China leads resistance to India joining NSG, unless Pakistan is also included

[Delta9]

I guess 16 years later China would be glad for not joining the MTCR.
Sold Ballistic missile DF-21 ro KSA in 2007.

Well they still wanna join.

After several years of the U.S. curtailing its sale of missiles and missile technologies, China announced in November 2000 that it would not help other countries build ballistic missiles capable of delivering nuclear weapons. Beijing, which was a key contributor to Pakistan's missile development, and has in the past provided sensetive technology to countries like North Korea and Iran, also pledged that it would issue a comprehensive list of controlled items requiring government approval before export. That list, however, was not published until August 2002. In 2004, China applied for MTCR membership, and, at the time, voluntarily pledged to follow the regime's export control guidelines. Although China no longer sells complete missile systems and has tightened its export controls, its membership was rejected due to concerns that Chinese entities continued to provide sensitive technologies to countries developing ballistic missiles, such as North Korea.

DF 21 was modified, so that it could not carry nuclear weapons.

 

[Viny]

That's one philosophical way of putting things, sadly its not applicable to the situation at hand. India is desperate for NSG membership and that's the fact. If India wanted friends UN would have sufficed, didn't have to apply at NSG. It's not the Indian endeavors that amused me it's your "subjective twist" of the situation which prompted me to give a response. Anyways it was only humor, i am least concerned with India and it's affairs.

You must be joking, Seriously you think that way?
Same NSG gave Uranium to India breaking its own norms so its other way round NSG needs India.

 

[Hyperion]

As long as the one transferring the tech and the one receiving the tech aren't signatories to MTCR, no one can do shiat about it. Precisely why I said we need to transfer as much as we can from China before they get into MTCR.

China gave DF-3 and DF-21 to KSA and the MTCR squad didn't do a thing .

 

[VCheng]

What sort of source?If you mean the Chinese media then it probably would be in Mandarin, other than that Its there all over the International media. China has made its stance clear in the NSG pre plenary session which took place on the 9th of June 2016........Now i am not certain if the NSG has released the draft of the proceedings.

Let's wait for the formal statements of the NSG in this matter. They will help shed more light on the situation as it stands before the NSG.

 

[jung41]

Any country that supports either India or Pakistan joining earlier than the other is not a friend of world peace.

Ya all contract of peace is awarded to china na

 

[New World]

No Way...

Recently Pakistani officials contacted with Mexico For support in favor of Pakistan...

Yes, she is softening her stance.. its in news.

 

[Asian.Century]

Why China opposes India's NSG membership?


Kiran Jasvanee, iOS Software Engineer at TatvaSoft.
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China is not a member of Missile Technology Control Regime (MTCR), China desperately wants MTCR membership. China has applied for MTCR in 2004 but get denied, because members of MTCR considered its non-proliferation record dodgy.

A US government official told Arms Control Today (ACT) in October 2004, about China’s eligibility. MTCR members were concerned that Chinese entities continued to provide sensitive technologies to countries developing ballistic missiles, Such as North Korea the ACT said. and since the MTCR aims to limit the spread of ballistic missiles and other unmanned delivery systems - that could be used for chemical, biological, and nuclear attacks - selling to North Korea is a definite no-no.

Interestingly, in May 2004 China gained membership to the NSG. whereas many US lawmakers were not agree to support, but republican and Democrats both overruled by US President George W bush, who supported China. Additionally china was a member of Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT), So unfortunately China received NSG consensus in NSG. Whereas only after a months October 2004 meeting, the US imposed proliferation sanctions on eight Chinese companies for accused of missile proliferation, So the door to become a MTCR member became harder and almost impossible to China.

REASON FIRST:

NOW, China likely opposing INDIA’s NSG bid with motive of ‘Allow us into the MTCR and we will not oppose India’s entry into the NSG”.

REASON SECOND:

China is a all weather ally to Pakistan. Pakistan is not having clear non-proliferation record, because A. Q. Khan (Abdul Qadeer Khan) a Pakistani Nuclear Physicist. Proliferation network was established to acquire knowledge on electronics materialsforcentrifuge technology at the ERL by Khan, in the 1970s. This atomic networkwas subsequently used by Libya, North Korea, Iran and China as media reports first surfaced on trade negotiations between China and Pakistan for the sale of(UF6) gas and HEU. So he was responsible for illegal trading of Nuclear Technology overseas. If India becomes a NSG member, India can raise this issue to hurdle Pakistan bid in NSG entry, Where China has concern for his all weather ally Pakistan.

REASON THRID:

Nuclear power in Asia. China acquires Top position in Asia for Nuclear Technology. If India enters to NSG will fluctuate Asian flow on Nuclear Technology, which will adversely effect on Chinese power full position on Asia.

Thanks to US and hard work by our honorable Prime Minister Narendra Modi, India is a member of MTCR, and soon it will be a member of NSG too. The NSG baton is about to change and will be powered by Switzerland soon, Switzerland support to India is seen as genuine and can help counter China’s implacable resistance to India. China will find increasingly very difficult soon to sustain its argument that all non-NPT nations, including Pakistan, should be held at par.

Seoul meeting was half win for India, Pakistan should be extremely disappointed with turn of events. A special envoy Rafael Mariano Grossi has been appointed to look into India’s inclusion in NSG. Rafael Grossi would interact with member states separately and will be reporting to incoming chair Switzerland takes China a lot out of the way.

Now, here is the another bad news for China, Where china fears the same that India will take revenge behalf of what happens in Seoul meeting.

Beijing now fears that the fallout of the NSG outcome could have an impact on a crucial verdict expected soon from the permanent court of Arbitration in the Hague in a case brought by the Philippines concerning China’s territorial reclamation activities in the south china sea.

As things stand, Beijing’s stance flies in the face of the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea (UNCLOS) of which it is a signatory. China’s big fear now is India could use the same ploy that Beijing used in Seoul at the NSG plenary and back the Hague Court’s decision which is likely to go against China, where china to give up land in favour of the Philippines.

China’s worry now is that post its inability to generate global support for its anti-india position on NSG at Seoul, its position at the permanent court at Arbitration at the Hague could meet the same fate, and this time, it could have to pay a very heavy price.