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China Is Paying a High Price for Provoking India

This will sting the Indian ego after getting thoroughly humiliated by China and losing territory to China. Their economy is in complete tatters and COVID has caused a catastrophe. This is going from bad to worse.
 
Any reason why India cannot overpower 7x smaller Pakistan?

India has 72-years of war experience with Pakistan, yet it got pummled by Pakistan on 27th February last year.

How can India survive against an adversary which in comparison to Pakistan is more bigger and far more powerful?

It's not like India has experience fighting air battles with the Soviet Union or tiring out NATO in its neighbourhood.
Any reason why India cannot overpower 7x smaller Pakistan?

Interesting question.
I would give some instances from where you can draw ur own conclusions.

Have asked yourself why mighty China couldn't usurp tiny Taiwan in last 7 decades?

Why US lost to Vietnam and Russia had to move out of Afghanistan?

Why US can't defeat Afghan Taliban?

Or Why US can't do anything about Cuba or North Korea?


In modern times countries live by international rules under UN charter and can't themselves impose militarily on weaker nations.

India is much more powerful country than Pakistan, it's a fact of life like China is more powerful than India. That doesn't mean India can invade and occupy Pakistani territory or China can invade India to occupy its territory and enslave people. That isn't possible in today's time and under UN charter in such a case UN has the mandate to authorize military action against occupying country.

Yes, disputed territories are out of these mandates but any action those places can lead to full scales wars, e,g 1965 war.

India has 72-years of war experience with Pakistan, yet it got pummled by Pakistan on 27th February last year.
Pakistan was cautious enough to publicly declare that they were intentionally not targeting any military or civilian installation in response to Indian attack where India had officially admitted its air force crossed Pakistani airspace to target a camp and kill its citizens who India considered as terrorists. So who pummeled who?[/QUOTE]
 
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True. Due to the China factor is India going to do rapid modernization of Indian military which will further widen military as
nah your words are not only cheap but are WORTHLESS, China have raped your *** in the 60s and many more times by Pakistan, you have more than 70 years but till to this date you have nothing to show, its very clear that you twats country will remain a shithole.
 
China Is Paying a High Price for Provoking India
Sep 23, 2020BRAHMA CHELLANEY


For Xi Jinping, the COVID-19 pandemic – which has preoccupied the world’s governments for months – seemed like an ideal opportunity to make quick progress on his expansionist agenda. But by provoking India, he may have bitten off more than he can chew.
NEW DELHI – China’s foreign minister, Wang Yi, recently declared that aggression and expansionism have never been in the Chinese nation’s “genes.” It is almost astonishing that he managed to say it with a straight face.

Aggression and expansionism obviously are not genetic traits, but they have defined President Xi Jinping’s tenure. Xi, who in some ways has taken up the expansionist mantle of Mao Zedong, is attempting to implement a modern version of the tributary system that Chinese emperors used to establish authority over vassal states: submit to the emperor, and reap the benefits of peace and trade with the empire.

For Xi, the COVID-19 pandemic – which has preoccupied the world’s governments for months – seemed like an ideal opportunity to make quick progress on his agenda. So, in April and May, he directed the People’s Liberation Army (PLA) to launch furtive incursions into the icy borderlands of India’s Ladakh region, where it proceeded to establish heavily fortified encampments.
It wasn’t nearly as clever a plan as Xi probably thought. Far from entrenching China’s regional preeminence, it has intensified the pushback by Indo-Pacific powers, which have deepened their security cooperation. This includes China’s most powerful competitor, the United States, thereby escalating a bilateral strategic confrontation that has technological, economic, diplomatic, and military dimensions. The specter of international isolation and supply disruptions now looms over China, spurring Xi to announce plans to hoard mammoth quantities of mineral resources and agricultural products.

But Xi’s real miscalculation on the Himalayan border was vis-à-vis India, which has now abandoned its appeasement policy toward China. Not surprisingly, China remains committed to the PLA’s incursions, which it continues to portray as defensive: late last month, Xi told senior officials to “solidify border defenses” and “ensure frontier security” in the Himalayan region.
India, however, is ready to fight. In June, after the PLA ambushed and killed Indian soldiers patrolling Ladakh’s Galwan Valley, a hand-to-hand confrontation led to the deaths of numerous Chinese troops – the first PLA troops killed in action outside United Nations peacekeeping operations in over four decades. Xi was so embarrassed by this outcome that, whereas India honored its 20 fallen as martyrs, China refuses to admit the precise death toll.

