China justifies construction of road in Sikkim sector, says area not disputed

[manlion]

After border face-off, China justifies construction of road in Sikkim sector, says area not under border disputes

Beijing: China on Wednesday justified the construction of a road in the Sikkim sector, saying the area "undoubtedly" is located on its side of the border as per the 1890 Sino-British Treaty.

"According to the treaty, 'zhe' is the ancient name of Sikkim," Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman Lu Kang said in a statement.

"As per this treaty, the area over which the Indian army has raised objection is undoubtedly located on the Chinese side of the border," he said.

The statement came a day after the Chinese military accused the Indian army of stopping the construction of the road in what it claims to be China's "sovereign territory" in the Sikkim section of the India-China border. Lu said the Sikkim segment of the China-India border was recognised by both China and India.

"Indian leaders, the Indian government-related documents, the Indian side in the Sino-Indian boundary issue Special Representatives meeting confirmed that the two sides signed the treaty in 1890, the 'Sino-British treaty' and the China-India boundary of Sikkim to have the direction of a consensus," he said.

"Compliance with these treaties and documents is an international obligation that not to be shirked by the Indian side," he added.

Also a hard-hitting article posted on the website of the state-run Global Times tonight on the issue said, "Indian troops' provocation brings disgrace to themselves" and they should be forced to retreat "by all necessary means".

"The Indian government made no objection to the Sikkim section of the China-India border. Allegations of intrusions along the western section of the China-India border often emerge, but face-offs in the Sikkim section are rare. The Nathu La pass in Sikkim was reopened in 2006, because there is no border dispute between China and India over this area," it said.

"It remains unclear whether this flare-up is the fault of low-level Indian troops or a tentative strategic move made by the Indian government," it said.

Whatever the motive is, China must stick to its bottom line. It must force the Indian troops to retreat to the Indian side by all means necessary and China's road construction mustn't be stopped," it said.

As the China-India borderline hasn't been demarcated completely and the two countries have a different understanding about the Line of Actual Control, troops from both sides often stray across in some areas, it said.

"However, almost all frictions are fed to the Indian media by the Indian military which they hype time and again". "China avoids making an issue of the border disputes, which has indulged India's unruly provocations. This time the Indian side needs to be taught the rules," it said. "India cannot afford a showdown with China on border issues. It lags far behind China in terms of national strength and the so-called strategic support for it from the US is superficial," the article said, adding China has no desire to confront India.

"Maintaining friendly ties with New Delhi is Beijing's basic policy. But this must be based on mutual respect. It's not time for India to display arrogance toward China," it said.

http://www.firstpost.com/india/afte...s-area-not-under-border-disputes-3752355.html

 

[NALANDA]

They just getting back in the same coin. China and Chinese policy of creeping acquisition and demographic change has been picked up by India is something to copy paste in the entire area...Including j&k

 

[manlion]

They just getting back in the same coin. China and Chinese policy of creeping acquisition and demographic change has been picked up by India is something to copy paste in the entire area...Including j&k

Sikkim was illegally acquired by India, be grateful to China for recognizing Sikkim as part of India

 

[Nalini]

Sikkim was illegally acquired by India, be grateful to China for recognizing Sikkim as part of India

It was done by referendum. 97.5 % people voted for it to be part of India. The 2.5% includes the neutral ones & some who voted against are just the Kings family & his forced loyals, who were abusing the natives & illtreating other ethnic groups of the state. India has had no problems with Sikkim in last four decades of its merger unlike Tibet, Xinjiang, Mongolia or Baluchistan where there has been continuous civil unrest.

Ask Tibetans who came as refugees & today living in India, They will proudly say they are Indians. They have never created trouble for India unlike Afghans in Pak. One day, If China loses the power it holds today, we will also invade Tibet & rout the Chinese out of the territory & have referendum. If they vote to be with India we will merge it with India like Sikkim or make it an independent state.

 

[aswin]

Any form of imperialism should be dealt with iron fist.

 

[Srinivas]

Chinese are the encroaching the territory, India should ban the Chinese imports.

 

[third eye]

Sikkim was illegally acquired by India, be grateful to China for recognizing Sikkim as part of India

Why should India be grateful ? If the Chinese didnt like it they would have had to lump it.

