China ICT (Info Communications Technology) Industry, Infra, Commerce, Exports: News & Discussions

[sinaloa]

Sharing country achievment is nothing to talk about. But boasting is relevant to many chinese. What most common i hear from chinese is praise their local made stuffs like greatest invention and about to take over the world. See how chinese boast about their super computer superior than U.S . Please do me favor do more research before boasting.

I hear the same crap howe wonderful xiaomi compare with iphone and will over take iphone again and again in where there are chinese. Be humble little bit with that crap.

dear Nam, can your Dai Nam make it to space for just one more time without hitchhiking your soviet bff's Soyuz?
just curious.

 

[ComradeNam]

There is absolutely no point in replying to people who still belong up the trees。

dear Nam, can your Dai Nam make it to space for just one more time without hitchhiking your soviet bff's Soyuz?
just curious.

See the point? This is typical Chinese bragging about their achievement. If some how, some day they did pass the U.S. and Japan, you will see load of Chinese on internet spamming similar posts "Yeh I am top of the world, you westerners decline, inferior...etc."

What funny these Chinese never think, when they compare Vietnam with China? One country with limited fund and one country with massive fund, tax of 1.3 billions people. What Vietnam lack of is fund. If I am Chinese I will be shame of my country of 1.3 billions people and tax but far behind Japan a country of 90 million, and U.S. 300 millions peopole.

See we Viet ever compare us with Cambodia? a country with 16 millions? No, we strike to be like Japan we compare ourself with Japan and see how lag us behind. We don't do monkey jump up and down on internet whenever something come out of country. Sure we might share our achievement but we don't do "monkey comparison" like many Chinese does, boasting, bragging, make it like world greatest invention and that so superior, other inferior.

And here how we answer to your "greatest invention". That is only use by Chinese. So keep doing good job boasting. To this point all your tech are just copy cat and use widely by 1.3 billion Chinese, nothing break through yet.

For Chinese tech companies overseas, China is a toxic brand

 

[Martian2]

See the point? This is typical Chinese bragging about their achievement. If some how, some day they did pass the U.S. and Japan, you will see load of Chinese on internet spamming similar posts "Yeh I am top of the world, you westerners decline, inferior...etc."

What funny these Chinese never think, when they compare Vietnam with China? One country with limited fund and one country with massive fund, tax of 1.3 billions people. What Vietnam lack of is fund. If I am Chinese I will be shame of my country of 1.3 billions people and tax but far behind Japan a country of 90 million, and U.S. 300 millions peopole.

See we Viet ever compare us with Cambodia? a country with 16 millions? No, we strike to be like Japan we compare ourself with Japan and see how lag us behind. We don't do monkey jump up and down on internet whenever something come out of country. Sure we might share our achievement but we don't do "monkey comparison" like many Chinese does, boasting, bragging, make it like world greatest invention and that so superior, other inferior.

And here how we answer to your "greatest invention". That is only use by Chinese. So keep doing good job boasting. To this point all your tech are just copy cat and use widely by 1.3 billion Chinese, nothing break through yet.

For Chinese tech companies overseas, China is a toxic brand

Tell me, how many of China's technological milestones (see below) can Vietnam match? Since you Viets are living in the Stone Age, why should any Chinese here care about the opinion of a primitive Viet? You Viets are not a technological people. You Viets are merely a bunch of non-industrialized backward primitives with big mouths.
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China's Military Technological Milestones - includes China's JY-26 counter-stealth radar

210 B.C. (2,200 years ago): China invents chrome-plating technology during Qin Dynasty under emperor Qin Shihuang.

1964: China detonated a 22-kiloton atomic bomb on October 16, 1964.
1967: China detonated a 3.3-megaton thermonuclear bomb on June 17, 1967.

1970: China successfully sends its first satellite into space - the Dong Fang Hong I
1971: China successfully launched its first DF-5 ICBM with 12,000-15,000km range and capable of carrying a five-megaton "city buster" thermonuclear warhead.
1972: China builds its first atomic clock at Shanghai Astronomical Observatory (SHAO).

1984: China built its first cryogenic YF-73 rocket engine.
1986: China built an indigenous DD3 nickel-based single-crystal superalloy. (Earliest English article citation is year 1995. However, the first published Chinese research paper on DD3 discovery was in 1986.)
1988: China test-detonates a 1- to 20-kiloton Neutron Bomb on September 29, 1988.
1988: Julang 1 (JL-1) SLBM is fully operational with the successful test firing from a submerged Xia SSBN in September 1988.