The truth is that, without the element of surprise, China is not equipped to dominate India in a military confrontation. And India is making sure that it will not be caught off guard again. It has now matched Chinese military deployments along the Himalayan frontier and activated its entire logistics network to transport the supplies needed to sustain the troops and equipment through the coming harsh winter.

In another blow to China, Indian special forces recently occupied strategic mountain positions overlooking key Chinese deployments on the southern side of Pangong Lake. Unlike the PLA, which prefers to encroach on undefended border areas, Indian forces carried out their operation right under China’s nose, in the midst of a major PLA buildup.

If that were not humiliating enough for China, India eagerly noted that the Special Frontier Force (SFF) that spearheaded the operation comprises Tibetan refugees. The Tibetan soldier who was killed by a landmine in the operation was honored with a well-attended military funeral.
India’s message was clear: China’s claims to Tibet, which separated India and China until Mao Zedong’s regime annexed it in 1951, are not nearly as strong as it pretends they are. Tibetans view China as a brutally repressive occupying power, and those eager to fight the occupiers flocked to the SFF, established after Mao’s 1962 war with India.

Here’s the rub: China’s claims to India’s vast Himalayan borderlands are based on their alleged historical links to Tibet. If China is merely occupying Tibet, how can it claim sovereignty over those borderlands?


In any case, Xi’s latest effort to gain control of territories that aren’t China’s to take has proved far more difficult to complete than it was to launch. As China’s actions in the South China Sea demonstrate, Xi prefers asymmetrical or hybrid warfare, which combines conventional and irregular tactics with psychological and media manipulation, disinformation, lawfare, and coercive diplomacy.
But while Xi managed to change the South China Sea’s geopolitical map without firing a shot, it seems clear that this will not work on China’s Himalayan border. Instead, Xi’s approach has placed the Sino-Indian relationship – crucial to regional stability – on a knife edge. Xi wants neither to back down nor to wage an open war, which is unlikely to yield the decisive victory he needs to restore his reputation after the border debacle.



China might have the world’s largest active-duty military force, but India’s is also massive. More important, India’s battle-hardened forces have experience in low-intensity conflicts at high altitudes; the PLA, by contrast, has had no combat experience since its disastrous 1979 invasion of Vietnam. Given this, a Sino-Indian war in the Himalayas would probably end in a stalemate, with both sides suffering heavy losses.

Xi seems to be hoping that he can simply wear India down. At a time when the Indian economy has registered its worst-ever contraction due to the still-escalating COVID-19 crisis, Xi has forced India to divert an increasing share of resources to national defense. Meanwhile, ceasefire violations by Pakistan, China’s close ally, have increased to a record high, raising the specter of a two-front war for India. As some Chinese military analysts have suggested, Xi could use America’s preoccupation with its coming presidential election to carry out a quick, localized strike against India without seeking to start a war.

But it seems less likely that India will wilt under Chinese pressure than that Xi will leave behind a legacy of costly blunders. With his Himalayan misadventure, he has provoked a powerful adversary and boxed himself into a corner.

Indeed! :enjoy:
 
nah your words are not only cheap but are WORTHLESS, China have raped your *** in the 60s and many more times by Pakistan, you have more than 70 years but till to this date you have nothing to show, its very clear that you twats country will remain a shithole.
Man, you are in pain and in urgent need of medical attention. Visit the near physician to get some pain reliever.
 
... That doesn't mean India can invade and occupy Pakistani territory or China can invade India to occupy its territory and enslave people. That isn't possible in today's time and under UN charter ...

China invaded in 5 May 2020 and India officially surrendered on 19 June 2020.

Where was the UN?

Here's India's surrender statement:
"Na koi wahan hamari seema mein ghus aaya hai, na hi koi ghusa hua hai, na hi hamari koi post kisi dusre ke kabze mein hain."

Now, how many Pakistani citizens did India kill on 26th February 2019? We are only aware of a dead crow. Please enlighten us.

Pakistani Prime Minister did declare, "We will not think about retaliation, we will retaliate." Yet, the entire Indian nation found it surprising just 24 hours later when punmmelling retaliation was given in broad daylight.

This guy looks pretty pummelled don't you think. Luckily he was saved by Pakistani Army.

