit.edu/en/visualize/tree_map/hs92/export/chn/fra/show/2017/

https://atlas.media.mit.edu/en/visualize/tree_map/hs92/export/bgd/fra/show/2017/

(man that green overload!!!! - if only every country had magical LDC globalist feeling 0 tariff overreach - it would solve the worlds problems!)

Because RMG sweatshops (strangely reliant on 0 tariff access for superpower precision industry Bangladesh) are the most advanced high precision industry there is.....please dont peddle any fake news about Chinese quality lol....its just "cheap ebay stuff" compared to mighty "critical precision overload" BD underwear!

@bluesky @Offshore @Jlaw @Dungeness @Chinese-Dragon @sinait @TaiShang @beijingwalker @Marine Rouge @055_destroyer @Feng Leng

The more I know your part of world, the more I am confused about people there. Overly emotional, if I put it mildly. Now our "iron brother" is hunting down Chinese men trying for find a wife there, and Banglis would never let go the victimhood after the Rohingya issue.

If I had to pick a country to invest today, I would choose India, at least I don't have to deal with this prayer issue.

 

[Nilgiri]

The more I know your part of world, the more I am confused about people there. Overly emotional, if I put it mildly. Now our "iron brother" is hunting down Chinese men trying for find a wife there, and Banglis would never let go the victimhood after the Rohingya issue.

If I had to pick a country to invest today, I would choose India, at least I don't have to deal with this prayer issue.

China and India, things get done business wise mostly "behind the scenes" of the media drama etc. There is enough business acumen in both to handle things (basic cash --> investment pressure from doing say trade + contacts worldwide) without needing excessive hand-holding + miracle delivery/results etc....we harness "civilisation" time inherently to ground where we came from and where we feel we need to get to etc.

Mr. Mahindra for example hinted at a huge swathe of Chinese investment coming to India in the next few years (and he has credible input stream for this kind of thing broadly)....and it will also be instrumental in the coming crucial decade (for India esp) I feel as well.

Just remember press/media is the political gamesmanship/emotional stuff mostly....because people read it in their free time etc...it is to take their mind off reality/work somewhat in the end....so its calibrated that way you can say.

Actual stuff materialises by the hard work, actual headwinds and genuine capabilities + inherent attitudes of the market forces and societies in question. It pans out as it does in the end a certain way long term.

The thread you reference was interesting one to read for me too....because I saw this coming some years back.

 

[TaiShang]

He refuses anything exists quality wise unless Bangladesh can do it too.

Please try understand.

Following Pakistan, Bangladesh is the country with the highest finance from the AIIB so far.

The country is in dire need of infrastructure.

If I had to pick a country to invest today, I would choose India, at least I don't have to deal with this prayer issue.

Secular state structure makes India an attractive destination in the region, indeed.

I do not care where it came from, but, I am thankful for the spread of Buddhism in East Asia (via its localized versions). That has protected the region from the full domination of certain other sects.

 

[Bilal9]

10 years ago that might by true, but if you say now then your mind is stuck in the past.

Am I stuck in the past? Who guarantees Chinese quality and how? Certainly not anyone in PDF.

It is a catch 22. Of course I can talk in terms of US market China-made items - what I see at Wal-Mart and Target etc. for general use consumer items. China-made items have become popular because of price only, some of it allegedly artificially made cheaper because of currency manipulation, as well-proven.

China is using American capitalist greed (and also ignorance) as a pure weapon because if a knockoff item is available at half the price on eBay people will buy it in numbers instead of American made. Ultimately most people do not think what is the cost of buying overly cheap product that (has to be) cheaply made, cutting many corners, and will not last as expected.

Sometimes people in the US will do this knowingly, by going to (say) a 99 cent store and buying low quality goods for temporary use.

On the other hand sometimes ignorant people (there is a huge portion of the American population like this) will buy a low quality China-made product because they don't know any better (pot metal item instead of forged steel, which is one-sixth the cost, but plated properly, looks the same). By the time you purchased it (and it promptly broke on the first try) you have been had and out the few dollars you spent. The price of stupidity.

Ultimately all these bad purchases add up. And these will drive US manufacturers out of business.

Quality control is something Chinese manufacturers have almost no idea of, very different from what my experience is on US and Japanese products. The Japanese concepts of Kaizen, TQM (and the good old 'trust' every American has on a reputable local manufacturer) are almost totally not taken seriously by manufacturers in China, the idea seems to be, "slap 'em together, head 'em out the door", with nary a regard for quality checks. I don't know who stamps 'QC' in Chinese products, because ultimately it does not mean anything to the China manufacturers, as everyone there is trying to make a quick buck.

Thanks to social media (and resultant preference for better made items), China will almost never gain a reputation for 'quality' in the US, as I see it. People here are VERY aware of where something is made, they will avoid Chinese products if they know.

Even quality made Chinese products will suffer from this 'Cheap Chinese' reputation. So making quality products in China is a dead-end.

When production costs go up in China, and Chinese products cannot be offered at artificially low prices anymore, that will ultimately spell huge problems for Chinese industry.

