China is making a bet that no one will start a war to stop the island building

[Viet]

I'm going to make myself very CLEAR in this power game. This is not about the little Vietnamese, or the little Pinoy. Not at all. It is ABOUT THE UNITED STATES of the WORLD. Everything we do is to fortify ourselves against the US aggression. We saw what happens in Middle east and we saw what they can do during the bombing of our embassy. We saw what they want in the Taiwan crisis. All signals lead to a future war. If we don't' fortify our position now, when war happens, we would lose. It is that simple. Now we fortify our position and continue to modernize our force, there is a good chance we will crack that US armor open. I REPEAT, there IS NO ONE in this world who can match or exceed the US industrial might in the war time period. We may be the ONLY one in history to do that. That is the confidence that we have in ourselves, when war comes, we will be ready to junk out war machine. Think of Nazi Germany x10. We will sink all US carriers and let see how fast they can build those carriers and send over to the Pacifics.

I slowly begin to question your mental health. not only yours but chinese in general.

no, the dispute in the SCS is not all about US vs China. it is just one of the many conflicts. sure, it is the one, if slipping out of control, will end with most severe consequences. for both sides, America and China. so you are safe if you stay where you are now: in the United States. because China could go down the drain.

you forget Vietnam. little Vietnamese as you said. you forget the Philippines, little Pinoy as you spew here. we both still hold the largest parts of the sea, therefore, controlling the major part.

don´t overstate your military power, because, if history is a guide, it sucks. your tons of men and weapons never hindered your weaker opponents to loot your house, taking your money, your women.

you even lost the war against a third rate military power as Burma.

comparing the PLA to Deutsche Wehrmacht is an insult. for the germans.

The incomprehensible thing for me, and I think for my country as a whole, is why would China risk all the progress she has made since the great reforms under Deng Xiaoping, all the good relationships she has built up with her trading partners, all the advances in income and a better life for her people.............over some silly sand-castle islands in the SCS?

It's incomprehensible to any sane person looking at it. Even if China thinks she can win a battle with the US Navy and our allies in the region, (Which she can't.), she will lose. Her trade, foreign investment, her standing in the world community, will all go up in smoke. China's internal politics has always been a riddle wrapped in an enigma but this obviously bad move by Chinese leaders who are usually known for being careful and deliberate, is very hard to understand.

well, incomprehensible but predictable. to understand chinese psyche, you may go back to the times, when the whites came, some time ago, showed them where the power comes from: a gun barrel. chinese copy their style.

In addition, they live in the delusion: they are immortal.

 

[sweetgrape]

I slowly begin to question your mental health. not only yours but chinese in general.

no, the dispute in the SCS is not all about US vs China. it is just one of the many conflicts. sure, it is the one, if slipping out of control, will end with most severe consequences. for both sides, America and China. so you are safe if you stay where you are now: in the United States. because China could go down the drain.

you forget Vietnam. little Vietnamese as you said. you forget the Philippines, little Pinoy as you spew here. we both still hold the largest parts of the sea, therefore, controlling the major part.

don´t overstate your military power, because, if history is a guide, it sucks. your tons of men and weapons never hindered your weaker opponents to loot your house, taking your money, your women.

you even lost the war against a third rate military power as Burma.

comparing the PLA to Deutsche Wehrmacht is an insult. for the germans.

Sound you Vietmanese are very powerful, China with 1.4 billion population are sh!t, hehe, tell me what's the population of Conbined Vietnam, Phillippine, USA?

Don't scare we Chinese, if we can't scare you 100 million Vietnamese, you think you can scare 1400 million Chinese? first back to School, learn, what make USA join the war with Japan, don't come here scare Chinese with you big mouth.

 

[xunzi]

I slowly begin to question your mental health. not only yours but chinese in general.

no, the dispute in the SCS is not all about US vs China. it is just one of the many conflicts. sure, it is the one, if slipping out of control, will end with most severe consequences. for both sides, America and China. so you are safe if you stay where you are now: in the United States. because China could go down the drain.

you forget Vietnam. little Vietnamese as you said. you forget the Philippines, little Pinoy as you spew here. we both still hold the largest parts of the sea, therefore, controlling the major part.

don´t overstate your military power, because, if history is a guide, it sucks. your tons of men and weapons never hindered your weaker opponents to loot your house, taking your money, your women.

you even lost the war against a third rate military power as Burma.

comparing the PLA to Deutsche Wehrmacht is an insult. for the germans.

