China grows stronger. The US grows weaker. Why?

[beijingwalker]

China= regional power(shared)
US= Hyperpower(sole)

True for now, we always reiterate that we are a developing country. That's our official stand.

 

[takeitwithyou]

We have no intention to invade and control other countries and its people That is why we build Great Wall to protect ourselves while Yankees build 12 CV aircrafts to control the world.
BTW, how is Yankees doing in Iraq and afganistan?!
It is been a while since we China focus only on the ecnomic aspects??

If you do not have any intention then why are Chinese making up this bogus topic. We are doing well in both countries, we have bases in Afghanistan looking at your country and have surrounded China in that region. Iraq is also a permanent U.S. base and ally. Oh, and we also did well in another spot- S China sea and Chinese can't do anything to stop us there.

 

[takeitwithyou]

True for now, we always reiterate that we are a developing country. That's our official stand.

There is nobody who subscribes to your culture, your politics, and your ways to govern as being aspirational.
You have no commonality with any country. Your extent of friendship with countries is based on predatory loans. You will remain a shared regional power, in check eventually by India.

Member countries are part of NATO because they share our vaules. Nobody shares anything with China.

 

[antonius123]

lol do some maths, If we normalize population of both countries then american economy wins hands down.

How do we normalize population of both countries? Dont talk nonsese please.

Btw .... bellow is bad news for "developing nations" :


Automation is set to hit workers in developing countries hard

On Friday, Treasury Secretary Steve Mnuchin said he’s “not worried at all” about artificial intelligence replacing human workers because it's “50-100 more years” off. In reality, data shows this is already happening — with an estimated 38 percent of existing U.S. jobs at risk of being turned over to machines by 2030, according to research from PwC. Another study put out by the University of Oxford last year had similar estimates: The researchers found that 47 percent of US jobs were at risk of automation in the next two decades.

But despite justified fears of obsolescence in the West, it is actually developing economies that are poised to be hit the hardest by fourth Industrial Revolution, or “Industry 4.0,” where machines are networked together in “smart factories” that have little need for human input.

This is already evident in China, where the domestic economy exploded in the last two decades thanks to Western companies that moved their manufacturing operations there. These same factories are now turning to intelligent machines as replacements for human labor. Take, for instance, an electronics factory in Shanghai that has already replaced two-thirds of its human workforce, and plans to become 90 percent automated in the coming years. Or the Foxconn factory that manufactures electronics for companies like Apple, which recently replaced 60,000 workers with robots in a single factory. And these examples are far from anecdotal. China already purchases far more industrial robots than any other country, and by next year will have outpaced the two leading manufacturing nations — the United States and Germany — in terms of the number of industrial robots used in the country.

At a time when manufacturing employment is disappearing across the globe, the fear is that the industrial internet and its automated manufacturing army will lead to mass unemployment. Considering that China accounts for about a quarter of global manufacturing output and employs well over 100 million people in the manufacturing sector, such fears are not unfounded.

A World Bank report found that two-thirds of all jobs in the developing world face being automated out of existence, although the rate that this will happen is uncertain and “depends on the the pace of technological disruption.” Moreover, despite Western fears of the coming robo-apocalypse, the report also notes that the “share of occupations that could experience significant automation is actually higher in developing countries than in more advanced ones, where many of these jobs have already disappeared.”

The question is, assuming that this trend toward the networked automation of factories continues — and there is little evidence to suggest that it won’t — what happens next?
https://theoutline.com/post/1316/fourth-industrial-revolution-developing-economies

 

[Adam WANG SHANGHAI MEGA]

If you do not have any intention then why are Chinese making up this bogus topic. We are doing well in both countries, we have bases in Afghanistan looking at your country and have surrounded China in that region. Iraq is also a permanent U.S. base and ally. Oh, and we also did well in another spot- S China sea and Chinese can't do anything to stop us there.

We are doing very well with our Yongshu Island come and take it！！！！

 

[Adam WANG SHANGHAI MEGA]

And why your close allies UK,Germany,France,ansd so on join AIIB despite of your warnings ????