1998: Chinese J-10 Vigorous Dragon had its first flight. Officially unveiled in 2007.
1998: "At the 1998 Zhuhai Air Show, the [Chinese] Seek Optics Company displayed information of its stealth coating and software for stealth shaping.[63]"
1999: Chinese JSTARS Tu-154M/D Electronic Intelligence Aircraft in service (e.g. Careless B-4138).

2000: China successfully sends its first GPS satellite (Beidou) into space.
2001: Chinese Type 99 Main Battle Tank in service.
2002: China's Type 093 Shang-class nuclear attack submarine (SSN) is launched.
2003: China sends its first taikonaut Yang Liwei into space.
2003: China's KJ-2000 AWACS with domestic AESA radar has its first flight.
2003*: DD6 is China's indigenous second-generation nickel-based single-crystal superalloy (Earliest English article citation is year 2003. However, actual DD6 discovery was probably closer to year 2000.)
2005: China's Type 052C Lanzhou-class AESA-equipped destroyer entered service.
2006: China's WS-10A turbofan engine certified for production.
2006: First static test of the WS-13 turbofan engine with single-crystal turbine blades.
2007: China clones world's first rabbit.
2007: Chinese direct-ascent ASAT shoots down orbiting satellite.
2007: Chinese DF-31A MIRVed ICBM in service.
2008: China conducts its first spacewalk with taikonaut Zhai Zhigang.
2008: China orbits its first data tracking and relay communications satellite - Tianlian I
2009: Public disclosure of China's 5,000km "Underground Great Wall"

2010: China builds world's-fastest supercomputer Tianhe-1A.
2010: Chinese GBI (i.e. ground based interceptor) shoots down a ballistic missile during mid-course phase.
2010: Chinese WZ-10 Attack Helicopter in service.
2010: Chinese Type 094 Jin-class nuclear missile ballistic submarine (SSBN) in service.
2010: Chinese Yaogan 9 NOSS (Naval Ocean Surveillance System) satellite trio in orbit.
2011: Chengdu J-20 stealth superfighter has first flight on January 11, 2011.
2012: China sends its first woman taikonaut Liu Yang into space on a 10-day mission.
2012: Chinese Jialong manned submersible completes world record-breaking 7,000 meter dive.
2012: First sighting of next-generation AESA radar for Type 052C destroyer.
2012: DF-41 10-MIRV-capable ICBM with 12,000-15,000km range had first flight on July 24, 2012.
2012: Chinese Type 056 corvette enters service.
2012: New Chinese thermonuclear-capable IRBM with 4,000km range (to potentially strike Guam).
2012: China's Beidou System successfully covers all of China and the surrounding region.
2012: Shenyang J-31 medium-range stealth fighter has first flight on October 31, 2012.
2012: China builds its first optical clock (which is more precise than an atomic clock).
2012: China's SOSUS became operational.
2013: China's Y-20 heavy-lift military transport conducts first flight on January 26, 2013.
2013: "The Chinese military has deployed its new anti-ship ballistic missile [ASBM or "carrier killer"] along its southern coast facing Taiwan, the Pentagon’s top military intelligence officer said today."
2013: "After a round of successful testing in 2012, the JL-2 appears ready to reach initial operational capability in 2013." (Source [p. 39, Pentagon 2013 report on Chinese Military Power])
2013: China has deployed H-6K "God of War" bomber that is capable of carrying thermonuclear-capable CJ-10 cruise missiles.
2013: Bill Gertz reports China is building 1,240 miles of special tracks for rail-mobile ICBMs.
2013: China deploys advanced SRBM with MARV (maneuverable reentry vehicle) thermonuclear-capable warhead
2013: China's "Lijian stealth UAV from Hongdu has made its first flight on Nov. 21 at 13:00 local time. The flight was 20 minutes."
2013: China's Yutu rover separates from Chang'e-3 Moon Lander on December 14, 2013.
2013: China's Z-20 military medium-lift 10-ton utility helicopter has its first flight on December 23, 2013
2014: China conducts its first HGV (hypersonic glide vehicle) flight on January 9, 2014.
2014: China conducts first flight test of its WS-20 large turbofan high-bypass engine.
2014: Deagel reports China's YJ-18 AEGIS KILLER has reached IOC (ie. initial operational capability) and it is currently an exclusive offensive weapon on the Chinese Type 052D destroyer
2014: China unveils the JY-26 counter-stealth radar at the Zhuhai Airshow. UK radar-expert John Wise says the JY-26 round radomes could be designed to take advantage of circular polarization. (Source: China's Anti-Stealth Radar Comes to Fruition | Defense News | defensenews.com )

