China has no military presence in Lanka: SL assures India

[Gibbs]

One more thing -

LTTE stored all its arms and ammo in floating warehouses in high seas and other islands - to be brought over to Sri Lanka only as much as needed.
Indian Navy blocked all arms supply routes to LTTE and passed information to SL when these warehouses were identified. SLN then destroyed them.

For domestic political reasons, our military had strict orders to not fire at LTTE.

True.. Both India and the US shared vital intel during the ast stages of the eelam war

SLN destroying them..

 

[Judge]

No you're wrong. It was US that supplied SLN with the locations of the LTTE floating warehouses. And it was them that rejected SLN offer to destroy them. However if IN knew about the floating warehouses they could've easily sunk them because those floating warehouses were stationed at international zone many miles from both India and SL. No one would have known if the floating warehouses were destroyed.

No Sir.
IN was the one carrying out the ops in and around Lanka and particularly the Straits region to find these warehouses.
And SLN went and destroyed many a warehouses whenever we identified them.

The Congress Govt was entirely dependent on DMK for its survival. DMK was holding cabinet portfolios in the GoI(Govt of India)
It could not be hidden.

The compromise worked out between Congress and DMK was that India would not fire directly on any LTTE cadre/fighter/ship and in return DMK would only slightly raise the issue in TN instead of making it a mass issue.

 

[Gibbs]

No Sir.
IN was the one carrying out the ops in and around Lanka and particularly the Straits region to find these warehouses.
And SLN went and destroyed many a warehouses whenever we identified them.

The Congress Govt was entirely dependent on DMK for its survival. DMK was holding cabinet portfolios in the GoI(Govt of India)
It could not be hidden.

The compromise worked out between Congress and DMK was that India would not fire directly on any LTTE cadre/fighter/ship and in return DMK would only slightly raise the issue in TN instead of making it a mass issue.

India had to deal with domestic political compulsions while providing covert support to GOSL.. And to their credit they did.. Probably there would have been a school of thought about the past mistakes in foreign policy via Indira doctrine, Which India herself had to pay with dire consequences.. But nobody can argue against the support provided by India during the last stages

 

[Judge]

India had to deal with domestic political compulsions while providing covert support to GOSL.. And to their credit they did.. Probably there would have been a school of thought about the past mistakes in foreign policy via Indira doctrine, Which India herself had to pay with dire consequences.. But nobody can argue against the support provided by India during the last stages

Yes. LTTE bit us back hard.

That said, you must also remember, that LTTE was supported by India for a purpose. The cause was SL getting cosy with US and Pakistan which was harming Indian security.

SL no longer does that. As I said, as long as India's security is a priority for Lanka, Lanka's security will be a priority for India. There is an opportunity now to focus on what is important - grow economically and bring prosperity to our people.

 

[HeinzG]

True.. Both India and the US shared vital intel during the ast stages of the eelam war

SLN destroying them..

SLN didn't have any weapons to destroy these bulk carriers other than 25mm cannons. Therefore they improvised by using MBRL tubes and speed boats armed with RPG launchers.

No Sir.
IN was the one carrying out the ops in and around Lanka and particularly the Straits region to find these warehouses.
And SLN went and destroyed many a warehouses whenever we identified them.

The Congress Govt was entirely dependent on DMK for its survival. DMK was holding cabinet portfolios in the GoI(Govt of India)
It could not be hidden.

The compromise worked out between Congress and DMK was that India would not fire directly on any LTTE cadre/fighter/ship and in return DMK would only slightly raise the issue in TN instead of making it a mass issue.

Those boats and ships came closer to SL mainland and the strait weren't the warehouses itself. Those were the conveyors. Much smaller than the warehouses, carrying smaller amount of cargo to minimize the loses. The bulk carriers or mother ships stayed in the deep ocean refilling the conveyors. That is why those bulk carriers couldn't be attacked by SLN.

 

[Gibbs]

SLN didn't have any weapons to destroy these bulk carriers other than 25mm cannons. Therefore they improvised by using MBRL tubes and speed boats armed with RPG launchers.

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Thats epic!!

