China is not India's potential enemy: Editor-in-Chief Hu Xijin of Global Times

[Kaniska]

You may want to read the history between 1959-1962.

There may be some valid points as you have mentioned here...Otherwise, what can be a reason to host million of Tibetian refugee in India, knowing well that it will not be considered as a friendly gesture for China...

But the bigger question is that, if also, we have not received or encouraged Tibet people to be hosted in India, can we be friends knowing well that China already occupied part of Jammu and Kashmir? ...Again, i am not trolling here..But based on historical context, i do not find any reason why can not cooexist with each other...India has always have painful history of Islamic invaders attacking our nation but we never have any conflict per say with China in north...Rather, there are lot of good things i read in our history book about China which is very different in modern times...

 

[padamchen]

They are just trying to makes us complacent and then strike. This was the same trick used against nehru, talk panchsheel and then stab in the back. Given the number of things china has done, I dont think we will be stupid to believe their claims.

They think they erase the erase years of hostile action with few statements.

Need to be a different class of special needs moron to not consider the money and arms and tacit strategic support of your blood enemy the acts of an enemy state.

Cheers, Doc

 

[nang2]

The last time India didnt perceive China as one, we were attacked.

However I dont expect any war to happen btw India and China how much ever members may chest trump here. They are mature countries with active foreign policies with long term visions. Indians dont consider China to be an enemy but in recent years China herself is to blame by blocking UN sanctions of known terrorists, NSG issue and not respecting Indian sensitivies in Kashmir. And expecting India to remain silent is foolish.

last time, India did treat China as it's enemy. Otherwise, it wouldn't ignore the consistent protest from China. It just treated China as a worthless enemy who was too weak to fight back.

They are just trying to makes us complacent and then strike. This was the same trick used against nehru, talk panchsheel and then stab in the back. Given the number of things china has done, I dont think we will be stupid to believe their claims.

They think they erase the erase years of hostile action with few statements.

It is admirable ingenuity of Indian media that can portrait one side's reluctance to war as a conspiracy of fishing them into war.

 

[Dungeness]

There may be some valid points as you have mentioned here...Otherwise, what can be a reason to host million of Tibetian refugee in India, knowing well that it will not be considered as a friendly gesture for China...

But the bigger question is that, if also, we have not received or encouraged Tibet people to be hosted in India, can we be friends knowing well that China already occupied part of Jammu and Kashmir? ...Again, i am not trolling here..But based on historical context, i do not find any reason why can not cooexist with each other...India has always have painful history of Islamic invaders attacking our nation but we never have any conflict per say with China in north...Rather, there are lot of good things i read in our history book about China which is very different in modern times...

Had India accepted Chinese 1960's proposal to swap recognition of sovereignty of the territory under the effective control of each country, we would have solved the border issue by now. But it is India's attitude of "mine is mine, let's talk about yours", that eventually led to 1962 border war. China hasn't taught younger generation about 1962 Sino-India war, and India had never been considered as China's public enemy. The situation is quite different in India though.

 

[Kaniska]

Had India accepted Chinese 1960's proposal to swap recognition of sovereignty of the territory under the effective control of each country, we would have solved the border issue by now. But it is India's attitude of "mine is mine, let's talk about yours", that eventually led to 1962 border war. China hasn't taught younger generation about 1962 Sino-India war, and India had never been considered as China's public enemy. The situation is quite different in India though.

To be honest, even now, we were never influenced with China as an enemy...India is a democratic country..Any media can publish anything...Even Indian media says very nasty thing about out PM since last 15 year...There is absolutely no one can control it....

Because, from our history, we have a bruised past of Islamic invaders but not from China...Rather general Hindu people always fond of nations that are influenced by Budhism...But if you ask me, China proposal to swipe out Akashi Chin with Arunachal was a good proposal...It may be lack of foresign by Indian politician at that time to accept it...

 

[nang2]

To be honest, even now, we were never influenced with China as an enemy...India is a democratic country..Any media can publish anything...Even Indian media says very nasty thing about out PM since last 15 year...There is absolutely no one can control it....

