China Leads Race to the Moon

[Shotgunner51]

Well Hollywood in 1969 would be "Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid- on the moon"

LOL ...

 

[bolo]

Sure as long as that moon landing isn't in a Hong Kong studio.

The conspiracy theories were started by Americans and with very valid arguments.

Like I said, wait and see.

 

[Keel]

Hey if people have doubts about the U.S. landing I guess we should all have doubts over any Chinese landing.

Fair's fair you know...

The technology used in the era when the Americans landed on the Moon is beyond comparison to the modern day's technology

When Yutu - our rover landed on the moon, all keen space scientists/ military professionals, were zooming in elsewhere to see if and how far the mission could be accomplished. Yutu's moon landing was unchallenged by any reputable orgs / government afterwards.

The rapid rise of China as a spacefaring nation does not amount to a new space race, but countries across Asia, and established old hands such as the US and Russia, are watching their activities closely. "
China's Jade Rabbit rover makes crucial tracks in space and on Earth | Science | The Guardian

So you are severely biased by your ethnic background and please stop ranting out of frustrations

 

[bolo]

Thanks for your compliment to my country.

You are right, being industrious is not a negative notion. JP and 4 dragons have completed industrialization earlier than mainland China, and now all are advanced economies. China should continue to industrialize, it serves as a strong foundation to further move up ladder

After General Yamamoto visited US, he was shocked by American industrial capability and voted against Pearl Harbour. Today, what a Chinese should see in US/Japan is not industrial capability, but vision, creativity, inspiration, open mindness. We should quickly reform ourselves to allow the best minds to grow, to prosper, allow the bravest spirits to venture and explore the unknown. That's my point, not pessimistic, but carefully optimistic.



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The government is doing that. Do you see any incompetent high ranking CPC members compare to the incompetent clowns (politicians) we have in the west? In China it is very competitive. Next to owning your own company or have a relative own a company, you have to be capable and have high education to land a good job. That is the same as "to allow the best minds to grow, to prosper.."

I'm already seeing that the next wave of entrepreneurs and creative innovators will come from China. If this is 1980, and I told people in 2012 China will be the world's 2nd largest economy. How many people will laugh at me at that time? They are not laughing now.

The technology used in the era when the Americans landed on the Moon is beyond comparison to the modern day's technology

When Yutu - our rover landed on the moon, all keen space scientists/ military professionals, were zooming in elsewhere to see if and how far the mission could be accomplished. Yutu's moon landing was unchallenged by any reputable orgs / government afterwards.

The rapid rise of China as a spacefaring nation does not amount to a new space race, but countries across Asia, and established old hands such as the US and Russia, are watching their activities closely. "
China's Jade Rabbit rover makes crucial tracks in space and on Earth | Science | The Guardian

So you are severely biased by your ethnic background and please stop ranting out of frustrations

If 1960s technology can get people to the moon, you don't think China and European nation can just adopt 60s tech and go to the moon? Obviously something is not right and is baffling young engineers who go to Smithsonian and look at Apollo and asking the same question ,"If they did it in 1967, why can't we do it now?"

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

So you are severely biased by your ethnic background and please stop ranting out of frustrations

lol look who is ranting!!!!!!!

I just make a lighthearted joke about hoping it would not be a movie set (since that was the "in" thing to say about the NASA moon landings) and you fly off the handle!!

Good job!

 

[frequency]

An interesting article, I saw it too, but on the TheDiplomat instead (their coverage and analysis is hit-or-miss and this article was one of the worst I have seen), but thought it was too full of inaccuracies to muster the necessity to comment there.

I wonder why, whenever an article is talking about nuclear fusion, do they never mention the "Lawson Criteria"? It's a very important concept in fusion power generation. Perhaps the casual reader just doesn't have the necessary capacity or attention span to understand?

Lawson Criteria for Nuclear Fusion

Magnetic Nuclear Fusion

Conditions for Fusion

Helium-3 serves no purpose at this point, and even in the future it's still limited. Fusion hasn't even produced enough net energy to be viable as an energy provider and yet we are already talking about 2.5/3rd generation fuels? It seems a bit premature. That, and Helium-3 is hardly the only fuel that can be used for nuclear fusion, so creating a monopoly isn't going to be a thing since alternative fuels render the monopoly ineffective, Deuterium is the current standard. An interesting article, but we have decades more work before fusion becomes a reality, only in 2014 did we see a slight net output... a slight output, not the massive numbers needed to see it become a reality for energy production.

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Scientists Say Their Giant Laser Has Produced Nuclear Fusion : The Two-Way : NPR

The mention of stronger nukes is interesting, but those in existence are already enough to eliminate the human presence on Earth, so are stronger ones really going to be a game-changer? Of course not!

