China Economy Forum

[Echo_419]

That's a very wrong conclusion. If our new HSR has no new China technology input, how can our train top speed outpace Germany and Japan record. Currently , our HSR still held the world record for fastest speed for a operational HSR. And our HSR average speed is still higher than germany and Japan. That exclude megalev train.

No doubt our HSR is improved on exisiting Japanese and German proven HSR technology. To say there is nothing Chinese input or innovation is an understatement.

Wow I am surprised you gave a answer instead of trolling & agreed China has improved a lot in the Field of HSR

 

[sicsheep]

Net asset value is $ 3 trillion, since China also has an external debt of $ 1 trillion.

Add up the net FDI into china for last 30 years .. if all those foreigners start selling the underlying assets purchased in China, in exchange of the FDI dollars ... you begin to have to either draw down the net $ 3 trillion, or devalue CNY to force foreigners to exit at losses. Btw.. much of the FDI was at 8.2 USDCNY rate. So, those foreigners gave up 1 USD to get 8.2 CNY. Even with zero return in CNY, they can now demand 1.32 USD when they take their money back at 6.2 USDCNY.

When bad things come, they come all together. Foreigners run out with their FDI .... when you have inflation / no growth / excess capacity / no buyers. Or you could have bankruptcies / no bailout / deflation.

Hard choice between a stick and a kick !

not only did you not account for interests on US bond, you forgot desnt matter how much dollar we own, we own way more CNY, so by CNY going up, do you think we actually lose money????
we control USD to CNY value, why do you think US always ask us to stop manipulating the currency, they got no control, unless they can find someone else with more than one trillion to invest in US economy, the most effective way to manipulate the USD is to buy US treasury bonds.

China can only collapse in Indian dreams, we are the biggest trading partner of EVERYONE,

Thank you!

 

[Echo_419]

Modi tender for HSR investment and of cos if feasible, why not we take a look about it?

That is true currently your nation rail operator is conducting a study for HSR in india (Delhi-Chennai route) if it is feasible then surely it will be built most probably with China since you are doing & paying for the study

 

[Beast]

That is true currently your nation rail operator is conducting a study for HSR in india (Delhi-Chennai route) if it is feasible then surely it will be built most probably with China since you are doing & paying for the study

Study is cheap, a few million dollars is nothing compare billion invested in the wrong area.

 

[FairAndUnbiased]

Its funny how Indians think: on one hand, there are millions in India who live in slum homes, and they're debating the "efficiency" of investment into infrastructure. Do you *really* think that in a country of 1.3 billion people, there could possibly be investment surplus?

 

[Echo_419]

Study is cheap, a few million dollars is nothing compare billion invested in the wrong area.

Hence the study

Its funny how Indians think: on one hand, there are millions in India who live in slum homes, and they're debating the "efficiency" of investment into infrastructure. Do you *really* think that in a country of 1.3 billion people, there could possibly be investment surplus?

Yes there can be investment surplus

 

[sicsheep]

China will collapse on their own foot . Look at your wind turbine industry. With shale oil from USA and the price of crude oil so cheap, your wind turbine industry already go burst . China no access to any resources, huge domestic issues and all depend much on Malacca strait. If US navy close this strait, your economy will be gone.

Remember, Japanese attacked Pear Harbor because US NAVY HAD CLOSED MALLACCA STRAIT FIRST

Remember, Japan as A RISING SUN in 80s and made fear in US about Japan overtaking US soon. Look at Japan now, she in deflation for 20 years after the bond crisis

Just US put some marines in Darwin Australia, your dear leader Xi very nervous. History will repeat itself

its OK, we are doing fine without economy advice from Vietnam.

 

[northeast]

Western Bullsh!t at its best.Their skill of twisting things up need to be improved.Not many Chinese will agree with these kinds of Bullsh!t.and you Chinese haters?Say what you want to say.Nobody cares about Gordon Chan,no need to mention his followers in this forum.Ridiculous.