 

[antonius123]

oh yeah another brainless nonsense. Only India will lose jobs due to automation but chinese wont ? why is that, does china have a population of 50 million ppl instead of a billion ppl?
come back with better argument kid.

Dont you know the reason why China has started using robot massively?

Because it is getting harder and harder to get labour in china now... many people in china less prefer those kind of job, and sallary becoming higher and higher ...... and labour workforce will diminnish fast in the future in china along with the low fertility.

..... this doesnt happen in India

Isn't it sound good argument for you?

 

[Adam WANG SHANGHAI MEGA]

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[takeitwithyou]

Yeah where is you allies in south China sea,where is the so promised Limey,aussie navy,are they so scared??
Come on China is poor and weak ,take it please?!?!

LOL...................................................

So you agree you are bunch cowering Chinese when it comes to us, lol.

 

[Indika]

Dont you know the reason why China has started using robot massively?

Because it is getting harder and harder to get labour in china now... many people in china less prefer those kind of job, and sallary becoming higher and higher ...... and labour workforce will diminnish fast in the future in china along with the low fertility.

..... this doesnt happen in India

Isn't it sound good argument for you?

oh my god , china used up all the 1.2 billion ppl and now they need robots to beat US of A.
Seriously at this rate china's per capita will never match US.

 

[Adam WANG SHANGHAI MEGA]

So you agree you are bunch cowering Chinese when it comes to us, lol.

oh my god , china used up all the 1.2 billion ppl and now they need robots to beat US of A.
Seriously at this rate china's per capita will never match US.

Indians IQ always suprises me day and day！！！！！

 

[takeitwithyou]

Destiny is Yankees Declines,that is why you need so much allies,coz you are weaker and weaker,and time is on our side,you better kill our Chineses all when you still have the chance!!!

LOL........................................

Yes folks, wang is the true reflection of their IQ. And now you boring me with the low quality debate.

 

[Adam WANG SHANGHAI MEGA]

So you agree you are bunch cowering Chinese when it comes to us, lol.

I totally agree with your mom,sister and auties!!!!!

 

[antonius123]

oh my god , china used up all the 1.2 billion ppl and now they need robots to beat US of A.
Seriously at this rate china's per capita will never match US.

Yes, but they are not chasing labour job anymore, they chase engineering and service job

Robot & automation is a threat to India and other developing countries (you know if you read that article I gave previously). But Robot & automation is a helper for China; the reason is because of china's economic maturity and aging demographic, while it is the opposite with India ..

Please read this to educate your self


China badly needs robots to protect its economy from a shrinking labour force, report reveals

Robotics, artificial intelligence and machine learning can help offset China’s productivity decline caused by the shrinking labour force, according to a research report published on Friday.

But the country will face challenges in preparing a large number of workers for the incoming automation age, according to research by McKinsey Global Institute.

Without productivity improvements, China will be short 600 million full-time workers to maintain projected GDP growth rates. But early adoption of automation could lessen the gap by about 100 million, the research suggests. Its projection puts China’s compound annual GDP per capita growth rate at 4.9 per cent.

The ageing population has exacerbated bearish sentiment about the world’s second-largest economy after its working age population fell for the first time in 2012.

The government estimated those aged between 16 and 59 would decline 23 per cent to about 700 million by 2050.
Countries with severe ageing problems have deployed robots in their factories.

South Korea has the world’s highest robot density of 531 industrial robots per 10,000 employees, followed by 398 in Singapore and 305 in Japan, according to a 2016 report by the International Federation of Robotics.

China has a density of 49, but it has been the world’s biggest robot market since 2013, the IFR says.

Beijing has vowed to modernise its factories with more robots under its “Made in China 2025” initiative launched in 2015.

“At this moment, China is investing the most in automation,” Joe Ngai, managing partner of McKinsey’s Hong Kong office, told reporters on Thursday. “I think China will make big progress in adopting automation in the coming years.”

