China has launched a massive campaign of cultural extermination against the Uighurs

[zectech]

Do the Anatolian Greeks & Romans pride themselves in being Central Asian Turks. Or do they cling to their Eastern Roman Empire cultural past and speak Greek and Roman.

Once Turkey is Greek Culture again and language again, then the Turks can start complaining. And once Greek again, the Greek Anatolians will figure out the Central Asian Turks erased our Roman culture, we don't particularly care about the Central Asian Turks.

 

[Foxtrot Delta]

Pakistanis can stand with anyone they want, and honestly no sane person would expect them to prefer Turks over Chinese, money rules the world after all.

But we have a problem when you come here and accuse everybody of lying and slandering just to protect your iron brother. Under Xi China is become more repressive even against han population i dont even want to imagine how minorities do, What China does in Xingjiang is clear as daylight so call it whatever you want and believe in whatever you want.
I stand to what i say even if it might have offended some here, still better than pretending to be in lala land.

We investigated and then asked for proof from wrst also. No one could give proof or evidence. So we investigated on our own and we dismiss the propaganda. Only people who are in trouble with chinese government who favor turk nationalistic seperate east turkistan country, by dividing China. Those are termed as seperatist and they killed innocent people in many occations. Remind me what turkey, nato or western countries like usa do to terrorists?? Oh yea you drop mother of all bombs kn them and destroy their countries...

What is china doing? Re-educating them not killing them. I say we shou ld follow this example! I would be so happy if indians start re-educating kashmiris instead of killing us!

Besides terrorists ordinary chinese citizens have no problem. And we are no one to interfere in a soverign nations affairs. Lest they start supporting kurdistan movment in turkey you should be careful.

 

[zectech]

This is like Native Americans complaining the jews are trying to replace the white dominant culture in Amerikka with Hispanic culture.

Native Americans would never do so, they would laugh at the Amerikkans. Only if Native Americans were made to think they are Celtic whites and their Native American past was erased like happened to the Anatolian Turks with their Greek Language and past, will they go crazy over Hispanic culture replacing Amerikkan culture in the States.

 

[xenon54 out]

We investigated and then asked for proof from wrst also. No one could give proof or evidence. So we investigated on our own and we dismiss the propaganda. Only people who are in trouble with chinese government who favor turk nationalistic seperate east turkistan country, by dividing China. Those are termed as seperatist and they killed innocent people in many occations. Remind me what turkey, nato or western countries like usa do to terrorists?? Oh yea you drop mother of all bombs kn them and destroy their countries...

We have heard those stories enough, for China even women and children are terrorists, the number of Uyghur refugees who come as far as Turkey speaks volumes, stop spreading fairy tales.

What is china doing? Re-educating them not killing them. I say we shou ld follow this example! I would be so happy if indians start re-educating kashmiris instead of killing us!

Whatever re-educating means for China.

 

[Foxtrot Delta]

We have heard those stories enough, for China even women and children are terrorists, the number of Uyghur refugees who come as far as Turkey speaks volumes, stop spreading fairy tales.


Whatever re-educating means for China.

Why do they go to turkey? We are next doors we share a huge border we have people going on bikes and buses etc chinese get easy visa on arrival on the border with pakistan and kazakhistan, why and how do they go to turkey in masses and not come to pakistan, not go to kazakhistan or move with in china to other provinces? This is just bull crap to me. Habe you visited or lived in china? Xinjiang? I have.

Do you have friends and relatives in china or xinjiang? I have. Can u make a fone call right now and ask if they have a problem? Or use wechat or qq and ask them if they are okay? Have a video call? I do that everyday. If there was a problem we would know. I would know.

Anyways i forgot i was tired and planed not to reply on this thread. Just buzz off i used to love turks now people like you have given me a negative image of turks . im a pakistani kashmiri who have lived in xinjiang and goes back and forth often.
Will u trust a muslim brother from pakistan or will you trust someone from united states or european countries? I expect you to believe me or take a camera a cell phone and go visit Xinjiang it takes less than a 1000$ go im sure turks will give u a 1000$ to visit xinjiang and see for urself. Easy.