 

[cirr]

Huawei HiSilicon Kirin 940 And Kirin 950 SoC Specifications Surface

Published on March 12, 2015 by Kristijan Lucic



Huawei has been all over the news lately, not only did they announce their first Android Wear-powered smartwatch at MWC in Barcelona, but this company is also rumored as the possible manufacturer of the next Nexus device. Anyhow, Huawei is one of those smartphone manufacturers who also manufacture their own processors. Huawei’s SoCs aren’t nearly as well-known as Qualcomm’s, Samsung’s or MediaTek’s chips, but this China-based company is making really solid mobile SoCs.

That being said, some info surfaced regarding Huawei’s upcoming chips for 2015. Huwaei’s HiSilicon Kirin 930 octa-core chip is currently powering on the company’s flagships, and this leak brings us some info regarding the upcoming Kirin 940 and 950 chips. The Kirin 940 SoC is expected to arrive in Q3 2015, while the Kirin 950 will follow in the fourth quarter this year. Both of these chips are octa-core processors (quad-core Cortex A53 + quad-core Cortex A72), their clock rates are different though. Both of these chips come with support for a dual-channel LPDDR4 RAM (25.6GB/s) memory, will support 4K video encoding and will come with Tensicilica HiFi 4 DSP. As far as sensor hubs go, both of these chips will come with i7 co-processor (sensor hub + connectivity + security). The Kirin 940 will ship with ARM’s Mali T860 GPU, while the higher-end, Kirin 950, will come with ARM’s Mali T880 GPU. Dual-SIM category 7 LTE connectivity will be supported by the Kirin 940, while the Kirin 950 will come with support for dual-SIM cat.10 LTE connectivity.

There are plenty more information provided in the table down below, this is kind of an extensive leak, and the information seems quite credible. Huawei means business this year, the company is expected to launch a bunch of devices this year, starting with Huawei P8 which will arrive next month. We probably won’t see these two chips power on any of Huawei’s devices this year, but you can expect Kirin 940 and Kirin 950-powered Huawei-branded handset to launch in early 2015. That’s just a guess though, we’ll see. Let us know what are your thoughts here, are you looking forward to the announcement of any specific Huawei smartphone this year?



Huawei HiSilicon Kirin 940 And Kirin 950 SoC Specifications Surface | Androidheadlines.com

Nexus 6 Successor Likely To Utilise Huawei Kirin 930 Processor, Says Chinese Source

By Pavithra Rathinavel on March 11 2015 1:09 PM

Earlier rumours pointed out that Google has struck a deal with Huawei for the unnamed Nexus 6 successor. However, there was no information provided on what kind of partnership would that be. But now, a fresh report from a Chinese source states that the upcoming Nexus smartphone will be powered by Huawei’s own processor.

According to Gizmo China, the next Nexus smartphone will reportedly be powered by Huawei Kirin 930 processor. It is worth noting that, the Kirin 930 is the processor powering the Huawei Mediapad X2 smartphone. And it is not surprising because a vast majority of the Huawei handsets apparently house the company-built processors. In any case, housing a Huawei processor in Google Nexus line-up is quite a new story.

But why would Google agree to a Huawei processor in the upcoming Nexus smartphone? The Hisilicon-built Huawei Kirin 930 processor has reportedly elevated itself over a period of time and it is in a position to take the market leaders like Qualcomm (Snapdragon SoC), Samsung (Exynos SoC) and Mediatek. For those uninitiated, HiSilicon is the semiconductor company based out of Shenzhen, China, which is fully owned by Huawei. And moreover, Hisilicon was reportedly founded in 2004 and has generated more than $1.4 billion in revenues specific to 2013. Plus, this company is ranked as number one among IC design companies in China, notes Gizmo China.