Having done what they did to Tibet, they are the last to object.

 

[lastone]

It was done by referendum. 97.5 % people voted for it to be part of India. The 2.5% who voted against is just the Kings family & his forced loyals. India has had no problems with Sikkim in last four decades of its merger unlike Tibet, Xinjiang, Baluchistan, where there has been continuous unrest.

One day, If China loses the power it holds today, we will also invade Tibet & rout the Chinese out of the territory & have referendum. If they vote to be with India we will merge it with India like Sikkim or make it an independent state.

Actually its time now that tibetans are rearmed and the restive muslim areas of china are also given some weapons training.
We can route the help through pakistan and let chinese deal with them

 

[Nalini]

Actually its time now that tibetans are rearmed and the restive muslim areas of china are also given some weapons training.
We can route the help through pakistan and let chinese deal with them

China has territorial disputes with all the nations it shares a border with, and eight other countries? The only exceptional is Pakistan who feels happy to be China's slave & has given land to appease. A look into Chinese imperialism and its expansionist designs.

List of the countries which has territorial and border disputes with the great peaceful China:

1. Japan :: Parts of the East China Sea, particularly the Senkaku Islands. Also, on occasion, the Ryukyu Islands, on the grounds that the completely independent Kingdom of Ryukyu was once a vassal state of China. The Kingdom of Ryukyu terminated tributary relations with China in 1874.
   
   
2. Vietnam :: China claims large parts of Vietnam on historical precedent (Ming Dynasty, 1368-1644). Also, Macclesfield Bank, Paracel Islands, parts of the South China Sea and the Spratly Islands.
   
   
3. India :: China illegally occupies 38,000 sq km (Aksai Chin) of land in Jammu & Kashmir. It also holds 5,180 km of Indian territory in Pakistan occupied Kashmir under Sino-Pak agreement of 1963. At the heart of Sino-Indian boundary dispute is the issue of Arunachal Pradesh (90,000 sq km), which China describes as "Southern Tibet". Beijing is demanding that at least the Tawang Tract of Arunachal Pradesh, if not the whole of the state, be transferred to China.
   
   
4. Nepal :: China claims parts of Nepal dating back to the Sino-Nepalese War in 1788-1792. China claims they are part of Tibet, therefore part of China.
   
   
5. North Korea :: Baekdu Mountain and Jiandao. China has also on occasion claimed all of North Korea on historical grounds (Yuan Dynasty, 1271-1368).
   
   
6. The Philippines :: Parts of the South China Sea, particularly Scarborough Shoal and the Spratly Islands. Russia :: 160,000 square kilometres still unilaterally claimed by China, despite China signing several agreements. Singapore :: Parts of the South China Sea.
   
   
7. South Korea :: Parts of the East China Sea. China has also on occasion claimed all of South Korea on historical grounds (Yuan Dynasty, 1271-1368).
   
   
8. Bhutan :: Bhutanese enclaves in Tibet, namely Cherkip Gompa, Dho, Dungmar, Gesur, Gezon, Itse Gompa, Khochar, Nyanri, Ringung, Sanmar, Tarchen and Zuthulphuk. Also Kula Kangri and mountainous areas to the west of this peak, plus the western Haa District of Bhutan.
   
   
9. Taiwan :: China claims all of Taiwan, but particular disputes are: Macclesfi eld Bank, Paracel Islands, Scarborough Shoal, parts of the South China Sea and the Spratly Islands. The Paracel Islands, also called Xisha Islands in Vietnamese, is a group of islands in the South China Sea whose sovereignty is disputed among China, Taiwan and Vietnam disputes with Burma.
   
   
10. Kazakhstan :: There are continual unilateral claims by China on Kazakhstan territory, despite new agreements, in China's favour signed every few years.
    
    
11. Laos :: China claims large areas of Laos on historical precedent (China's Yuan Dynasty, 1271-1368).
    
    
12. Brunei :: Over Spratly Islands. The Spratly Islands is a disputed group of more than 750 reefs, islets, atolls, cays, and islands in the South China Sea. About 45 islands are occupied by small numbers of military forces from the People's Republic of China, Taiwan, Vietnam, the Philippines, and Malaysia. Brunei has also claimed an exclusive economic zone in the southeastern part of the Spratlys encompassing just one area of small islands on Louisa Reef. This has led to escalating tensions.
    
