China Is Paying a High Price for Provoking India

[JNUite]

Yes, I know about it. for against China. India decided to boycott the Mumbai Metro.

Mumbai: Tensions with China, Covid hit coastal road tunnel work

The TBM after it was tested In China
MUMBAI: Covid-19 coupled with tensions between India and China have delayed tunnelling work for the underground section of the coastal road here.

Don't worry China isn't getting any new contract and the ones that haven't started yet are getting cancelled. So don't expect this sort of hassles in upcoming projects.

 

[SBUS-CXK]

They don't understand PPP. China is just about twice as big as India in GDP PPP. And India are better adept at adjusting to worsening economic conditions but can CCP?

For India's fragile and single economic structure. How do you adapt to the economic decline by 23%? Rely on Modi's mouth?

does anyone still remember Modi’s 5 trillion economic goal?

 

[SBUS-CXK]

Don't worry China isn't getting any new contract and the ones that haven't started yet are getting cancelled. So don't expect this sort of hassles in upcoming projects.

Oh. Please don't misunderstand me... India has paid the money to us. so we have no worries. You can use that TBM as you like... hope Indian engineers will operate it.

 

[FOOLS_NIGHTMARE]

They don't understand PPP. China is just about twice as big as India in GDP PPP. And India are better adept at adjusting to worsening economic conditions but can CCP?

O really ! You can continue to dwell in your la la land we have no problem in it. The truth of the matter is a normal Indian is living in abject poverty without basic amenities. Your global clout is not that significant as your media portrays. The world still rates India as a backward nation. I have been in your country so dont let me elaborate it further.

 

[IsThisNameAvailable]

Oh. Please don't misunderstand me... India has paid the money to us. so we have no worries. You can use that TBM as you like... hope Indian engineers will operate it.

What we do with TBM is TBD. Dont worry. IF we have paid you, consider it charity. If not, we will pay. We dont need loan or illegitimate money for survival.

 

[Protest_again]

For India's fragile and single economic structure. How do you adapt to the economic decline by 23%? Rely on Modi's mouth?

does anyone still remember Modi’s 5 trillion economic goal?

I am done explaining what is GDP to CCP bots. It is the measure of economic activity in a given period. How do you expect economic activity in a quarter when India was completely shut down on the account of China virus? We would experience degrowth, that should be obvious to anybody with a brain. But only bots would ignore the circumstances to those GDP numbers and assume that India is failing economically. Lol.

Look for GDP statistics for same quarter next year, India would experience a growth of over 30% to cover for this degrowth. This will happen because people would do their normal economic activity (GDP) in that quarter unlike this year.

 

[IsThisNameAvailable]

Chinese should feel a bit of shame when talking about declining economy of India or the world in general.

The Chinese Virus has caused more damage to the world than may be the World Wars. Stooges & Cheerleaders may still cheer you, but expectation of a bit of shame from China is not exactly out of place

 

[Aryan0395]

ok then why are you crying?

occupied own mountain positions? that's one brave move. nobody expected this from India. give me some minutes guys i'm going to occupy my own toilet. lol

after doklam standoff, china built infra on its land that it only used to patrol. Similarly, India never kept permanent position on these mountain tops but now it does.
That's what he is saying.
Apply some brain when reading stuff which comes from people who work in think tanks.

 

[Death Professor]

Indians and their mental gymnastics. When it comes to Pakistan, they will only compare India interms of nominal figures and won't even touch PPP. One can see the discussions where these go-mutra bakhts were talking about nominal GDP contraction due to US dollar price change in 2018-2019. At that time PPP didn't change a bit but was showing growth unlike nominal, and these same go-mutra bakhts were commenting that PPP is an insignificant stat. Now just because it suits their narrative PPP suddenly has become the go to benchmark for comparing economies. Brilliant, just brilliant.

 

[Pakistan Space Agency]

No, I was trying to make a simpler point that If 7x smaller (10X in economy) Pakistan can dare mess with India at whatever cost that entails what stops India from defending itself from China which is merely less than three times bigger in economy. @Baby Leone @FOOLS_NIGHTMARE

Any reason why India cannot overpower 7x smaller Pakistan?

India has 72-years of war experience with Pakistan, yet it got pummled by Pakistan on 27th February last year.

How can India survive against an adversary which in comparison to Pakistan is more bigger and far more powerful?

It's not like India has experience fighting air battles with the Soviet Union or tiring out NATO in its neighbourhood.