Your worst nightmare is here - he is not even laying off with the Japanese (Chinese are fair game),

https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-takes-aim-at-toyota-2017-1

I do not care where it came from, but, I am thankful for the spread of Buddhism in East Asia (via its localized versions). That has protected the region from the full domination of certain other sects.

Talkin' about your country - Myanmar?

 

[beijingwalker]

Am I stuck in the past? Who guarantees Chinese quality and how? Certainly not anyone in PDF.

It is a catch 22. Of course I can talk in terms of US market China-made items - what I see at Wal-Mart and Target etc. for general use consumer items. China-made items have become popular because of price only, some of it allegedly artificially made cheaper because of currency manipulation, as well-proven.

China is using American capitalist greed (and also ignorance) as a pure weapon because if a knockoff item is available at half the price on eBay people will buy it in numbers instead of American made. Ultimately most people do not think what is the cost of buying overly cheap product that (has to be) cheaply made, cutting many corners, and will not last as expected.

Sometimes people in the US will do this knowingly, by going to (say) a 99 cent store and buying low quality goods for temporary use.

On the other hand sometimes ignorant people (there is a huge portion of the American population like this) will buy a low quality China-made product because they don't know any better (pot metal item instead of forged steel, which is one-sixth the cost, but plated properly, looks the same). By the time you purchased it (and it promptly broke on the first try) you have been had and out the few dollars you spent. The price of stupidity.

Ultimately all these bad purchases add up. And these will drive US manufacturers out of business.

Quality control is something Chinese manufacturers have almost no idea of, very different from what my experience is on US and Japanese products. The Japanese concepts of Kaizen, TQM (and the good old 'trust' every American has on a reputable local manufacturer) are almost totally not taken seriously by manufacturers in China, the idea seems to be, "slap 'em together, head 'em out the door", with nary a regard for quality checks. I don't know who stamps 'QC' in Chinese products, because ultimately it does not mean anything to the China manufacturers, as everyone there is trying to make a quick buck.

Thanks to social media (and resultant preference for better made items), China will almost never gain a reputation for 'quality' in the US, as I see it. People here are VERY aware of where something is made, they will avoid Chinese products if they know.

Even quality made Chinese products will suffer from this 'Cheap Chinese' reputation. So making quality products in China is a dead-end.

When production costs go up in China, and Chinese products cannot be offered at artificially low prices anymore, that will ultimately spell huge problems for Chinese industry.

" It's fair to have American pride, we also need to be honest about the reality."

That' the right attitude.

the future of the world technology is made in China

 

[Nilgiri]

Same ole RMG miracle RMG infinite high precision industry is dbling down on his spiel.

Cute.

 

[Bilal9]

The more I know your part of world, the more I am confused about people there. Overly emotional, if I put it mildly. Now our "iron brother" is hunting down Chinese men trying for find a wife there, and Banglis would never let go the victimhood after the Rohingya issue.

If I had to pick a country to invest today, I would choose India, at least I don't have to deal with this prayer issue.

Thank GOD investors care more about their money than you do.

Good Luck with investing in India, where labor costs are double or triple that of Bangladesh.

But wait - there's more!

Their bureaucratic red-tape and labor laws (not to mention patriotic Hindu RSS thugs, who run India now) will make you want to pull out your hair. They don't give a sh*t about foreign investors. Every foreign investor knows about these issues, they invest mostly to supply locally in India.

Back-office is one thing, mass production is something else. Lazy inefficient workers, clockwatchers, you name it, they have it. Manufacturing jobs are highly looked down on in India, that is the LAST job anyone in India wants.

Their logistics also suck compared to Bangladesh. You pay octroi/toll just crossing from one state to the next, of which there is one every couple of hundred miles.

Like I said - Good Luck!

We will be waiting for you in Bangladesh Investment office (BIDA) when you are done.

 

[Nilgiri]

Good Luck with investing in India, where labor costs are double or triple that of Bangladesh.

But what do you get productivity wise for it?

https://www.ilo.org/ilostat/faces/w...3148169892&_afrWindowMode=0&_afrWindowId=null

Their bureaucratic red-tape and labor laws

http://www.doingbusiness.org/en/rankings

Had to scroll down a long way till I found Bangladesh under Guinea-Bissau.

They don't give a sh*t about foreign investors. Every foreign investor knows about these issues, they invest mostly to supply locally.

Market cap says other wise. Why is BD declining this early in comparison over there?

Their logistics also suck compared to Bangladesh.

https://lpi.worldbank.org/international/global

Its getting really tiring to scroll down each time!

Best to just say stuff emotionally like a retard: RMG infinitely high precision industry!

You pay octroi/toll just crossing from one state to the next, of which there is one every couple of hundred miles.

Someone hasn't been keeping up with the news lol. Heard of this thing called GST?

We will be waiting for you in Bangladesh Investment office (BIDA) when you are done.

You will be there a long while. China doesn't really care much for 0 tariff industry hocus pocus feelings....and emotional sorts that just make things up as they go along lol.

Actual numbers and evidence matters.