    
13. Tajikistan :: Chinese claims based on historical precedent (Qing Dynasty, 1644-1912).
    
    
14. Cambodia :: China has, on occasion, claimed parts of Cambodia on historical precedent (China's Ming Dynasty, 1368-1644). Indonesia :: Parts of the South China Sea.
    
    
15. Kyrgyzstan :: China claims the majority of Kyrgyzstan on the grounds that it was unfairly forced to cede the territory (which it had formerly conquered) to Russia in the 19th century.
    
    
16. Mongolia :: China claims all of Mongolia on historical precedent (Yuan Dynasty, 1271-1368). In fact, Mongolia, under Genghis Khan, occupied China.
    
    
17. Afghanistan :: Afghan province of Bahdakhshan (despite a bilateral treaty of 1963, China still encroaches on Afghan territory).
18. Malaysia :: Malaysia has generally played it safe when defending its national interests, usually by conventional diplomatic channels. In the context of the South China Sea, eleven maritime features in it are the subject of disputed claims. Malaysia lays claim to eight of those maritime features, the most important being Swallow Reef, the rocks forming Erica Reef, Investigator Shoal, and Mariveles ReefOver Parts of the South China Sea, particularly the Spratly Islands.
19. Indonesia :: Jakarta has objected to China's inclusion of waters around the Indonesian-ruled Natuna Islands within a "nine-dash line" Beijing marks on maps to show its claim on the body of water.

The only country it settled its border disputes, is Russia, because China cannot bully Russia & its weaponry was & is far advanced to meddle with. Also China wanted Russian tech to build its Military.

No country including America has the will to take on China on its own individually unless pushed. India's boldness is vital for smaller countries to stand up against China to contain it. If America takes the lead, Japan, Vietnam & India will be the countries which can come together to deliver the much required punch to China. At least one joint warning blow is long over due to shake the Chinese hegemony & arrogance. It will put the Chinese in its place & the bullying will stop immediately

 

[grey boy 2]

China has territorial disputes with all the nations it shares a border with, and eight other countries? The only exceptional is Pakistan who feels happy to be China's slave & has given land to appease. A look into Chinese imperialism and its expansionist designs.

List of the countries which has territorial and border disputes with the great peaceful China:

1. Japan :: Parts of the East China Sea, particularly the Senkaku Islands. Also, on occasion, the Ryukyu Islands, on the grounds that the completely independent Kingdom of Ryukyu was once a vassal state of China. The Kingdom of Ryukyu terminated tributary relations with China in 1874.
   
   
2. Vietnam :: China claims large parts of Vietnam on historical precedent (Ming Dynasty, 1368-1644). Also, Macclesfield Bank, Paracel Islands, parts of the South China Sea and the Spratly Islands.
   
   
3. India :: China illegally occupies 38,000 sq km (Aksai Chin) of land in Jammu & Kashmir. It also holds 5,180 km of Indian territory in Pakistan occupied Kashmir under Sino-Pak agreement of 1963. At the heart of Sino-Indian boundary dispute is the issue of Arunachal Pradesh (90,000 sq km), which China describes as "Southern Tibet". Beijing is demanding that at least the Tawang Tract of Arunachal Pradesh, if not the whole of the state, be transferred to China.
   
   
4. Nepal :: China claims parts of Nepal dating back to the Sino-Nepalese War in 1788-1792. China claims they are part of Tibet, therefore part of China.
   
   
5. North Korea :: Baekdu Mountain and Jiandao. China has also on occasion claimed all of North Korea on historical grounds (Yuan Dynasty, 1271-1368).
   
   
6. The Philippines :: Parts of the South China Sea, particularly Scarborough Shoal and the Spratly Islands. Russia :: 160,000 square kilometres still unilaterally claimed by China, despite China signing several agreements. Singapore :: Parts of the South China Sea.
   
   
7. South Korea :: Parts of the East China Sea. China has also on occasion claimed all of South Korea on historical grounds (Yuan Dynasty, 1271-1368).
   