 

[Jeffreyvnlk]

its OK, we are doing fine without economy advice from Vietnam.

Oh no no a proud Chinese listens to no one but himself .As a Vietnamese I glad to see the judgment day of China. It better to be sooner than later. Even Japanese so proud of themselves before . At that time Japan GDP second after US. Japan so strong so proud in 80s

I just speculate. Japan gone, so is China. I just study history and try to project something into future. I don't force or offer any advice to anyone

 

[tranquilium]

Look, if the first paragraph says "But a closer look at how the researchers produced the $6.8 trillion figure badly damages their claim. Calling it a back-of-the-envelope estimate would be undeserved praise", why are you posting this on PDF again?

 

[walle990]

wishful thinking as always, China should have had a "hard landing" no less than a dozen time since the 21st century due to its poor financial system's data or "lack of, to the western standard", but these had always been high on opinions little on analysis. This article nitpicks an OPINION piece, and tries to make sense it to relate better to its targeted audience. If it was anything remotely concrete, the markets would have reacted to it. On the contrary, Chinese A-shares have soared these past weeks.

 

[gslv]

still better than India where even now in 21st century ppl go in muddy roads. there may be some overdoings in china . look what they have done right in 4 decades . we need to be pragmatic. there will always be some chinks in the armor . as a doctor i have seen such poverty most cannot imagine. many old age ppl have asked me poison to commit suicide. man my eyes are full of tears . i am not a fan of socialism. still India need a steep growth curve like China. in this pace we will atleast need a millenia to pass where China is today.

 

[Jeffreyvnlk]

Boy , read more before you sprout rubbish. Close the strait and shut China trade, who will supply the dear American their favourite iphone6 ? China is called the world factory for a reason. The world depend half commodities from China, same as our rare earth material.

Crude oil cheap? Isn't it better? China import less expensive oil, good for China motor industries. Win win situation. I know vietnam and China has some dispute but fact is vietnam still heavily depend on CHina for trade and survival. If China dies, Vietnam will be worst off.

So do I need to repeat the case of Japan for you ? You think US depends on you for I phone ? Give me break.

Do you know 3D printing will make your cheap labor no longer to be a competitive advantage ?
At a bright sunny day US capitalists just outsource to Latin America and all your factories will be idle. Do you know that ?

I just pretty amused to see Japanese so proud like you now in 80s. Hope you learn nothing at all from Japan and your Panda will crumble. Of course China gone and Vietnam will be gone as well but I glad to see the big one gone first

 

[walle990]

Oh no no a proud Chinese listens to no one but himself .As a Vietnamese I glad to see the judgment day of China. It better to be sooner than later. Even Japanese so proud of themselves before . At that time Japan GDP second after US. Japan so strong so proud in 80s

I just speculate. Japan gone, so is China. I just study history and try to project something into future. I don't force or offer any advice to anyone

Please try and draw comparison between the stagnation of japan caused by the overspeculation of assets leading to the bubble exploding to the highly controlled markets of china's state capitalism? You may study history, but you seem to have learn't nothing from it.

 

[Beast]

So do I need to repeat the case of Japan for you ? You think US depend on you for I phone ? Give me break.

Do you know 3D printing will make your cheap labor no longer to be competitive advantage ?
On a bright day US capitalists just outsource to Latin America and all your factories will be idle. Do you know that ?

I just pretty amused to see Japanese so proud like you now in 80s. Hope you not learn anything and your Panda will crumble

Precisely, iphone 6 all are made in China. Where is other iphone made beside China? No China, no iphone. SO as many other electronic products. 90% of the PC, laptop and component are made in China. Give me a break, all those crap about collapse of CHina been talking about 20 years and it only made CHina stronger. Your troll will only made the Panda stronger. Japan is an economic controlled by US. When US master order Japan to revalue Yen, they do it and there goes their history of proud economic power in 80s.

CHina is under nobody controlled. And US can bark about our Yuan but there is nothing they can do about us. China is China, she under nobody control.