Abhinandan-Varthaman-In-The-Custody-Of-Pakistan.jpg

Do you know which Prime Minister made this statement:
"Agar hamaaray paas aaj Rafale hota, to shahid is say bi nateeja kuchh aur hota."

Do you want some video evidence with that?
 
Do you know which Prime Minister made this statement:
"Agar hamaaray paas aaj Rafale hota, to shahid is say bi nateeja kuchh aur hota."

Do you want some video evidence with that?
Look at the hand gesture, does he look like he is disappointed with results?
No, he is saying ''is say bi nateeja kuchh aur hota" , means it would have been even better.
 
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Look at the hand gesture, does he look like he is disappointed with results?
No, he is saying ''is say bi nateeja kuchh aur hota" , means it would have been even better.

Zabardast. Rafale can do wonders for the Indian Air Force that 230+ Raptors of the East can not do.
 
THis is how it's done in civilized countries where names of brave martyrs who made supreme scarifies are made public and are given due respect on their last journey.

In China, they are only given assurances that i would happen in some yet undecided future date.

Thus far, the Chinese military has not released any information about the deceased. As both a former soldier and current media professional, I understand that this is an expedient move with the aim of not irritating public opinion in the two countries, especially in India. This is Beijing's goodwill. I believe that the dead have been treated with the highest respect in the military, and that the information will eventually be reported to society at the right time, so that heroes can be honored and remembered as they deserve.

-: Hu Xijin, Editor Global Times .
 
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China Is Paying a High Price for Provoking India
Sep 23, 2020BRAHMA CHELLANEY


For Xi Jinping, the COVID-19 pandemic – which has preoccupied the world’s governments for months – seemed like an ideal opportunity to make quick progress on his expansionist agenda. But by provoking India, he may have bitten off more than he can chew.
NEW DELHI – China’s foreign minister, Wang Yi, recently declared that aggression and expansionism have never been in the Chinese nation’s “genes.” It is almost astonishing that he managed to say it with a straight face.

Aggression and expansionism obviously are not genetic traits, but they have defined President Xi Jinping’s tenure. Xi, who in some ways has taken up the expansionist mantle of Mao Zedong, is attempting to implement a modern version of the tributary system that Chinese emperors used to establish authority over vassal states: submit to the emperor, and reap the benefits of peace and trade with the empire.

For Xi, the COVID-19 pandemic – which has preoccupied the world’s governments for months – seemed like an ideal opportunity to make quick progress on his agenda. So, in April and May, he directed the People’s Liberation Army (PLA) to launch furtive incursions into the icy borderlands of India’s Ladakh region, where it proceeded to establish heavily fortified encampments.
It wasn’t nearly as clever a plan as Xi probably thought. Far from entrenching China’s regional preeminence, it has intensified the pushback by Indo-Pacific powers, which have deepened their security cooperation. This includes China’s most powerful competitor, the United States, thereby escalating a bilateral strategic confrontation that has technological, economic, diplomatic, and military dimensions. The specter of international isolation and supply disruptions now looms over China, spurring Xi to announce plans to hoard mammoth quantities of mineral resources and agricultural products.

But Xi’s real miscalculation on the Himalayan border was vis-à-vis India, which has now abandoned its appeasement policy toward China. Not surprisingly, China remains committed to the PLA’s incursions, which it continues to portray as defensive: late last month, Xi told senior officials to “solidify border defenses” and “ensure frontier security” in the Himalayan region.
India, however, is ready to fight. In June, after the PLA ambushed and killed Indian soldiers patrolling Ladakh’s Galwan Valley, a hand-to-hand confrontation led to the deaths of numerous Chinese troops – the first PLA troops killed in action outside United Nations peacekeeping operations in over four decades. Xi was so embarrassed by this outcome that, whereas India honored its 20 fallen as martyrs, China refuses to admit the precise death toll.

The truth is that, without the element of surprise, China is not equipped to dominate India in a military confrontation. And India is making sure that it will not be caught off guard again. It has now matched Chinese military deployments along the Himalayan frontier and activated its entire logistics network to transport the supplies needed to sustain the troops and equipment through the coming harsh winter.

In another blow to China, Indian special forces recently occupied strategic mountain positions overlooking key Chinese deployments on the southern side of Pangong Lake. Unlike the PLA, which prefers to encroach on undefended border areas, Indian forces carried out their operation right under China’s nose, in the midst of a major PLA buildup.