   
8. Bhutan :: Bhutanese enclaves in Tibet, namely Cherkip Gompa, Dho, Dungmar, Gesur, Gezon, Itse Gompa, Khochar, Nyanri, Ringung, Sanmar, Tarchen and Zuthulphuk. Also Kula Kangri and mountainous areas to the west of this peak, plus the western Haa District of Bhutan.
   
   
9. Taiwan :: China claims all of Taiwan, but particular disputes are: Macclesfi eld Bank, Paracel Islands, Scarborough Shoal, parts of the South China Sea and the Spratly Islands. The Paracel Islands, also called Xisha Islands in Vietnamese, is a group of islands in the South China Sea whose sovereignty is disputed among China, Taiwan and Vietnam disputes with Burma.
   
   
10. Kazakhstan :: There are continual unilateral claims by China on Kazakhstan territory, despite new agreements, in China's favour signed every few years.
    
    
11. Laos :: China claims large areas of Laos on historical precedent (China's Yuan Dynasty, 1271-1368).
    
    
12. Brunei :: Over Spratly Islands. The Spratly Islands is a disputed group of more than 750 reefs, islets, atolls, cays, and islands in the South China Sea. About 45 islands are occupied by small numbers of military forces from the People's Republic of China, Taiwan, Vietnam, the Philippines, and Malaysia. Brunei has also claimed an exclusive economic zone in the southeastern part of the Spratlys encompassing just one area of small islands on Louisa Reef. This has led to escalating tensions.
    
    
13. Tajikistan :: Chinese claims based on historical precedent (Qing Dynasty, 1644-1912).
    
    
14. Cambodia :: China has, on occasion, claimed parts of Cambodia on historical precedent (China's Ming Dynasty, 1368-1644). Indonesia :: Parts of the South China Sea.
    
    
15. Kyrgyzstan :: China claims the majority of Kyrgyzstan on the grounds that it was unfairly forced to cede the territory (which it had formerly conquered) to Russia in the 19th century.
    
    
16. Mongolia :: China claims all of Mongolia on historical precedent (Yuan Dynasty, 1271-1368). In fact, Mongolia, under Genghis Khan, occupied China.
    
    
17. Afghanistan :: Afghan province of Bahdakhshan (despite a bilateral treaty of 1963, China still encroaches on Afghan territory).
18. Malaysia :: Malaysia has generally played it safe when defending its national interests, usually by conventional diplomatic channels. In the context of the South China Sea, eleven maritime features in it are the subject of disputed claims. Malaysia lays claim to eight of those maritime features, the most important being Swallow Reef, the rocks forming Erica Reef, Investigator Shoal, and Mariveles ReefOver Parts of the South China Sea, particularly the Spratly Islands.
19. Indonesia :: Jakarta has objected to China's inclusion of waters around the Indonesian-ruled Natuna Islands within a "nine-dash line" Beijing marks on maps to show its claim on the body of water.

The only country it settled its border disputes, is Russia, because China cannot bully Russia & its weaponry was & is far advanced to meddle with. Also China wanted Russian tech to build its Military.

No country including America has the will to take on China on its own individually unless pushed. India's boldness is vital for smaller countries to stand up against China to contain it. If America takes the lead, Japan, Vietnam & India will be the countries which can come together to deliver the much required punch to China. At least one joint warning blow is long over due to shake the Chinese hegemony & arrogance. It will put the Chinese in its place & the bullying will stop immediately

How about getting out of your "well" for a change?
China’s approach while resolving the dispute with different countries in different regions has been sharply divergent. As of now, China has settled its border with 12 out of 14 neighbouring countries. While China has offered considerable concessions to the 12 neighbouring countries for securing its frontiers, it seems China is in no hurry to settle its border with India.
From your media http://www.rediff.com/news/column/w...o-sort-border-dispute-with-india/20150601.htm

 

[Tom M]

Sikkim was illegally acquired by India, be grateful to China for recognizing Sikkim as part of India

What law are you talking about ?? The same one which was used by mainland China to annex Tibet ??