In our eyes, you are not a threat at all. It is the USA. Do learn some history. We dominated Vietnam the longest in history of any existing sovereignty country. As for the Burma-Sino war, the failure to conquer Burma was simply the jungle and disease. Calvary and horsemen simply cannot be used in the jungle.

And no, I don't overstate our military. Beside the 100 years that we fell behind the Western industrial might, we have fought many major wars in our existing long histories. We won some, lost some. It is common for a country of our long history.

 

[Desertfalcon]

the little Vietnamese, or the little Pinoy.

...and that's why it isn't just about the United States. Kinda' answers itself, doesn't it?

Btw, ummm.........don't you live in the United States?

 

[Ceri]

China may be 1,5 billion. But with this attitude you are gonna isolate yourself and aggrevate all your neighbours and your neighbours' neighbours. With this attitude you are short 2 billion, since the rest of us are 5,5 billion. I don't see any form of responsibility in your posts, you don't even want to stay friends with your closest neighbours, even a Communist Party Vietnam.

 

[xunzi]

...and that's why it isn't just about the United States. Kinda' answers itself, doesn't it?

Btw, ummm.........don't you live in the United States?

We never wish to fight a war with NOBODY. But if others come knocking our door and point a gun at us, then we shall dance to the last song. As for the Vietnam and Phillipines, as I said, they are not really that threat to us. If they attack us, we know we can defeat them quite easily. However the hope is these two are not that dumb to try to test our capability. Part of me wanting a war to test out our weapons and sharpen up our war skill a little bit, and part of me sadden to see the Viet and Pinoy getting hurt. After all, they will always be our neighbors whether we like it or not.

I live in the US, I always love it. LOL

China may be 1,5 billion. But with this attitude you are gonna isolate yourself and aggrevate all your neighbours and your neighbours' neighbours. With this attitude you are short 2 billion, since the rest of us are 5,5 billion. I don't see any form of responsibility in your posts, you don't even want to stay friends with your closest neighbours, even a Communist Party Vietnam.

Give me a break. Stop speaking for the "world". The world doesn't consist of the Western hemisphere and a few of their cronies in Asia. Like I said many times. Our country is the most peaceful. We have not hurt anyone in the modern history, aside from foreign powers interference in our business.

 

[Desertfalcon]

I live in the US, I always love it. LOL

You are disgustingly disloyal to it. Please, please tell me you do not actually hold American citizenship! Because if you do, when you gleefully say things like this...

We will sink all US carriers and let see how fast they can build those carriers and send over to the Pacifics.

...I can't believe that anyone could be such a scumbag as to enjoy the freedom, opportunity, and friendship of America and your American friends, while you boast on PDF at how you will see their sons and daughters die on American aircraft carriers.

 

[xunzi]

You are disgustingly disloyal to it. Please, please tell me you do not actually hold American citizenship! Because if you do, when you gleefully say things like this...

How am I disloyal? Does the US go around raping other countries, mean I have to support that as well? In fact, do I have to support the US to destroy my motherland?

...I can't believe that anyone could be such a scumbag as to enjoy the freedom, opportunity, and friendship of America and your American friends, while you boast on PDF at how you will see their sons and daughters die on American aircraft carriers.

I said it before I never want to see our two countries fight a war because I know, that will be a very nasty scenario and can turn the world upside down or in a ball of fire. I wish no one to die in a war but if anyone fight my motherland, then nothing can brides me, including my biggest friends in the USA.

 

[sweetgrape]

China may be 1,5 billion. But with this attitude you are gonna isolate yourself and aggrevate all your neighbours and your neighbours' neighbours. With this attitude you are short 2 billion, since the rest of us are 5,5 billion. I don't see any form of responsibility in your posts, you don't even want to stay friends with your closest neighbours, even a Communist Party Vietnam.