You are a turk, a brother to me i would never advise you negatively. I want whats best for u and me. I advise u to investigate urself dont trust western media and propaganda. Its for you to decide. I respect and love u as u are a turk. I would hate to see problems among turks & chinese. Good brothers of pakistan.

 

[Oublious]

uyghur tur

Why do they go to turkey? We are next doors we share a huge border we have people going on bikes and buses etc chinese get easy visa on arrival on the border with pakistan and kazakhistan, why and how do they go to turkey in masses and not come to pakistan, not go to kazakhistan or move with in china to other provinces? This is just bull crap to me. Habe you visited or lived in china? Xinjiang? I have.

Do you have friends and relatives in china or xinjiang? I have. Can u make a fone call right now and ask if they have a problem? Or use wechat or qq and ask them if they are okay? Have a video call? I do that everyday. If there was a problem we would know. I would know.

Anyways i forgot i was tired and planed not to reply on this thread. Just buzz off i used to love turks now people like you have given me a negative image of turks . im a pakistani kashmiri who have lived in xinjiang and goes back and forth often.
Will u trust a muslim brother from pakistan or will you trust someone from united states or european countries? I expect you to believe me or take a camera a cell phone and go visit Xinjiang it takes less than a 1000$ go im sure turks will give u a 1000$ to visit xinjiang and see for urself. Easy.

Stfu with your story, Turks live in Southern east part of xjinjang. Ther are enough video about the camp, still you come with stupid arguments. xjinjang is big, the Turks live on the south east side. I bet you have never go to ther, next time go to south east of xjingjang.

 

[Foxtrot Delta]

uyghur tur


Stfu with your story, Turks live in Southern east part of xjinjang. Ther are enough video about the camp, still you come with stupid arguments. xjinjang is big, the Turks live on the south east side. I bet you have never go to ther, next time go to south east of xjingjang.

Lol i go all over xinjiang. They live all over the country not just south east. South east would be hotain area my cousins live there furqan jaan and qamal jaan.

There is also kunlun region. Around there been there too. Uyghur are all over xinjiang not just south east xinjiang. Iv lived in urumqi, hotain, yili, kashghar and aksu are also in south east iv visited and stayed there too, i had a female class mate Gulshan from there and her younger sister zamurd i still have their wechat . Very nice and traditional people.

U seem like u know xinjiang ever been there? Next time i go in october 2019 i will surely make a video for you guys .

Anyhow thats about the time and energy i can give to this here. I hope every muslim in the world can ask their governments about their rights. Sadly for us kashmiriz indian government doesn't let us decide what we want. All we want is a vote to show we wajt to be with pakistan. India doesnt allow it. Please help us kashmiriz peace. Salam u alaikum. Im not indulging in this political garbage again. Im out.

 

[xenon54 out]

Why do they go to turkey? We are next doors we share a huge border we have people going on bikes and buses etc chinese get easy visa on arrival on the border with pakistan and kazakhistan, why and how do they go to turkey in masses and not come to pakistan, not go to kazakhistan or move with in china to other provinces? This is just bull crap to me. Habe you visited or lived in china? Xinjiang? I have.

Do you have friends and relatives in china or xinjiang? I have. Can u make a fone call right now and ask if they have a problem? Or use wechat or qq and ask them if they are okay? Have a video call? I do that everyday. If there was a problem we would know. I would know.

Anyways i forgot i was tired and planed not to reply on this thread. Just buzz off i used to love turks now people like you have given me a negative image of turks . im a pakistani kashmiri who have lived in xinjiang and goes back and forth often.
Will u trust a muslim brother from pakistan or will you trust someone from united states or european countries? I expect you to believe me or take a camera a cell phone and go visit Xinjiang it takes less than a 1000$ go im sure turks will give u a 1000$ to visit xinjiang and see for urself. Easy.

You are a turk, a brother to me i would never advise you negatively. I want whats best for u and me. I advise u to investigate urself dont trust western media and propaganda. Its for you to decide. I respect and love u as u are a turk. I would hate to see problems among turks & chinese. Good brothers of pakistan.

Why would they go to Pakistan, they would get deported back to China in no time and find themselves in one of the ''re-education'' camps.