Also it is worth noting that, the latest Hisilicon Kirin 930 is apparently a very advanced processor. Technically speaking, it is reportedly built on the smaller 16 nm process, which is relatively better than the 20 nm process employed by the latest and powerful Qualcomm Snapdragon 810 SoC. To top it off, the Hisilicon Kirin 930 is a 64-bit, octa-core processor that runs at 2.0 GHz and importantly, this SoC is based on ARM’s big.LITTLE architecture, known to save power in mobile devices. Adding a cherry on top, this killer processor is reportedly wired to support up to 32 MP camera sensors.

Furthermore, Huawei/Hisilicon is reportedly gearing up to sell chips to OEMs and other companies in order to improve the market share（about time，about time）. It is not surprising that the best way to get prominent is to provide chip for the upcoming Nexus smartphone, notes the same site. In any case, readers should note that, Google and Huawei have not confirmed the Nexus 6 successor related information thus far.

Nexus 6 Successor Likely To Utilise Huawei Kirin 930 Processor, Says Chinese Source

 

[Keel]

@ComradeNam

Toxic brands?
In your face, troll!

Huawei Technologies sells more overseas than in China in 2005 | Macauhub English
Huawei's smartphones shipments rise on international sales | PCWorld
Huawei this year to sell 100 million mobile phones in overseas markets will contribute Liu Cheng - Technology News

Xiaomi Sells 100K Phones in First Overseas Flash Sale
China's Xiaomi sells 10,000 phones in 10 minutes in first overseas flash sale

How Lenovo Built a Chinese Tech Giant - WSJ
Chinese industry: From guard shack to global giant | The Economist
Huawei, ZTE and Lenovo Moved Into The Top 5 Global Smartphone Vendors In Q4, Says Canalys | TechCrunch
China's smartphone makers catching up with western rivals | Business | The Guardian

China Food and Drug Regulatory Information Network
Chinese seek greater share of satellite market|Top Stories|chinadaily.com.cn
Thailand first overseas client of China's 'GPS' system | ZDNet
China launches CBERS-4 satellite on Long March rockets' 200th mission - China - Chinadaily.com.cn
Nuclear company signs landmark technology agreement with Argentina|Companies|chinadaily.com.cn
UK government paves way for Chinese nuclear plant
Next Big Future: China wants to export nuclear power plants to Brazil, UK, South Africa and other countries
Airshow - China to Export 20 Y-12 Aircraft to the U.S.
Chinese developer buys two London tower developments | Online News | Building
China in joint deal to build Piraeus container terminal - FT.com
U.S. Bridges, Roads Being Built by Chinese Firms Video - ABC News
New San Francisco bridge built in China to be shipped to US - Telegraph

Fineset Chinese porcelain tea set

 

[xunzi]

Huawei HiSilicon Kirin 940 And Kirin 950 SoC Specifications Surface

Published on March 12, 2015 by Kristijan Lucic



Huawei has been all over the news lately, not only did they announce their first Android Wear-powered smartwatch at MWC in Barcelona, but this company is also rumored as the possible manufacturer of the next Nexus device. Anyhow, Huawei is one of those smartphone manufacturers who also manufacture their own processors. Huawei’s SoCs aren’t nearly as well-known as Qualcomm’s, Samsung’s or MediaTek’s chips, but this China-based company is making really solid mobile SoCs.

That being said, some info surfaced regarding Huawei’s upcoming chips for 2015. Huwaei’s HiSilicon Kirin 930 octa-core chip is currently powering on the company’s flagships, and this leak brings us some info regarding the upcoming Kirin 940 and 950 chips. The Kirin 940 SoC is expected to arrive in Q3 2015, while the Kirin 950 will follow in the fourth quarter this year. Both of these chips are octa-core processors (quad-core Cortex A53 + quad-core Cortex A72), their clock rates are different though. Both of these chips come with support for a dual-channel LPDDR4 RAM (25.6GB/s) memory, will support 4K video encoding and will come with Tensicilica HiFi 4 DSP. As far as sensor hubs go, both of these chips will come with i7 co-processor (sensor hub + connectivity + security). The Kirin 940 will ship with ARM’s Mali T860 GPU, while the higher-end, Kirin 950, will come with ARM’s Mali T880 GPU. Dual-SIM category 7 LTE connectivity will be supported by the Kirin 940, while the Kirin 950 will come with support for dual-SIM cat.10 LTE connectivity.