 

[gau8av]

True.. Both India and the US shared vital intel during the ast stages of the eelam war

SLN destroying them..

cool footage, when's it from ?

back in the late 90s I did a merchant marine navigation course in Colombo, I was among a handful of overseas kids but most of the class were SLN cadets. We used to joke about how they're all going to go kill the LTTE

I'm +1 for Sri Lanka doing it's own thing in the region, be like the political equivalent of Switzerland in the Indian subcontinent/Asia/China region

great people, great country

SLN didn't have any weapons to destroy these bulk carriers other than 25mm cannons. Therefore they improvised by using MBRL tubes and speed boats armed with RPG launchers.

cool, but those aren't exactly bulk carriers

on topic

"It is a conventional submarine, not a nuclear submarine," Perera said.

that's all well and good but what kind of firepower is it packing ?

@Chinese-Dragon .. give us the scoop, what kind of sub, what's it carrying and how have they been refueling to reach these distant shores ?

think there was another thread here but I can't find it

 

[Armstrong]

US wasn't supplying us with intel on LTTE on most occasions. They only did it when they realized the danger posed by LTTE floating ammo depots. On the other hand US nor any Western country prohibited LTTE fundraising. They still don't.

We should never forget the help Pakistan has given to us in 2000. When our troops were fighting desperately in Jaffna.

No you're wrong. It was US that supplied SLN with the locations of the LTTE floating warehouses. And it was them that rejected SLN offer to destroy them. However if IN knew about the floating warehouses they could've easily sunk them because those floating warehouses were stationed at international zone many miles from both India and SL. No one would have known if the floating warehouses were destroyed.

Sri Lanka is the envy of South Asia because no other country in this region has managed such exceptional economic and social indices (compared to the rest of us) as Sri Lanka has while battling the scourge of terrorism for decades !

You guys have my utmost respect and admiration !

Inshallah - God Willing - you have a Bright Future ahead of you as the Asian Tiger you guys are !

@Gibbs @Saradiel @Azizam !

 

[newdelhinsa]

I think we did the right thing in helping them.
I don't think SL will do what they did last time. Times have changed, so has India.

Back then almost all of our neighbours - SL, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Myanmar, China took actions that harmed India directly for a variety of reasons. Today we share good relations with SL, Bangladesh, Myanmar and even China.

Today, our economic capability and our global diplomatic capability has increased exponentially - and we can impose costs to other nations.

And other nations see this too. There can be no better way to put it than Begum Zia of Bangladesh put it when asked by a reporter about a year back - about why India should trust her and her party when they openly indulged in anti- India behaviour when they were in power.

She said (I paraphrase) - India has changed, we recognize that. The old ways can not be carried into the future.

As long as SL takes steps to ensure India's security, India will take steps to ensure SL's security and together we can take South Asia out of poverty.

Very soon you will find even in this very thread how futile it is for you and every other Indian for that matter to be predicting about others and issuing NOC's on their would be behaviors.

In diplomacy there are never permanent friends and you never convince your self that people will react in a certain way.

Furthermore you have be a keen watcher of Geo politics before you can afford to comment on such complex issues. The first step is to start watching the money trail.

 

[Kiss_of_the_Dragon]

Indeed India needs assurance that China has no military presence in Lanka in order to have some reliefs .

 

[Atri Ganguly]

get off our ocean you commies .

 

[Kiss_of_the_Dragon]

get off our ocean you commies .

Oh I forgot Indian Ocean is Indian's Ocean

 

[Pak_Sher]

SL is better off as a peaceful third country that has good ties with all of its neighbors. We don't want them to get involved in something that needlessly spoils our relations. While they as a sovereign nation are free to pursue their ambitions of being independent and attract Chinese engagement, it should not harm anyone else.

Last time, we had a very unpleasant situation between us due to another issue that became a big problem for both of us.

SL should be like Singapore; mingle with everyone and keep out of all international tensions, growing peacefully and unaffected.

Yes it is great for Indians to state this because before India was funding the LTTE for 35+ years and wanted to break Sri Lanka in 2 pieces.

 

[Atri Ganguly]

Yes it is great for Indians to state this because before India was funding the LTTE for 35+ years and wanted to break Sri Lanka in 2 pieces.

you didn't even read the whole thread did ya ? you have zero idea what LTTE problem was . funding LTTE ? even the lankans won't agree with that idiot . and pakistani don't get to talk . world knows you as breeding ground of terror . Osama was found in Pakistan , you are still hiding Dawood .

Oh I forgot Indian Ocean is Indian's Ocean

no it's not but since we have our name in it do not spoil it with your filthy commie subs .

 

[chhota bheem]

Oh I forgot Indian Ocean is Indian's Ocean

Have you seen the 9 dash line.