Hehe, so it is China's fault again,

If I said we 1.4 billion Chinese don't care, because I am Chinese, here rest of you are 5.5 billion? you are a country? you can represent for the 5.5 billion? africa, south America, Russia, Arab? tell me, do the list of countries that want a war with China, or that China want a war with?

Open you eyes, China or Vietnam don't want stay friends mutually? don't just ask China shoud be responsible, not because we are bigger, they are smaller, so we are responsible for taking back, suggest you, think a read more, not only western media and report, as a idiot, you are so far from China and Vietnam, you really know the history?

 

[Viet]

Sound you Vietmanese are very powerful, China with 1.4 billion population are sh!t, hehe, tell me what's the population of Conbined Vietnam, Phillippine, USA?

Don't scare we Chinese, if we can't scare you 100 million Vietnamese, you think you can scare 1400 million Chinese? first back to School, learn, what make USA join the war with Japan, don't come here scare Chinese with you big mouth.

you can laugh day and night if you like. I just warned you of possible consequences you will face if you continue.

no. unlike the Japanese or Mongols or Manchu, we never have intention to enslave chinese. you should feel lucky. we still remember of the good old days of chinese empire, despite all of your crimes against Vietnam.

 

[Desertfalcon]

How am I disloyal?

Go home. Please, renounce your American citizenship and go home. That you can sit and have an enjoyable time with your American friends while in your bravado, gleefully talk about China killing their sons and daughters.......well, I am just beyond words. You sit with your American citizenship, that brave young men and women have fought and died to protect, and you think them murderers. God, I can't imagine a human being being that.....ungrateful, disloyal, dishonest, horrible. It disgust me.

 

[xunzi]

Go home. Please, renounce your American citizenship and go home. That you can sit and have an enjoyable time with your American friends while in your bravado, gleefully talk about China killing their sons and daughters.......well, I am just beyond words. You sit with your American citizenship, that brave young men and women have fought and died to protect, and you think them murderers. God, I can't imagine a human being being that.....ungrateful, disloyal, dishonest, horrible. It disgust me.

Sometime, people don't get to choose where they stay. It is part of the job. And I am sure many American living in China would wish dead to our people if our country fight, so spare me with your high moral nonsense.

 

[Desertfalcon]

Sometime, people don't get to choose where they stay. It is part of the job. And I am sure many American living in China would wish dead to our people if our country fight, so spare me with your high moral nonsense.

There is a big difference in temporarily living in a country because of a job and being the citizen of a country.

 

[xunzi]

you can laugh day and night if you like. I just warned you of possible consequences you will face if you continue.

no. unlike the Japanese or Mongols or Manchu, we never have intention to enslave chinese. you should feel lucky. we still remember of the good old days of chinese empire, despite all of your crimes against Vietnam.

Enslave us? you think your Vietnamese jungle warrior can fight in the open field like the Manchu or Mongols? Please! LOL There is a reason why jungle countries are historically weak and got conquered by the more aggressive non-jungle civilization. Think about it.

There is a big difference in temporarily living in a country because of a job and being the citizen of a country.

I never said I was a citizen of the US.

 

[sweetgrape]

you can laugh day and night if you like. I just warned you of possible consequences you will face if you continue.

no. unlike the Japanese or Mongols or Manchu, we never have intention to enslave chinese. you should feel lucky. we still remember of the good old days of chinese empire, despite all of your crimes against Vietnam.

Yeah, thank you for your warning? but when you warning me, whether you think what possible consequence you will face if you continue?

We will continue reclaiming island, deploy more weapon and soldier there, I also want know the possible consequence we will face, you don't want know? the consequence I don't know. but I know if we stop, not continue, what consequence we will face.

Whether you have intention to enslave Chinese or not, I don't know, I also don't want to know, I just know, you don't have that ability, that's encough, but we have ability to enslave you, the history prove it, now, whether we want or not, you want know?

Yes, we are lucky, for me, the luckiest thing you Vietnam bring to China is you don't have ability enslave China. keep remembering of the good old chinese empire, I don't care, in fact, that's not important, the important is what are you now, are in furture to China.