This logic makes sense only if Chinese vote in Indian democracy. Since they don't, the broad hostility from Indian media towards China serves no purpose other than making China its enemy.

 

[Kaniska]

This logic makes sense only if Chinese vote in Indian democracy. Since they don't, the broad hostility from Indian media towards China serves no purpose other than making China its enemy.

I am not here to influence any opinion. It is not about what you think rather it is a fact on ground...It is upto other nations to accept it or not, it is individual choice...

 

[prashantazazel]

Personally I blame Nehru's forward policy for this.
When trying to capture territory, you should have a proper force at standby.

Had India accepted Chinese 1960's proposal to swap recognition of sovereignty of the territory under the effective control of each country, we would have solved the border issue by now. But it is India's attitude of "mine is mine, let's talk about yours", that eventually led to 1962 border war. China hasn't taught younger generation about 1962 Sino-India war, and India had never been considered as China's public enemy. The situation is quite different in India though.

China is considered more of a rival than an enemy here. We generally consider you guys as smart folk who probably won't fight without reason.
Most educated Indians know about the forward policy that lead to the war.
Our conflicts are mainly cos of boundary issues. Otherwise we don't mind a strong China.

 

[Lotus_stalk]

Had India accepted Chinese 1960's proposal to swap recognition of sovereignty of the territory under the effective control of each country, we would have solved the border issue by now. But it is India's attitude of "mine is mine, let's talk about yours", that eventually led to 1962 border war. China hasn't taught younger generation about 1962 Sino-India war, and India had never been considered as China's public enemy. The situation is quite different in India though.

Let me explain a few Geopolitical realities.

India and Pakistan have as much enmity as China-Japan. First India was close with soviet. And Pakistan was in US camp. USA used to support Pakistan against India.

US supplied F-16 fighters to Pakistan,
Now they are begging us to buy F16
Lockheed To Move Base To India To Make F-16 Planes With Tata

We are taking advantage of having a larger economy than Pakistan. And we will. China will do the same. How much US lost for supplying weapons to Pakistan. Everything has a cost.

China offers home-made, though outdated, copters to India
Ananth Krishnan
BEIJING:, July 24, 2012 23:31 IST
Updated: July 25, 2012 00:00 IST

A Z-9 helicopter at the PLA's Fourth Helicopter Regiment in Beijing. Photo: Ananth Krishnan | Photo Credit: http://www.thehindu.com/profile/photographers/HANDOUT-E_MAIL/
http://www.thehindu.com/news/intern...-outdated-copters-to-india/article3679487.ece

 

[Chhatrapati]

Since they don't, the broad hostility from Indian media towards China serves no purpose other than making China its enemy.

The Indian media responded in a better way than the Chinese media responded. Chinese went into a deplorable and racist way.

Keeping those aside India do not have any grudges against China. We have a general security threat we feel not because of the 62 incident. But more due to the Chinese persistent support for 'Whatever Pakistan do'.

This has gone to an extend that, you don't hesitate to even support terrorists. From blocking from NSG. And so on.

This will only make India side with the west, and it is counter productive to your interest.

With this stand off, there will be increased presence of Japanese, American and Australian military activities.

Japan on the other hand is reviving it's defense forces, and becoming more independent.

Similar to South Korea, what if Japan decides to deploy THAAD. You can't arm twist the Japs that easy like SK.

China is not going for a peaceful rise, rather it will hamper it's own advantage by making enemies around.

Essentially China is forcing it's neighbors towards west, and US is keen to meddle in such a situation.

China do not seem to back down either. Interesting times ahead.

 

[nang2]

The Indian media responded in a better way than the Chinese media responded. Chinese went into a deplorable and racist way.

Keeping those aside India do not have any grudges against China. We have a general security threat we feel not because of the 62 incident. But more due to the Chinese persistent support for 'Whatever Pakistan do'.

This has gone to an extend that, you don't hesitate to even support terrorists. From blocking from NSG. And so on.