 

[Death Professor]

No, I was trying to make a simpler point that If 7x smaller (10X in economy) Pakistan can dare mess with India at whatever cost that entails what stops India from defending itself from China which is merely less than three times bigger in economy. @Baby Leone @FOOLS_NIGHTMARE

The simple reason is we know you from ins and out. You don't know the Chinese. Former DGISPR once said, You can't surprise us, we studied you all our life, wait for our surprise(Occasion 27th Feb). 2) Our military's budget is 11 B$, your's is 70 B$, sure it is 7 times ours but ours is only targeted vs one prime enemy and that is you. Meanwhile you have to spend so much on your navy to have some kind of standing in the waters, your ariforce has to cover so much are that even 5 rafales or 32 or even more wouldn't change the current status. Your army has to spend so much on pensions, so much on salaries. So with all these considerations in mind. You can only match Pakistan and not China. For you to match China you have to spend like them.

On top of that China is your highest trading partner, unlike Pak-India trade relations. with trade imbalance of -52 B$ infavor of China. You can't live without them. What you gonna import stuff from 1st world world countries with 1st world prices?

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

And India are better adept at adjusting to worsening economic conditions

Well, of course. When you already have hundreds of millions in poverty, defecating in the open, farmers committing suicide during 'boom cycles', a few more million being added to the above during 'bust cycles' is not exactly going to set off massive nationwide riots and government overthrows.

Add in the BJP's clever deflection of its failures by resorting to religious extremism and hate-mongering targeting its own minorities & the State of Pakistan, and of course one could argue that 'India is better adept at adjusting to worsening economic conditions'.

It's when the majority is used to a higher standard of living and has developed higher expectations that 'worsening economic conditions' can have a more deleterious impact on the incumbent government.

 

[Khan vilatey]

China Is Paying a High Price for Provoking India
Sep 23, 2020BRAHMA CHELLANEY


For Xi Jinping, the COVID-19 pandemic – which has preoccupied the world’s governments for months – seemed like an ideal opportunity to make quick progress on his expansionist agenda. But by provoking India, he may have bitten off more than he can chew.
NEW DELHI – China’s foreign minister, Wang Yi, recently declared that aggression and expansionism have never been in the Chinese nation’s “genes.” It is almost astonishing that he managed to say it with a straight face.

Aggression and expansionism obviously are not genetic traits, but they have defined President Xi Jinping’s tenure. Xi, who in some ways has taken up the expansionist mantle of Mao Zedong, is attempting to implement a modern version of the tributary system that Chinese emperors used to establish authority over vassal states: submit to the emperor, and reap the benefits of peace and trade with the empire.

For Xi, the COVID-19 pandemic – which has preoccupied the world’s governments for months – seemed like an ideal opportunity to make quick progress on his agenda. So, in April and May, he directed the People’s Liberation Army (PLA) to launch furtive incursions into the icy borderlands of India’s Ladakh region, where it proceeded to establish heavily fortified encampments.
It wasn’t nearly as clever a plan as Xi probably thought. Far from entrenching China’s regional preeminence, it has intensified the pushback by Indo-Pacific powers, which have deepened their security cooperation. This includes China’s most powerful competitor, the United States, thereby escalating a bilateral strategic confrontation that has technological, economic, diplomatic, and military dimensions. The specter of international isolation and supply disruptions now looms over China, spurring Xi to announce plans to hoard mammoth quantities of mineral resources and agricultural products.

But Xi’s real miscalculation on the Himalayan border was vis-à-vis India, which has now abandoned its appeasement policy toward China. Not surprisingly, China remains committed to the PLA’s incursions, which it continues to portray as defensive: late last month, Xi told senior officials to “solidify border defenses” and “ensure frontier security” in the Himalayan region.
India, however, is ready to fight. In June, after the PLA ambushed and killed Indian soldiers patrolling Ladakh’s Galwan Valley, a hand-to-hand confrontation led to the deaths of numerous Chinese troops – the first PLA troops killed in action outside United Nations peacekeeping operations in over four decades. Xi was so embarrassed by this outcome that, whereas India honored its 20 fallen as martyrs, China refuses to admit the precise death toll.

The truth is that, without the element of surprise, China is not equipped to dominate India in a military confrontation. And India is making sure that it will not be caught off guard again. It has now matched Chinese military deployments along the Himalayan frontier and activated its entire logistics network to transport the supplies needed to sustain the troops and equipment through the coming harsh winter.