Yes they do turn up their nose at what kind of strength you have when they see you can muster a total of 2 dollars invested outside per person when you claim stronky stronk that you are "300 billion" GDP by way of exchange rate of one LDC globalist feeling industry (that bears no real relation to your actual consumption pattern inside).

 

[SBUS-CXK]

" It's fair to have American pride, we also need to be honest about the reality."

That' the right attitude.

the future of the world technology is made in China

stop explaining anything to Bangladesh. it's not necessary.

 

[sinait]

Thank GOD investors care more about their money than you do.

Good Luck with investing in India, where labor costs are double or triple that of Bangladesh.

But wait - there's more!

Their bureaucratic red-tape and labor laws (not to mention patriotic Hindu RSS thugs, who run India now) will make you want to pull out your hair. They don't give a sh*t about foreign investors. Every foreign investor knows about these issues, they invest mostly to supply locally in India.

Back-office is one thing, mass production is something else. Lazy inefficient workers, clockwatchers, you name it, they have it. Manufacturing jobs are highly looked down on in India, that is the LAST job anyone in India wants.

Their logistics also suck compared to Bangladesh. You pay octroi/toll just crossing from one state to the next, of which there is one every couple of hundred miles.

Like I said - Good Luck!

We will be waiting for you in Bangladesh Investment office (BIDA) when you are done.

Indians and the Chinese are a good match, if not for relations soured between them by British shenanigans.
At least the South Indians, as their close cooperation can be observed in Singapore.

From what I observed in Singapore, workers from South India work better and are correspondingly paid higher than from Bangladesh.
https://www.asiaone.com/print/News/Latest+News/Singapore/Story/A1Story20121209-388579.html
Hard life, but foreign workers labour on
"Even though they are paid far less than workers from China, Indian and Bangladeshi workers seem less likely to complain."


"Bangladeshi workers seem less likely to complain" most likely because they know they are less productive.
I have seen a Bangladesh worker dig the roads slowly with one hand where others do it with both hands.
Therefore they are mostly assigned less demanding jobs.
In fact there are no Bangladeshi being employed in the construction of our new airport expansion.
So much for Bangladeshi being more productive than the Indians, South Indians I mean.
.

 

[Nike]

He is funny guy. He thinks stitching clothes is the same value/difficulty as assembling cars even. So rest of his credibility (like posting pages and pages of the same 4 storey buildings in Dhaka as some skyscraper miracle) just natural consequence of that.

I am not even kidding:

Please read the original post in all its splendour lol:

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/indi...ses-to-bangladesh.264542/page-27#post-7468277

Sewing and stitching is INFINITELY more of a critical and precision industry than auto manufacturing. Just try to comprehend that....and you will also comprehend this sissy crybaby emotion when he sees exactly what China exports to say France...a random western developed market... (composition wise, with level playing field in effect) compared to Bangladesh lol:

https://atlas.media.mit.edu/en/visualize/tree_map/hs92/export/chn/fra/show/2017/

https://atlas.media.mit.edu/en/visualize/tree_map/hs92/export/bgd/fra/show/2017/

(man that green overload!!!! - if only every country had magical LDC globalist feeling 0 tariff overreach - it would solve the worlds problems!)

Because RMG sweatshops (strangely reliant on 0 tariff access for superpower precision industry Bangladesh) are the most advanced high precision industry there is.....please dont peddle any fake news about Chinese quality lol....its just "cheap ebay stuff" compared to mighty "critical precision overload" BD underwear!

@bluesky @Offshore @Jlaw @Dungeness @Chinese-Dragon @sinait @TaiShang @beijingwalker @Marine Rouge @055_destroyer @Feng Leng

You know, if Bangladesh doesn't like Chinese investment because certain issues just let them be. Maybe they will prefer Arabs investments in Madrasa and religion education sector over Chinese infrastructure and manufacturing ones, meanwhile country like Indonesia is trying hard to get Chinese attention and prioritize them by setting red carpet investments agency in several cities in China for better access and reap billions US dollar FDI and other access to their technology. You know, not much Chinese got positive attitude about Indonesia toward them and the feeling is mutual here because of certain political issues like how our people and government look at their CPC involved in coup in 1965 even the suspicion is still lingering till today and their look down on us because 1998 riots and anti China pogrom in the past, but proffesionalism conduct is at play here resulting in good cooperation between Indonesia China.

 

[TaiShang]

Their bureaucratic red-tape and labor laws (not to mention patriotic Hindu RSS thugs, who run India now) will make you want to pull out your hair. They don't give a sh*t about foreign investors. Every foreign investor knows about these issues, they invest mostly to supply locally in India.

Back-office is one thing, mass production is something else. Lazy inefficient workers, clockwatchers, you name it, they have it. Manufacturing jobs are highly looked down on in India, that is the LAST job anyone in India wants.

Their logistics also suck compared to Bangladesh. You pay octroi/toll just crossing from one state to the next, of which there is one every couple of hundred miles.

I think business will move wherever seems more profitable and safe. In that, each country makes effort to provide better conditions for foreign investment to come and stay.

FDI inflows and retention (profitability) rates of foreign businesses will tell the quality of the country's market conditions. On that, I think most developing countries need to continue upgrades in regulations, logistics and the general business ethics.