Also, the US is still in the game. SpaceX, NASA, and other US companies as well as international partners and competitors will ensure China never truly has a lead... it will share one.

Dude, what do you expect? China is still a third world country. Their minds is still the past. Let's put it this way, they have just reach puberty.

 

[Shotgunner51]

Dude, what do you expect? China is still a third world country. Their minds is still the past. Let's put it this way, they have just reach puberty.

Wow such a wise post! Must be a "well educated" poster. Which school did you go to?
"Still a third world country" ? According to Alfred Sauvy's classification?
"Their minds is still the past" ... is that Canadian grammar ... and what are you talking about?
"Just reach puberty" ? ... explain that

 

[Established_1965]

You didnt seem to fathom what the OP meant which was augmented by my comment in #14

Thanks for referring to me to your comment, its more appropriate than Diplomat's "Article Title" . Title should have been " China leads in New Space Race " that sounds more applaudable

 

[Keel]

Thanks for referring to me to your comment, its more appropriate than Diplomat's "Article Title" . Title should have been " China leads in New Space Race " that sounds more applaudable

Not at all
In fact I would have said in my earlier comment succinctly the titile is provocative.

We have come a long way despite the cold shoulders. We indeed have done many breakthroughs but China is also not leading in "New Space Race" overall. There are still quite a number of domains where we have to settle for 2nd, 3rd or even lower bests whereas the USA is still ways ahead of the rest such as

1. We have not done anything substantial onto Mars yet
2. The heaviest lift of our rockets right now is still below those of the USA, Russia, Japan
3. GPS' differential positioning system can be as accurate as only 10cm
4. US spy satellites can produce much better imaging on smaller object
5. NASA's Voyager 1 has already left the solar system in 2012 since its launch in 1977 and still navigating deep into the interstellar space. Such momentous feat is unachievable by CNSA now
6. NASA and company have set up a sizeable space station which is still functioning in orbit for its 15th year currently since launch etc

So there is still many Kms for us to cover. We still have to work harder

 

[TaiShang]

Wow such a wise post! Must be a "well educated" poster. Which school did you go to?
"Still a third world country" ? According to Alfred Sauvy's classification?
"Their minds is still the past" ... is that Canadian grammar ... and what are you talking about?
"Just reach puberty" ? ... explain that

He is Indian wearing foreign flag. Ignore him.

 

[opruh]

Dude, what do you expect? China is still a third world country. Their minds is still the past. Let's put it this way, they have just reach puberty.

Canadians and Americans are experiencing second childhood.

 

[OrionHunter]

Space in Images - Missions - Chandrayaan-1

Just found this I will try to find more if I can

Thanks buddy! But there's an album with hundreds of Moon images taken only by Chandrayaan. I'm looking for that!

 

[Kiss_of_the_Dragon]

lol this thread is funny, apprently noone here heard of the Outer Space Treaty signed by all 10 Space exploration nation and 92 other nation...

The treaty stated the exploration of moon and any celestial object should be straightly for the benefit of all mankind and strictly prohibit exploration and ownership of any celestial subject.

As long as those H3 are in the moon, then none of us are able to get them. The US does not just pagamatic about moon resource exploration, but it was outright forbidden...

Iol it US is allowed to mine the moon would you think the moon would have been already mined out by now? Given that there are 40+ years between US landed on the moon and the next landing by other country...lol
Hence , this race can never start as none of us were permitted to start...

Outer Space Treaty - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Sorry to say this but US was busy of making wars and plot for global domination during these 40 years, it didn't have time to think for the moon. so please stop your pretentious claim that US is so lawfull and respect the treaty, if US could unilaterially abolish the ABM treaty and unlawfully take unilaterally military without UN approval, you think it care about outer space treay??? simply US don't have any mean to take this huge moon resource mining project over these 40 years after making huge spending in military for global domination.

When China land and build the moon base, we will do what ever we want including the exploitation of the Helium 3, and US will certainly not the one to declare war with China over this issue...LMAO

 

[FairAndUnbiased]

I agree. As US/Japan have better soil for new ideas, they would continue to inspire and lead the rest of the mankind in space science exploration.

lol wut, Japan has better soil for new ideas? are you serious?

 

[halfilhal]

1. During last Oil Energy Revolution, ppl created cars/ jets / steel ships on the earth
2. During future Nuclear Fusion Energy Revolution, ppl will creat spaceship & Great Space Exploration

It can come true in this 100 years of 21-century ... future everything will now start from the Nuclear Fusion device & Helium-3 on the Moon.
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What? You mean girlies will wear the same skimpy outfits as present even after 100 years. I was thinking they will be hiding their parts with illuminating lights or something.