Globally, automation could ease the negative impact from a shrinking work force by raising productivity growth by 0.8 to 1.4 per cent annually, according to McKinsey.

“Roughly half of the sources of economic growth from the past half century will evaporate as populations age,” the report said. “The productivity growth enabled by automation can ensure continued prosperity in ageing nations and provide an additional boost to fast-growing ones.”

Meantime, automation would transform the workplace, as 49 per cent of the work conducted by humans today could potentially be automated with existing technologies, it said.

Accommodation and food services have the highest automation potential, followed by manufacturing, while education is most difficult task for robots, according to the report.

Even chief executive officers can relinquish about 25 per cent their work to machines, the research finds.

The growing presence of robotics in farms, factories and even hospitals has already triggered concerns of rising unemployment.

Disruptive labour market changes, including the adoption of robots, would result in a net loss of 5.1 million jobs by 2020 in 15 leading countries, according to a 2016 analysis by the World Economic Forum.

The new report suggests labour shortages are still more likely than surplus with robots joining the workplace, although countries have to help workers develop new skills suited for the automation age.

In China alone, work activities that can be handed over to machines make up the equivalent of 394 million full-time employees, compared with 1.1 billion globally.

Ngai said workers in the automation age should focus more on communication and management, while machines would be responsible for the repetitive, physical tasks.

“This is not scary at all,” Ngai said. “Automation is not to take away jobs, but to change what workers do on the job. It enables people to do what humans should do.”


http://www.scmp.com/business/compan...s-robots-protect-its-economy-shrinking-labour

So the "US doesn't produce anything and has nothing to offer the world?" Your completely out of touch with reality. Our contribution in space exploration and astrophysics alone obliterates anything China has contributed in the last century.

Go play in your sandbox kid.

On the other hand .... robotized China is a threat for US ..


Wilbur Ross warns China’s drive for industrial automation is a threat to US

Wilbur Ross warns China’s drive for industrial automation is a threat to US fastFT Read next Powell leading in Trump’s Fed chair spectacle Share on Twitter (opens new window) Share on Facebook (opens new window) Share on LinkedIn (opens new window) Print this page September 27, 2017 by Ben Bland While the Trump administration is still trying to tackle Chinese over-capacity in traditional industries like steel, US Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross has warned of the threat from China of future over-capacity in fast-growing sectors like robotics and electric cars. Mr Ross has previously warned that Beijing’s industrial upgrading plan – called “Made in China 2025” – is an “attack” on “American genius”. Speaking to reporters in Hong Kong on Wednesday, after talks with top Chinese officials including Premier Li Keqiang in Beijing, he singled out China’s drive for industrial automation as an emerging threat to the US economy. “Over-capacity is a big problem already and given the 2025 plan and the subsidies that it contemplates for a number of new industries, one of the worries that one has to have is that that may result in future overcapacity,” he said. “For example in robotics, there apparently are something like 400 robotics companies in China right now and people in the industry tell me their estimate is that maybe 360 of those are in it to get the subsidies and tax breaks and are not really that serious about products.” He also warned of a similar problem emerging as Beijing pushes to become a global leader in electric vehicles, on the back of generous government subsidies and protections. Mr Ross said that the Trump administration did not take issue with China’s desire to achieve self-sufficiency in key technologies from robotics to semi-conductors but with the way it was attempting to do so. “If the way they get there is through a free and open, level playing field and it’s a fair match, we’re fine with that,” he said. “We’d be not comfortable with that being accomplished through disrespect for intellectual property rights, through forced localisation, through forced technology transfers.

https://www.ft.com/content/f7b46dc6-d8ba-3acc-8d73-12bef4911074?mhq5j=e6

 

[Indika]

me day and day！！！！！

its day by day, you have high IQ I agree, no two things about it.

offset China’s productivity decline

so it is proved that china has poor productivity now that too is in decline. How will china match US productivity then? Then it case china will never match US per capita. While US does all this with less automation and outsourcing to china. Thats why US is better.