China Forcibly Separating Thousands Of Children From Families In Xinjiang, Report

[Pakhtoon yum]

Censorship and faking news are 2 different things. Western media are master of fakery. I think I do not need to remind you.

Censorship is fake news because it contradicts facts. Try again

 

[055_destroyer]

Censorship is fake news because it contradicts facts. Try again

LOL. Is that a joke? Censorship is just omitting the news and stop talking about it.

While fake news are misleading and twisting facts. They are different things. The one who need to try harder is you.

 

[Pakhtoon yum]

LOL. Is that a joke? Censorship is just omitting the news and stop talking about it.

While fake news are misleading and twisting facts. They are different things. The one who need to try harder is you.

"Omitting the news" is distortion of facts and news. It's like what you did here with the mod. Picking and choosing where the argument started.

 

[vi-va]

Nah man, you have to pick and choose the good from bad, and vice is no good. There are many other reliable sources that you can get info from. Vice is pure propaganda

No matter I agree with you or not on many other topics. Vice's reputation is way to bad. I went through Vice videos with highest views, just as misleading as VOA, totally propaganda.

 

[Dubious]

LOL. Is that a joke? Censorship is just omitting the news and stop talking about it.

While fake news are misleading and twisting facts. They are different things. The one who need to try harder is you.

When you omit important parts or significant negative point it makes the whole narrative unicorns and fairy in utopia....that itself is fake

No matter I agree with you or not on many other topics. Vice's reputation is way to bad. I went through Vice videos with highest views, just as misleading as VOA, totally propaganda.

That I can agree on ....Both have questionable reporting

 

[055_destroyer]

I advice chinese members to stop bullying other nationals


And China is master of censorship.....which kind of ends up resulting to fakery
When you only represent good and no bad like due to censorship that in itself is fakery

That is another one side comment from you. Many times, Chinese members are abused and bully and nothing is done when many times, members pull out concrete facts while other cant give anything besides personal rant.

Ask viva viet whose many troll reply exist and never ban. He is quote by us many times to moderator but seems he is immune to ban.

Once again. Presenting one side is not mount to fakery. You are mixing fake news and censorship together. Ok, let just agree to disagree.

 

[Dubious]

That is another one side comment from you. Many times, Chinese members are abused and bully and nothing is done when many times, members pull out concrete facts while other cant give anything besides personal rant.

I have seen the reports ...Most of the time it is the chinese members who have started it from ridiculing or bullying other members .... reporting only when the other member hurls insults.

Very few times due to previous threads do random members attack chinese members....so fix yourself before complaining about others?

Ask viva viet whose many troll reply exist and never ban. He is quote by us many times to moderator but seems he is immune to ban.

Well take it to GHQ

Put your proof and take it to GHQ but mind you if you take it to GHQ and we take your case we will check all previous posts where you provoked him or bullied him...and if found you did you will also be punished

 

[055_destroyer]

I have seen the reports ...Most of the time it is the chinese members who have started it from ridiculing or bullying other members .... reporting only when the other member hurls insults.

Very few times due to previous threads do random members attack chinese members....so fix yourself before complaining about others?


Well take it to GHQ

Put your proof and take it to GHQ but mind you if you take it to GHQ and we take your case we will check all previous posts where you provoked him or bullied him...and if found you did you will also be punished

No.. viva viet will start called rape of China and pull in unrelated thread post and until now he is still immune and never ban for almost a year. I can quote you many example.

 

[Dubious]

Once again. Presenting one side is not mount to fakery. You are mixing fake news and censorship together. O

So what's censorship in your opinion?
Let me give you an example ...

When China was building 3 gorges dam and saying it was big and going to help China in many ways but none of the reports highlighted the problem. ...now is that not fake news that 3 gorges dam is all good and no bad?

If a Vietnamese member is abused and then he retaliates ...Chinese members complain about retaliation. ...what does this fall under? Are chinese not censoring their doing? Hence presenting a fake narrative?

No.. viva viet will start called rape of China and pull in unrelated thread post and until now he is still immune and never ban for almost a year. I can quote you many example.

Take it to GHQ
Secondly when we give warnings we don't announce them (we hide or censor them) nor can any other member view them, so you saying we do nothing is a lie coz you can't see the censored warning and have a faked impression we do nothing

No.. viva viet will start called rape of China and pull in unrelated thread post and until now he is still immune and never ban for almost a year. I can quote you many example.

Anyway claiming mods do nothing about viva viet is a lie here is a recent example:

@Viva_Viet i admire your optimism no matter how delusional it all sounds. Still it will be much better if you do all this without disrespect or name calling members from other countries. Disrespecting them is only getting you in trouble. So please do plan mining the seas, that much is fine but no more insults aimed at any other member. If you see any other member doing that to you or anyone else, please report the post.