There are plenty more information provided in the table down below, this is kind of an extensive leak, and the information seems quite credible. Huawei means business this year, the company is expected to launch a bunch of devices this year, starting with Huawei P8 which will arrive next month. We probably won’t see these two chips power on any of Huawei’s devices this year, but you can expect Kirin 940 and Kirin 950-powered Huawei-branded handset to launch in early 2015. That’s just a guess though, we’ll see. Let us know what are your thoughts here, are you looking forward to the announcement of any specific Huawei smartphone this year?



Huawei HiSilicon Kirin 940 And Kirin 950 SoC Specifications Surface | Androidheadlines.com

Nexus 6 Successor Likely To Utilise Huawei Kirin 930 Processor, Says Chinese Source

By Pavithra Rathinavel on March 11 2015 1:09 PM

Earlier rumours pointed out that Google has struck a deal with Huawei for the unnamed Nexus 6 successor. However, there was no information provided on what kind of partnership would that be. But now, a fresh report from a Chinese source states that the upcoming Nexus smartphone will be powered by Huawei’s own processor.

According to Gizmo China, the next Nexus smartphone will reportedly be powered by Huawei Kirin 930 processor. It is worth noting that, the Kirin 930 is the processor powering the Huawei Mediapad X2 smartphone. And it is not surprising because a vast majority of the Huawei handsets apparently house the company-built processors. In any case, housing a Huawei processor in Google Nexus line-up is quite a new story.

But why would Google agree to a Huawei processor in the upcoming Nexus smartphone? The Hisilicon-built Huawei Kirin 930 processor has reportedly elevated itself over a period of time and it is in a position to take the market leaders like Qualcomm (Snapdragon SoC), Samsung (Exynos SoC) and Mediatek. For those uninitiated, HiSilicon is the semiconductor company based out of Shenzhen, China, which is fully owned by Huawei. And moreover, Hisilicon was reportedly founded in 2004 and has generated more than $1.4 billion in revenues specific to 2013. Plus, this company is ranked as number one among IC design companies in China, notes Gizmo China.

Also it is worth noting that, the latest Hisilicon Kirin 930 is apparently a very advanced processor. Technically speaking, it is reportedly built on the smaller 16 nm process, which is relatively better than the 20 nm process employed by the latest and powerful Qualcomm Snapdragon 810 SoC. To top it off, the Hisilicon Kirin 930 is a 64-bit, octa-core processor that runs at 2.0 GHz and importantly, this SoC is based on ARM’s big.LITTLE architecture, known to save power in mobile devices. Adding a cherry on top, this killer processor is reportedly wired to support up to 32 MP camera sensors.

Furthermore, Huawei/Hisilicon is reportedly gearing up to sell chips to OEMs and other companies in order to improve the market share（about time，about time）. It is not surprising that the best way to get prominent is to provide chip for the upcoming Nexus smartphone, notes the same site. In any case, readers should note that, Google and Huawei have not confirmed the Nexus 6 successor related information thus far.

Nexus 6 Successor Likely To Utilise Huawei Kirin 930 Processor, Says Chinese Source

If this is true, I'm buying Nexus. Google pure Android with Kirin 930, SWEETTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT!

 

[rott]

The Vietnamese think America is his dad.haha

They don't think, they "know" America is their daddy.

If this is true, I'm buying Nexus. Google pure Android with Kirin 930, SWEETTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT!

You could simply buy a Huawei phone instead. Lol

 

[xunzi]

They don't think, they "know" America is their daddy.


You could simply buy a Huawei phone instead. Lol

If Huawei provided pure android, then that would be perfect. Right now, only Google offer pure Android experience.

 

[rott]

Huawei phones are really built like a tank. My old phone ascend mate is given to my 5 year old and she throws it around like a toy and still the phone works like a charm. The only Gripe I have is their gpu. It's pretty slow in gaming. Hope Huawei fixes the issue ASAP.

If Huawei provided pure android, then that would be perfect. Right now, only Google offer pure Android experience.

Oh okay, you're looking for stock android. Thought you were talking about Huawei's processor.

 

[TaiShang]

@ComradeNam

Toxic brands?
In your face, troll!