In another blow to China, Indian special forces recently occupied strategic mountain positions overlooking key Chinese deployments on the southern side of Pangong Lake. Unlike the PLA, which prefers to encroach on undefended border areas, Indian forces carried out their operation right under China’s nose, in the midst of a major PLA buildup.

If that were not humiliating enough for China, India eagerly noted that the Special Frontier Force (SFF) that spearheaded the operation comprises Tibetan refugees. The Tibetan soldier who was killed by a landmine in the operation was honored with a well-attended military funeral.
India’s message was clear: China’s claims to Tibet, which separated India and China until Mao Zedong’s regime annexed it in 1951, are not nearly as strong as it pretends they are. Tibetans view China as a brutally repressive occupying power, and those eager to fight the occupiers flocked to the SFF, established after Mao’s 1962 war with India.

Here’s the rub: China’s claims to India’s vast Himalayan borderlands are based on their alleged historical links to Tibet. If China is merely occupying Tibet, how can it claim sovereignty over those borderlands?


In any case, Xi’s latest effort to gain control of territories that aren’t China’s to take has proved far more difficult to complete than it was to launch. As China’s actions in the South China Sea demonstrate, Xi prefers asymmetrical or hybrid warfare, which combines conventional and irregular tactics with psychological and media manipulation, disinformation, lawfare, and coercive diplomacy.
But while Xi managed to change the South China Sea’s geopolitical map without firing a shot, it seems clear that this will not work on China’s Himalayan border. Instead, Xi’s approach has placed the Sino-Indian relationship – crucial to regional stability – on a knife edge. Xi wants neither to back down nor to wage an open war, which is unlikely to yield the decisive victory he needs to restore his reputation after the border debacle.



China might have the world’s largest active-duty military force, but India’s is also massive. More important, India’s battle-hardened forces have experience in low-intensity conflicts at high altitudes; the PLA, by contrast, has had no combat experience since its disastrous 1979 invasion of Vietnam. Given this, a Sino-Indian war in the Himalayas would probably end in a stalemate, with both sides suffering heavy losses.

Xi seems to be hoping that he can simply wear India down. At a time when the Indian economy has registered its worst-ever contraction due to the still-escalating COVID-19 crisis, Xi has forced India to divert an increasing share of resources to national defense. Meanwhile, ceasefire violations by Pakistan, China’s close ally, have increased to a record high, raising the specter of a two-front war for India. As some Chinese military analysts have suggested, Xi could use America’s preoccupation with its coming presidential election to carry out a quick, localized strike against India without seeking to start a war.

But it seems less likely that India will wilt under Chinese pressure than that Xi will leave behind a legacy of costly blunders. With his Himalayan misadventure, he has provoked a powerful adversary and boxed himself into a corner.

China Is Paying a High Price for Provoking India | by Brahma Chellaney - Project Syndicate

Brahma Chellaney predicts that with Indian appeasement at an end, Xi Jinping will regret his aggression in the Himalayas.

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[SBUS-CXK]

What we do with TBM is TBD. Dont worry. IF we have paid you, consider it charity. If not, we will pay. We dont need loan or illegitimate money for survival.

Oh. are you serious? so how much did India borrow from AIIB?

Oh, the Yankee virus or Trump virus has indeed seriously hurt the Indian economy. . . but! ! ! Before the Yankees virus massacre people of the world. India's economy has fallen severely! ! ! LOL. Indian memory. It's like Indian IQ! What a shameless and mean, inferior Yankee and smelly Indian.

 

[madlemon50]

They don't understand PPP. China is just about twice as big as India in GDP PPP. And India are better adept at adjusting to worsening economic conditions but can CCP?

Blablabla another delusional crap, is that your country remains a cesspool?

Chinese should feel a bit of shame when talking about declining economy of India or the world in general.

The Chinese Virus has caused more damage to the world than may be the World Wars. Stooges & Cheerleaders may still cheer you, but expectation of a bit of shame from China is not exactly out of place

Oh shut up you twat, blame blame blame is all your twats can do. Virus or not india is a cesspool, you have more than 70 years YES more than 70 years to transform your crap hole but today its still a cesspool. You should be fortunate to have that virus to cleanse away your fifth, perhaps that will stop you twats from raping cow eh? I can't help but laugh at how the indian virus explodes across your cesspool infested continent, its an delight that's for sure.