This will only make India side with the west, and it is counter productive to your interest.

With this stand off, there will be increased presence of Japanese, American and Australian military activities.

Japan on the other hand is reviving it's defense forces, and becoming more independent.

Similar to South Korea, what if Japan decides to deploy THAAD. You can't arm twist the Japs that easy like SK.

China is not going for a peaceful rise, rather it will hamper it's own advantage by making enemies around.

Essentially China is forcing it's neighbors towards west, and US is keen to meddle in such a situation.

China do not seem to back down either. Interesting times ahead.

good Lord. we were just talking about China and India. you dragged the whole south and est Asia in.

as of media in India and China. One thing obvious. China media is mostly reactive to India's action or talks and often under suppressions from the government for the wish of not to sour the relationship. India media is much freer and couldn't care less about the relationship.

most of China media care very little about India. bashing India in general doesn't drive up people's attention, which is the lifeblood for media.

 

[Chhatrapati]

China media is mostly reactive to India's action or talks and often under suppressions from the government for the wish of not to sour the relationship.

Well, your media wasn't exactly helping to cool down the situation or being diplomatic, it was in full war cry mode.

most of China media care very little about India. bashing India in general doesn't drive up people's attention, which is the lifeblood for media.

Well, I guess it has driven up some international attention. Then again it wasn't helpful to India - China relation.

good Lord. we were just talking about China and India. you dragged the whole south and est Asia in.

I was just explaining how China is on a 'peaceful' rise.

 

[Lotus_stalk]

I am not here to influence any opinion. It is not about what you think rather it is a fact on ground...It is upto other nations to accept it or not, it is i

The Indian media responded in a better way than the Chinese media responded. Chinese went into a deplorable and racist way.

Keeping those aside India do not have any grudges against China. We have a general security threat we feel not because of the 62 incident. But more due to the Chinese persistent support for 'Whatever Pakistan do'.

This has gone to an extend that, you don't hesitate to even support terrorists. From blocking from NSG. And so on.

This will only make India side with the west, and it is counter productive to your interest.

With this stand off, there will be increased presence of Japanese, American and Australian military activities.

Japan on the other hand is reviving it's defense forces, and becoming more independent.

Similar to South Korea, what if Japan decides to deploy THAAD. You can't arm twist the Japs that easy like SK.

China is not going for a peaceful rise, rather it will hamper it's own advantage by making enemies around.

Essentially China is forcing it's neighbors towards west, and US is keen to meddle in such a situation.

China do not seem to back down either. Interesting times ahead.

This nang might be a Pakistani false flager. What I gather from original Chinese here is.
Baring a few, Many of these ccp trolls are very boorish and egotist people.

Having business relations with China is a total loss. They cleverly block our pharma and IT services. They take only raw materials like iron ore. They will not export raw materials. They will suffer a loss to do such a trade. Having a trade with Chinese is a total loss until these Chinese change their mindset.

We should just have a cold understanding with them, USA and west are several times better than these people.
West had a change of heart and banned apartheid. But these Chinese may never have this change of heart.

We should deal with chinese very cleverly. We should never join their OBOR. India should develope infrastructure on its own. Chinese attitude towards India will not change till India developes itself. Chinese exports 2.3 trillion worth of goods to world, If India aggressively captures 500 billion of this, which India can due to its huge demography. Until we break Chinese ego, Chinese will not see sense. This is law of nature.

 

[nang2]

Well, your media wasn't exactly helping to cool down the situation or being diplomatic, it was in full war cry mode.

what do you expect? Indian troops with weapons crossed what they consider undisputed border and stayed there. Think what Indian media would respond if Chinese troops did the same thing.

Well, I guess it has driven up some international attention. Then again it wasn't helpful to India - China relation.

hardly. few people outside of China pay much attention to China media.

I was just explaining how China is on a 'peaceful' rise.

you'd better hope China keeps that way. After all, there hasn't been a major conflict in about 30 years.

 

[thesolar65]

Art of War - Deception.