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" US Congress Tables Bill Seeking To Monitor Democratic Progress In Hong Kong"
The majority of HKers should stage a protest against US' meddling into China's internal affairs
BBC News - Hong Kong protest leaders denied Beijing flight
Three pro-democracy student leaders from Hong Kong have been stopped from boarding a plane to Beijing.
They had hoped to meet China's leaders as part of their push for greater democracy, but were told at the airport that their travel permits were invalid.
Protesters have been camped out on the streets of the territory since late September.
They want Beijing to allow more candidates to stand in the territory's next leadership election in 2017.
The group were greeted at the airport by fellow democracy activists, who unfurled yellow umbrellas - a symbol of Hong Kong's democracy movement.
They were led by Alex Chow, who heads the Hong Kong Federation of Students, which has played a key role mobilising the protests
The three said they wanted to talk directly with national leaders because so far, the Hong Kong government has told them it is powerless to offer them any concessions.
A spokeswoman for the students said they were prevent from getting on the plane because their return permits had been cancelled.
Beijing has in the past blocked Hong Kong activists from travelling to mainland China.
'Naive'
The BBC's John Sudworth in China says few observers thought the student leaders had any chance of making it out of the arrival hall at Beijing airport, let alone securing a meeting with Chinese Premier Li Keqiang.
An editorial in China's state-run Global Times, written before the activists were stopped, said the group were "naive".
Hong Kong's Occupy Central movement had "failed", the editorial concluded. The protests drew tens of thousands to the streets at their peak.
A few hundred people remain at three key protest sites in organised "tent cities", complete with infrastructure such as food stalls, toilets and study areas.
total failure, just making a fool out of themselves. What's next? Occupy Chep Lap Kok?LMAO. A pathetic endeavor destined to failure from the get go. What world leader would deign to meet with a bunch of retarded students that, given their extracurricular activities, won't even graduate? If any Chinese leader of rank met with those students, he'd be granting them legitimacy. Even a political novice like me can see that. Some leaders these occu-tards have. These brats should go home before their dinner gets cold and their moms whoop their collective butts.
total failure, just making a fool out of themselves. What's next? Occupy Chep Lap Kok?
BBC News - Hong Kong protest leaders denied Beijing flight
Three pro-democracy student leaders from Hong Kong have been stopped from boarding a plane to Beijing.
They had hoped to meet China's leaders as part of their push for greater democracy, but were told at the airport that their travel permits were invalid.
Protesters have been camped out on the streets of the territory since late September.
They want Beijing to allow more candidates to stand in the territory's next leadership election in 2017.
The group were greeted at the airport by fellow democracy activists, who unfurled yellow umbrellas - a symbol of Hong Kong's democracy movement.
They were led by Alex Chow, who heads the Hong Kong Federation of Students, which has played a key role mobilising the protests
The three said they wanted to talk directly with national leaders because so far, the Hong Kong government has told them it is powerless to offer them any concessions.
A spokeswoman for the students said they were prevent from getting on the plane because their return permits had been cancelled.
Beijing has in the past blocked Hong Kong activists from travelling to mainland China.
'Naive'
The BBC's John Sudworth in China says few observers thought the student leaders had any chance of making it out of the arrival hall at Beijing airport, let alone securing a meeting with Chinese Premier Li Keqiang.
An editorial in China's state-run Global Times, written before the activists were stopped, said the group were "naive".
Hong Kong's Occupy Central movement had "failed", the editorial concluded. The protests drew tens of thousands to the streets at their peak.
A few hundred people remain at three key protest sites in organised "tent cities", complete with infrastructure such as food stalls, toilets and study areas.
You don't make any sense. Chinese influence made you compromise your democratic principles for renewed access to Chinese markets. You Brits sold out, basically, by refusing to meet with the Dalai Lama and essentially apologizing for even having contemplated further interaction with him. All so you wouldn't be shunned by China. That's a clear demonstration of Chinese influence over Britain. Did you even read the article?
As for the Dalai Lama living in India, if you were even the slightest bit informed, it is he who wants back into China and it is he who wants negotiations with China. China is operating from a position of power and is waiting for him to die, while refusing to acknowledge his existence in the meantime. China has all the leverage yet you come to the complete opposite conclusion somehow.
With regards to Snowden, Hong Kong let him stay there until he decided to go to Russia. US officials were pressing to get him back but no dice. China effectively said "FU" to the US and let the local Hong Kong authorities handle it. That's a slap in the face if I ever saw it. Trivialize, what to Americans, amounted to a huge national security issue by letting local cops take care of Snowden's protection and refusing to allow American authorities to see him. I mean, you had your chance to nab him - Britain should have used its "almighty influence" (according to you, and you alone) over Hong Kong, yet Hong Kong let him leisurely choose his place of residence and he left after exposing a ton of western secrets publicly and privately giving Chinese intelligence agencies a bunch of classified materials. I fail to see how you claim that as a Western victory? Delusion again?
As for the Hong Kong protest thing, you said "you still dont have any credible secret service to even maintain law and order in your own country from external/foreign powers like we have witnessed in Hong Kong." News flash, it's not illegal to protest in Hong Kong. It was orderly and there was no rioting. It's the same in the UK. That's why people have flown the ISIS flag in downtown London even in the aftermath of foreign jihadis murdering British soldiers on their own soil. (talk about not being able to maintain law and order ) Freedom of expression and assembly is a hallmark of "democratic societies" yes? I assume you understand that simple truth since you say you're British. In which case, why is it a law and order issue when people are exercising their legal rights in an orderly manner?
People who broke any laws during the protests were arrested and the protests died out on their own after gaining no traction amongst the vast majority of Hong Kong residents. From hundreds of thousands of protesters to a few hundred today with the remaining few agreeing to police instructions to not block roads or storefronts. That's why they were all hanging out under bridges like homeless people last week and that's why they're in front of the British consulate now. Legally protesting British weakness and inability to effect any democratic change in Hong Kong while your British officials cower in shame at their utter impotence. So much for British influence.
So basically you've disproved none of my points and managed to look uninformed in the process. Congrats? It's clear we're talking past each other at this point.
P.S. It's not the job of the "secret service" to handle protesters, either in China or the United States. Do you even know what a "secret service" does before you claim that China doesn't have one? Scratch that, you obviously have no idea. Seriously, my friend, you need to do some reading and educate yourself before you post anymore in the future. Just some friendly advice
A nice overall primary education which the almighty UK apparently lacks. The problem is, the guys insists not to learn.
from one PDFer to another. Cheers bud.
Ladies and Gentlemen, a good news ... soon HongKong police start to clean all protesters on streets ... next week watch the HongKong Show on time.
Ladies and Gentlemen, a good news ... soon HongKong police start to clean all protesters on streets ... next week watch the HongKong Show on time.
APEC is over, HongKong police get ready ... !