Huawei Technologies sells more overseas than in China in 2005 | Macauhub English
Huawei's smartphones shipments rise on international sales | PCWorld
Huawei this year to sell 100 million mobile phones in overseas markets will contribute Liu Cheng - Technology News

Xiaomi Sells 100K Phones in First Overseas Flash Sale
China's Xiaomi sells 10,000 phones in 10 minutes in first overseas flash sale

How Lenovo Built a Chinese Tech Giant - WSJ
Chinese industry: From guard shack to global giant | The Economist
Huawei, ZTE and Lenovo Moved Into The Top 5 Global Smartphone Vendors In Q4, Says Canalys | TechCrunch
China's smartphone makers catching up with western rivals | Business | The Guardian

China Food and Drug Regulatory Information Network
Chinese seek greater share of satellite market|Top Stories|chinadaily.com.cn
Thailand first overseas client of China's 'GPS' system | ZDNet
China launches CBERS-4 satellite on Long March rockets' 200th mission - China - Chinadaily.com.cn
Nuclear company signs landmark technology agreement with Argentina|Companies|chinadaily.com.cn
UK government paves way for Chinese nuclear plant
Next Big Future: China wants to export nuclear power plants to Brazil, UK, South Africa and other countries
Airshow - China to Export 20 Y-12 Aircraft to the U.S.
Chinese developer buys two London tower developments | Online News | Building
China in joint deal to build Piraeus container terminal - FT.com
U.S. Bridges, Roads Being Built by Chinese Firms Video - ABC News
New San Francisco bridge built in China to be shipped to US - Telegraph

Fineset Chinese porcelain tea set

That was brutal, bro.

 

[esolve]

See the point? This is typical Chinese bragging about their achievement. If some how, some day they did pass the U.S. and Japan, you will see load of Chinese on internet spamming similar posts "Yeh I am top of the world, you westerners decline, inferior...etc."

What funny these Chinese never think, when they compare Vietnam with China? One country with limited fund and one country with massive fund, tax of 1.3 billions people. What Vietnam lack of is fund. If I am Chinese I will be shame of my country of 1.3 billions people and tax but far behind Japan a country of 90 million, and U.S. 300 millions peopole.

See we Viet ever compare us with Cambodia? a country with 16 millions? No, we strike to be like Japan we compare ourself with Japan and see how lag us behind. We don't do monkey jump up and down on internet whenever something come out of country. Sure we might share our achievement but we don't do "monkey comparison" like many Chinese does, boasting, bragging, make it like world greatest invention and that so superior, other inferior.

And here how we answer to your "greatest invention". That is only use by Chinese. So keep doing good job boasting. To this point all your tech are just copy cat and use widely by 1.3 billion Chinese, nothing break through yet.

For Chinese tech companies overseas, China is a toxic brand

we are comparing India with vietnam, not China with vietnam
where do you get the illusion that we compare with you?
vietnam should be ashamed that China is 14 times population of vietnam while our GDP per capita is nearly 4 times that of yours

BTW, YOU STILL DIDN'T ANSWER ME
so Samsung did innovation?
then Huawei didn't?
Xiaomi didn't?

tell the difference between them, please!
Samsung is successful in marketing, that is because it started internationalization earlier, it is not because of innovation.

 

[Keel]

That was brutal, bro.

Well just to eradicate the systemic China-bashing and baseless accusations of the haters if I can
Nothing personal

Oil on canvas painting 长江 Chang Jiang
Painter：孙洪书 Sun Hongshu

 

[sinaloa]

See the point? This is typical Chinese bragging about their achievement. If some how, some day they did pass the U.S. and Japan, you will see load of Chinese on internet spamming similar posts "Yeh I am top of the world, you westerners decline, inferior...etc."

What funny these Chinese never think, when they compare Vietnam with China? One country with limited fund and one country with massive fund, tax of 1.3 billions people. What Vietnam lack of is fund. If I am Chinese I will be shame of my country of 1.3 billions people and tax but far behind Japan a country of 90 million, and U.S. 300 millions peopole.

See we Viet ever compare us with Cambodia? a country with 16 millions? No, we strike to be like Japan we compare ourself with Japan and see how lag us behind. We don't do monkey jump up and down on internet whenever something come out of country. Sure we might share our achievement but we don't do "monkey comparison" like many Chinese does, boasting, bragging, make it like world greatest invention and that so superior, other inferior.

And here how we answer to your "greatest invention". That is only use by Chinese. So keep doing good job boasting. To this point all your tech are just copy cat and use widely by 1.3 billion Chinese, nothing break through yet.