If so we are well within our legal rights. LOL

 

[manlion]

Why should India be grateful ? If the Chinese didnt like it they would have had to lump it.

Having done what they did to Tibet, they are the last to object.

not just Sikkim, 50 % of India consist of countries that were either given by British or forcefully occupied by (e.g Goa , Pondicherry, Tamilnadu , Kashmir, Khalistan). Even America accepts Kashmir is an Indian occupied territory

Text of US govt order “In September 2016, Salahuddin vowed to block any peaceful resolution to the Kashmir conflict, threatened to train more Kashmiri suicide bombers and vowed to turn the Kashmir Valley ‘into a graveyard for Indian forces’ “Under Salahuddin’s tenure as senior HM (Hizbul Mujahideen) leader, HM has claimed responsibility for several attacks, including the April 2014 explosives attack in Indian-administered Jammu and Kashmir, which injured 17 people,”

As for Sikkim , regardless how much you Indian gloss over Sikkim - it was an invasion

King Palden Thondup Namgyal, the Chogyal of Sikkim was in his palace on the morning of 6 April, 1975 when the roar of army trucks climbing the steep streets of Gangtok brought him running to the window. There were Indian soldiers everywhere, they had surrounded the palace, and short rapid bursts of machine gun fire could be heard. Basanta Kumar Chhetri, a 19-year-old guard at the palace's main gate, was struck by a bullet and killed-the first casualty of the takeover. The 5,000-strong Indian force didn't take more than 30 minutes to subdue the palace guards who numbered only 243. By 12.45 it was all over, Sikkim ceased to exist as an independent kingdom.

Source: 25 years after SIKKIM- Nepali Times

 

[Tom M]

not just Sikkim, 50 % of India consist of countries that were either given by British or forcefully occupied by (e.g Goa , Pondicherry, Tamilnadu , Kashmir, Khalistan).

LOL, with your logic not even U.S.A, Russia, China or even Pakistan etc. should not exist since all then are amalgamation of a number of nation states or smaller kingdoms previously.

Even America accepts Kashmir is an Indian occupied territory

Text of US govt order “In September 2016, Salahuddin vowed to block any peaceful resolution to the Kashmir conflict, threatened to train more Kashmiri suicide bombers and vowed to turn the Kashmir Valley ‘into a graveyard for Indian forces’ “Under Salahuddin’s tenure as senior HM (Hizbul Mujahideen) leader, HM has claimed responsibility for several attacks, including the April 2014 explosives attack in Indian-administered Jammu and Kashmir, which injured 17 people,”

Twisted logic, where did America termed J & K as Indian occupied territory, they just termed it India administered territory. A big difference in meaning and approach. Moreover Does that change the reality on ground ?? LOL

As for Sikkim , regardless how much you Indian gloss over Sikkim - it was an invasion

King Palden Thondup Namgyal, the Chogyal of Sikkim was in his palace on the morning of 6 April, 1975 when the roar of army trucks climbing the steep streets of Gangtok brought him running to the window. There were Indian soldiers everywhere, they had surrounded the palace, and short rapid bursts of machine gun fire could be heard. Basanta Kumar Chhetri, a 19-year-old guard at the palace's main gate, was struck by a bullet and killed-the first casualty of the takeover. The 5,000-strong Indian force didn't take more than 30 minutes to subdue the palace guards who numbered only 243. By 12.45 it was all over, Sikkim ceased to exist as an independent kingdom.

Source: 25 years after SIKKIM- Nepali Times

You are jut giving the version of the monarch, what about the people of Sikkim ?? Did they ever protested or took up arms against this so called illegal Indian occupation ??? NEVER.

Moreover, I loved your profile picture of Kerala Shapu style BDF, it's my favorite dish. Especially when we have it alongside Kerala's own Kallu.

 

[third eye]

not just Sikkim, 50 % of India consist of countries that were either given by British or forcefully occupied by (e.g Goa , Pondicherry, Tamilnadu , Kashmir, Khalistan). Even America accepts Kashmir is an Indian occupied territory

Was Khalistan ever a country !!

Was Tamil Nadu ever a country !!

Refer bold above, your ' text' says " Administered" .. so whats the point you want to make ??

You need to brush up your history

 

[ashok321]

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