 

[055_destroyer]

Anyway claiming mods do nothing about viva viet is a lie here is a recent example:

I did not claim moderator do nothing. Quote which my post says that? Somehow he can give 10 abuses about China or Chinese members which already mounted to more than 3 strike warning and all reported. But somehow, he will still exist, only post delete and warning given while Chinese members I witness got ban. Of cos he will strike again after not getting banned. Somehow he will continue this cycle. Checkout when was the last time he got a banned and the amount of unrelated and insulting reply he post.

 

[Kai Liu]

Everything has to be such black and white? There cannot be some grey? What if I believe it is not "3 million" but its not "0" either?

I mean the satellite analysis is not looking too good regarding the mosques. Chinese govt has not even responded credibly on that. You really want us to believe its part of regular construction activities in region or something? Why it only started in last cpl years, videos as late as 2015 and even 2016 showed nothing of this scale by 3rd party evidence.....videos easily captured within the mosques and next to them, with large regular prayer activities taking place. Why these places are abandoned now...many even torn down? Or thats all "fake news"?

Western media simply had no bone to chew with you back then before? Or the more simple explanation that there is something going on that started in last couple years?

You telling me absolutely everyone BBC has on interview is some paid actor? Regular Turkish public (where lot of them are hosted) find them credible....they are all just wrong? Chinese govt denies their kids are in custody against the parent's will? If not, then what is going on exactly?

Why does Chinese govt prevent access and entry to lot of areas regarding mosques, schools, camps and such...if nothing nefarious going on there and thus nothing to hide?

Something simply doesnt add up.

The western media has ZERO credibility about China is a proven fact. And they are getting more and more desperate nowadays because they know there is no much time left for them to speak like a Saint (but actually are bitches), as the decline of the west is inevitable and by then, no one will care shit about what they say...

 

[Dubious]

I did not claim moderator do nothing. Quote which my post says that?

You didn't have to day it but you implied it:

Ask viva viet whose many troll reply exist and never ban. He is quote by us many times to moderator but seems he is immune to ban.

that is implied we don't ban him maybe he is smart....you need 3 strikes to land a ban....when you do one mistake you get one strike...that one strike expires after 2 weeks or 1 mth (depending on the severity of the he crime please read forum rules )...so if he does three mistakes in intervals he won't get banned ...I can't check if he is ever banned nor do I know him hat I would remember if he was ever banned ...so either take your case to GHQ or complain when he does some wrong....we font put tags on members nor do we have time to dissect each members posting history

Chinese members I witness got ban.

Yes because Chinese members do not let go and chase after members....many keep abusing until they get three straight strikes...

Checkout when was the last time he got a banned and the amount of unrelated and insulting reply he post

Take your complain to GHQ mods are not here to do your bidding

 

[055_destroyer]

Normal people living their lives, and privately pray to their God doesn't make them ISIS, nor ISIS like.

ISIS calls for and acts upon the death of non-believers; most of the people whom China is going after, do not subscribe to violence or ISIS like behavior and beliefs.

I firmly believe that China is taking the wrong approach, and this is going to back fire. The more your pressure a community, the more resentful they'll become. I believe China is lighting a fire that it cannot extinguish.

Once again. you are diverting my talk. Mixing practicing with religion as ISIS. You are right that ISIS call for violent and death. When did China stop any individual to practice religion? Please provide a concrete source. I do retain the right to rebuke a fake source and prove my point with authentic source and impartial information, right?

 

[SQ8]

@Oscar

Chinese members again trying to malign me as a mod because they can't answer my questions.

Also dragging arguments from precious threads where Chinese members were unable to answer questions and simply blamed me of harming or questioning China the country and its sovereignty..not sure how that happens but it happens in their imagination

Unfortunately, that is the defensive security state mindset ingrained in them. They can't tolerate even the slightest disagreement ; whether from outside or within.

Once again. you are diverting my talk. Mixing practicing with religion as ISIS. You are right that ISIS call for violent and death. When did China stop any individual to practice religion? Please provide a concrete source. I do retain the right to rebuke a fake source and prove my point with authentic source and impartial information, right?

Han muslims practice their religion freely and have no restrictions; as do their counterpart Chinese christians or Buddhists.

The Uyghur issue has Islam linked inexplicably with their separate identity and hence is part of the threat.

Similar issue in Russia and Chechnya.
Chechnyian muslims were bad, Russian muslims holding huge prayers in Moscow are not.

 

[Arsalan]

Thread closed. Rather than discussing the problem and its solution everyone here is more interested in trolling the other side.