For Chinese tech companies overseas, China is a toxic brand

too bad dear Nam dismissed my genuine curiosity.
I'd really love to see Dai Nam and its Nams who're well known for their creativity, other than talking down to neighbors and indulging in peeves, try a little bit harder to being creative and honest. Making solid plans and get things done, better yet, launching more Nam-made satellites and astro-Nams into orbit, you know, some real triumphs that you can bragging about, and earned you Dai Nam a welcome acknowledgment from Nihon and Murica that Dai Nam is no longer just a pawn in their proxy games but a player of their own rank.
Until then, I think it’s better for you Dai Nam Nams to look up to your neighbors and learn from them, and of course, you Nams are always welcome to compare and project yourselves to your capitalist bffs as you like, as if the only prerequisite for becoming top dog was making comparison and projection.

While we’re still on the IT topic, and for your info in case our trivial breakthrough escapes our well informed China specialist Nam, Yes, XiaoMi might has been accused for being an copycat but check this out.

“World’s first batch of mass-produced graphene mobile phones debuts in Chongqing”
please just google it cause I still can't post any links.

See the point? We don’t have to go all the way to rocket science and quantum communications to point out that there’s still some innovations and original ideas pop up in your neighbourhood.

 

[ComradeNam]

Whatever

we are comparing India with vietnam, not China with vietnam
where do you get the illusion that we compare with you?
vietnam should be ashamed that China is 14 times population of vietnam while our GDP per capita is nearly 4 times that of yours


Xiaomi didn't?

tell the difference between them, please!
Samsung is successful in marketing, that is because it started internationalization earlier, it is not because of innovation.

What Xiao Mi innovation? Snap Dragon? or Android OS? Your Xiao Mi copied a lot from Iphone you know that right? What famoust Xiao Mi outside of China? True Xiao Mi can out sale Samsung and Iphone but with low cost and within China domain. In other word, Xiao Mi is not considered as high end phone instead it is considered as cheap copy cat from Iphone and sale well in China since it is localize to Chinese anyway.

Perhaps you should look outside of your Chinese media to see how others see your Xiao Mi. Let not disappointing you, none of your phone success in Vietnam, don't bother talk about Japan or U.S. or Korea. They see your Xiao Mi as crap. Only popular among Chiense.

Instead of reading from Chinese media and think that the world is worship your Xiao Mi. You may look at out side which more important.

Cult of Android - Apple copycat doesn't like being copied

Cult of Android - 7 things copycat Xioami blatantly ripped off from Apple

Xiaomi faces copycat charge from Japanese company over new air purifier | PCWorld

China's Xiaomi unveils copycat 'Mi Pad' in bid to take on Apple's iPad

I can pull of hundred similar article. Is that you Chinese being proud of ? being called a clone and copy cat see how western think of your superior Xiao Mi gonna take over the world.

 

[esolve]

Whatever

What Xiao Mi innovation? Snap Dragon? or Android OS? Your Xiao Mi copied a lot from Iphone you know that right? What famoust Xiao Mi outside of China? True Xiao Mi can out sale Samsung and Iphone but with low cost and within China domain. In other word, Xiao Mi is not considered as high end phone instead it is considered as cheap copy cat from Iphone and sale well in China since it is localize to Chinese anyway.

Perhaps you should look outside of your Chinese media to see how others see your Xiao Mi. Let not disappointing you, none of your phone success in Vietnam, don't bother talk about Japan or U.S. or Korea. They see your Xiao Mi as crap. Only popular among Chiense.

Instead of reading from Chinese media and think that the world is worship your Xiao Mi. You may look at out side which more important.

Cult of Android - Apple copycat doesn't like being copied

Cult of Android - 7 things copycat Xioami blatantly ripped off from Apple

Xiaomi faces copycat charge from Japanese company over new air purifier | PCWorld

China's Xiaomi unveils copycat 'Mi Pad' in bid to take on Apple's iPad

I can pull of hundred similar article. Is that you Chinese being proud of ? being called a clone and copy cat see how western think of your superior Xiao Mi gonna take over the world.

you are so ridiculous.

we are talking about innovation, why do you change to the marketing issue? Price is due to brand-building, samsung has a long history, and thus has a sound brand. But here, we are talking about innovation. It is you who started the innovation/technology topic, why turn to marketing?

I ask you again: what are the differences between Oppo/Xiaomi/Huawei and Samsung in terms of innovation?
China of course have high-end products, Huawei's telecom infrastructure equipments are high-end now, DJI drone is also high-end.

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