And if you get negative view of a nation just because one of them refuses to believe your tales then your sympathy was worthless anyways.
I wont have a negative view of Pakistan because of the Pakistanis in this thread but i wont also keep my opinion back even if it might be offensive, espacially when people defend attrocities in favor of own benefit.

I expect you to believe me or take a camera a cell phone and go visit Xinjiang it takes less than a 1000$ go im sure turks will give u a 1000$ to visit xinjiang and see for urself. Easy.

If i would go there i would not even get a hotel room , thats how China is.

So no thanks, there are nicer countries out there that wont threat a guest like a dog.

 

[Foxtrot Delta]

Why would they go to Pakistan, they would get deported back to China in no time and find themselves in one of the ''re-education'' camps.

And if you get negative view of a nation just because one of them refuses to believe your tales then your sympathy was worthless anyways.
I wont have a negative view of Pakistan because of the Pakistanis in this thread but i wont also keep my opinion back even if it might be offensive, espacially when people defend attrocities in favor of own benefit.


If i would go there i would not even get a hotel room , thats how China is.

So no thanks, there are nicer countries out there that wont threat a guest like a dog.

Alright give me proof i will believe u.
So far no one gave proof just bunch of people crying in interviews.. Those could be paid actors for all i know. Tag me if u get proof. I will be the first one to believe u.

 

[xenon54 out]

Alright give me proof i will believe u.

Believe in whatever you want, i dont care.

 

[Foxtrot Delta]

Why would they go to Pakistan, they would get deported back to China in no time and find themselves in one of the ''re-education'' camps.

And if you get negative view of a nation just because one of them refuses to believe your tales then your sympathy was worthless anyways.
I wont have a negative view of Pakistan because of the Pakistanis in this thread but i wont also keep my opinion back even if it might be offensive, espacially when people defend attrocities in favor of own benefit.

So no thanks, there are nicer countries out there that wont threat a guest like a dog.

We fireingers can't get a room in a hotel just like that. Even me as a pakistani can't.

If i would go there i would not even get a hotel room , thats how China is. Its a police law. U need a special card and permit and there are only a few designated hotelz for foreigners all over china not just xinjiang. Its the same if u want to use internet. I remember i got into a fight with a internet guy because of this. But later i learnt how they run their country. Its different than our system yea. But they have so many people they manage differently. The guy in the video just mis-understood i believe . as i dont speak turkish. First he thought it was cuz lf beard but later was told its cuz he is a foreigner not a chinese citizen. Chinese uze Identification card to book hotels and pay bills get on a bus etc those id cards are electronic chips. If u don't get a permit with an electrinic chip u cant do shit in china. Literally cant even take shit

Thats what the friendly smiling chinese were trying to tell him since the first hotel he tried to book. I guess its hard for u to understand cuz u have never been to china.

Anyways get a proof i will trust u. No one in the right mind can deny evidence and proof. Unless they are bad people. May God almighty save me from being a bad person ever.

Peace .

 

[xenon54 out]

Ah... so you don't know anything and just pull "facts" from your behind and call your imagination "clear as daylight." Bravo. I thought Muslims highly value objective truth?

I could posts tonns of links but it would just be brushed off as western propaganda so i just dont bother, neither do i care what others believe or prefer to over see.

Does bold red make my point just as valid as yours?

 

[Bismarck]

Ah... so you don't know anything and just pull "facts" from your behind and call your imagination "clear as daylight." Bravo. I thought Muslims highly value objective truth?

What is a fact to you or what is necessary to accept one? Which kind of evidence do you need?

 

[Feng Leng]

What is a fact to you or what is necessary to accept one? Which kind of evidence do you need?

Show me one ethnic Uighur Chinese citizen who does not advocate for Xinjiang independence but who was imprisoned by the Chinese government.

 

[Foxtrot Delta]

What is a fact to you or what is necessary to accept one? Which kind of evidence do you need?

A proof no sane mind can deny. Dont just show 1 or 10 cases we are talking about a million people as u say, if u show us even 20,000 cases i think i would believe u.

Ah... so you don't know anything and just pull "facts" from your behind and call your imagination "clear as daylight." Bravo. I thought Muslims highly value objective truth?

别跟他们争论 。 我觉得他们来欺负国人。让我们巴基斯坦人 跟他们说。 我觉得这样比较好。