If that were not humiliating enough for China, India eagerly noted that the Special Frontier Force (SFF) that spearheaded the operation comprises Tibetan refugees. The Tibetan soldier who was killed by a landmine in the operation was honored with a well-attended military funeral.
India’s message was clear: China’s claims to Tibet, which separated India and China until Mao Zedong’s regime annexed it in 1951, are not nearly as strong as it pretends they are. Tibetans view China as a brutally repressive occupying power, and those eager to fight the occupiers flocked to the SFF, established after Mao’s 1962 war with India.

Here’s the rub: China’s claims to India’s vast Himalayan borderlands are based on their alleged historical links to Tibet. If China is merely occupying Tibet, how can it claim sovereignty over those borderlands?


In any case, Xi’s latest effort to gain control of territories that aren’t China’s to take has proved far more difficult to complete than it was to launch. As China’s actions in the South China Sea demonstrate, Xi prefers asymmetrical or hybrid warfare, which combines conventional and irregular tactics with psychological and media manipulation, disinformation, lawfare, and coercive diplomacy.
But while Xi managed to change the South China Sea’s geopolitical map without firing a shot, it seems clear that this will not work on China’s Himalayan border. Instead, Xi’s approach has placed the Sino-Indian relationship – crucial to regional stability – on a knife edge. Xi wants neither to back down nor to wage an open war, which is unlikely to yield the decisive victory he needs to restore his reputation after the border debacle.



China might have the world’s largest active-duty military force, but India’s is also massive. More important, India’s battle-hardened forces have experience in low-intensity conflicts at high altitudes; the PLA, by contrast, has had no combat experience since its disastrous 1979 invasion of Vietnam. Given this, a Sino-Indian war in the Himalayas would probably end in a stalemate, with both sides suffering heavy losses.

Xi seems to be hoping that he can simply wear India down. At a time when the Indian economy has registered its worst-ever contraction due to the still-escalating COVID-19 crisis, Xi has forced India to divert an increasing share of resources to national defense. Meanwhile, ceasefire violations by Pakistan, China’s close ally, have increased to a record high, raising the specter of a two-front war for India. As some Chinese military analysts have suggested, Xi could use America’s preoccupation with its coming presidential election to carry out a quick, localized strike against India without seeking to start a war.

But it seems less likely that India will wilt under Chinese pressure than that Xi will leave behind a legacy of costly blunders. With his Himalayan misadventure, he has provoked a powerful adversary and boxed himself into a corner.


Again planning beyond capability. It seems that he has not learner any lesson from Dokalam. India has got an golden opportunity to humiliate China. India should not let China go to save its face. India must ensure that China pays more heavily for its misadventure.
 
THis is how it's done in civilized countries where names of brave martyrs who made supreme scarifies are made public and are given due respect on their last journey.

In China, they are only given assurances that i would happen in some yet undecided future date.



-: Hu Xijin Source, Editor Global Times .
Cheap publicity stunt like how you cesspool dwellers good at, this is how the REAL INDIA bury the commoner,

Pathetic people you loads are.
 
Again planning beyond capability. It seems that he has not learner any lesson from Dokalam. India has got an golden opportunity to humiliate China. India should not let China go to save its face. India must ensure that China pays more heavily for its misadventure.
Bla bla bla looks like you never learn do you? Can you please just open your eyes? You are nothing in the world stage, now I know my words are hurtful to you people but I'm doing a favor for you, I'm teaching you to be a REAL person in life. You are living in a delusional dream, your country don't have have enough toilets for your population, your infrastructure is in ruins, most of your people who most are the lower caste are pitiful poor, you have no industry nothing is made by indians, you have to beg western world to embrace you, and the list goes on.

Learn from your Pakistani brother, they are noble people and live with dignity, please wake up and go back to your cesspool shack and cry and pity yourself then once you done that come out and start working to improve your pitiful hindu cesspool.
 
Oh. are you serious? so how much did India borrow from AIIB?

Oh, the Yankee virus or Trump virus has indeed seriously hurt the Indian economy. . . but! ! ! Before the Yankees virus massacre people of the world. India's economy has fallen severely! ! ! LOL. Indian memory. It's like Indian IQ! What a shameless and mean, inferior Yankee and smelly Indian.
If you are a false flagger, your attempt to hide your reality is failing miserably. You are "Shah se jyada Shah ka Wafadar"
 

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