China Disputes British Sovereignty Over Falkland Islands; Rattles Both The UK, US With ‘Historic Deal’ With Argentina

[ARMalik]

China and Argentina shoild establish a joint Military base near Falkland Islands. Give a few JF-17, J-10s and 054 Frigates and some missiles to our Argentinian friends, and let the party begin.

 

[Chak Bamu]

Its how mankind works since formation of first human states

Partly true. But increasingly irrelevant. Just look at China. They have crushed extreme poverty & increased their GDP many fold within a generation, without invading anyone. I don't know why you would refer to such old practice as occupying other states & enslaving populations. When was the last time this worked in living memory? Apart from Israel, there is no more officially sanctioned apartheid system anywhere.

Its quite funny that you would say this on a thread that deals with China. LOL....

 

[Abid123]

China and Argentina shoild establish a joint Military base near Falkland Islands. Give a few JF-17, J-10s and 054 Frigates and some missiles to our Argentinian friends, and let the party begin.

Give them a dozen DF-17s also.

Is Argentina interested in taking back the Falklands by force? If they are China should supply them equipment needed. Argentine military would need a decade of modernization.

 

[White and Green with M/S]

Its how mankind works since formation of first human states

Another lame excuse

 

[beijingwalker]

If China sticks to this position, in 10 to 20 years time UK will kiss Falklands goodbye.

 

[UKBengali]

If China sticks to this position, in 10 to 20 years time UK will kiss Falklands goodbye.

Nope as the UK has two huge aircraft carriers that can do serious damage to the Argentines and so that will deter them from trying another invasion.

 

[Apollon]

Partly true. But increasingly irrelevant. Just look at China. They have crushed extreme poverty & increased their GDP many fold within a generation, without invading anyone. I don't know why you would refer to such old practice as occupying other states & enslaving populations. When was the last time this worked in living memory? Apart from Israel, there is no more officially sanctioned apartheid system anywhere.

Its quite funny that you would say this on a thread that deals with China. LOL....c

Partly true. But increasingly irrelevant. Just look at China. They have crushed extreme poverty & increased their GDP many fold within a generation, without invading anyone. I don't know why you would refer to such old practice as occupying other states & enslaving populations. When was the last time this worked in living memory? Apart from Israel, there is no more officially sanctioned apartheid system anywhere.

Its quite funny that you would say this on a thread that deals with China. LOL....

I see this different. China crushed its own people with an extreme form of capitalism that you find nowhere else in the world. Many employments in China are close to what we would call slavery. Add the occupation of Tibet ect and you see that it is same evrywhere.

If China sticks to this position, in 10 to 20 years time UK will kiss Falklands goodbye.

Does China plan to break with Chile and Brazil? Chile for example would be next by Argentina to be attacked.

UK can be calm. The population of Falklands will never accept Argentinian occupation.

 

[beijingwalker]

I see this different. China crushed its own people with an extreme form of capitalism that you find nowhere else in the world. Many employments in China are close to what we would call slavery. Add the occupation of Tibet ect and you see that it is same evrywhere.

What? are you out of your mind? I m in China and we know how we work, where did you get this nonsense?

UK can be calm. The population of Falklands will never accept Argentinian occupation.

Population can change as they they always do in the hisotry.

 

[CAPRICORN-88]

Folks who live in glass houses should never throw stones.

The British shouldn't complained as they were asking for it.

 

[CAPRICORN-88]

For the last 70 year China has never openly stated their stance on all the isles, lands that were illegally seized and occupied by UK or USA including Malvinas until now.

I suspects from now onward things will changed and this is just the beginning.

 

[CAPRICORN-88]

The US and UK like to cite the Rules based International Order by the US as International Law.

Those are not international law but this is. It is by ICJ a UN judiciary body.
Its rulings are enforceable.

ICJ: Britain Must Give Diego Garcia Back to Mauritius

In a 13-to-1 decision, the International Court of Justice has ruled that the UK should give the Chag...

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ICJ: Britain Must Give Diego Garcia Back to Mauritius​

PUBLISHED FEB 25, 2019 7:02 PM BY THE MARITIME EXECUTIVE

In a 13-to-1 decision, the International Court of Justice has ruled that the UK should give the Chagos Islands back to Mauritius, the archipelagic nation that once owned them. The ruling covers Diego Garcia, the strategic American naval base on a British-controlled atoll.

“[The UK's] continued administration constitutes a wrongful act,” ICJ president Abdulqawi Ahmed Yusuf wrote for the majority. “The UK has an obligation to bring to an end its administration of the Chagos archipelago as rapidly as possible and . . . all member states must co-operate with the United Nations to complete the decolonization of Mauritius.”

Britain captured Mauritius from the French in 1810 and ruled it until independence in 1968. Prior to the advent of Mauritian self-rule, Britain separated the Chagos Islands and designated the archipelago an overseas territory. The UK claims that the islands are its own sovereign territory, but allows that they will become part of Mauritius' sovereign territory later (once they are no longer needed for defense purposes).

According to the Permanent Court of Arbitration in the Hague, the British decided to keep the Chagos Archipelago in order to accommodate America's interest in Diego Garcia. The island is an ideal location for a naval station, far from population centers but within reach of multiple theaters in the Middle East, East Africa, Central Asia and the Indian Ocean. Beginning in 1968, the UK and US removed an estimated 1,000-1,500 inhabitants from the island and built a secure military facility, which has served a critical defense function for fifty years. Like the largest Chinese-occupied islands in the South China Sea, Diego Garcia features a military-grade runway suitable for heavy bombers, along with deepwater anchorages, piers, hangars and fuel depots. It is home to a large store of military equipment and munitions stowed aboard Military Sealift Command fleet auxiliaries, part of the Maritime Prepositioning Force program.

In 2017, the UN General Assembly voted to refer the matter of the Chagos' ownership to the International Court of Justice. ICJ has now ruled in Mauritius' favor, but its decision is advisory and non-binding, and the UK's Foreign Ministry said only that it would "look at the detail of it carefully."

The African Union expressed satisfaction at news of the ruling. “It is unthinkable that today, in the 21st century, there is a part of Africa that still remains subject to European colonial rule," AU counsel Namira Negm said in a statement. “The full decolonisation of Mauritius, and of Africa, is long overdue. The ICJ has made it clear that this must be accomplished today and not tomorrow. Only then the Africans can be free and the continent can aspire to live free of colonialism.”

 

[Apollon]

What? are you out of your mind? I m in China and we know how we work, where did you get this nonsense?


Population can change as they they always do in the hisotry.

Oh you plan genocide on Falklands now?

 

[UKBengali]

This discussion is pretty academic as there is nothing that China do to help Argentina recover the Falklands within the next generation at least.

Let us take a look at what the Argentines will have to face if they dared try:


1. 2 QE Class carriers that can easily hold up to 36 F-35Bs each. Surge up to 50 planes.

2. 6 Type-45 destroyers - 48 SAMs of Aster 15/30.

3. 8 upcoming Type-26 frigates - probably the best anti-submarine frigate in the world when it enters service.

4. 7 Astute SSN - equivalent to US Virginia Class as the top SSN in the world

To be truthful, the RN Navy is a force that would feel embarrassed to even fight a 2nd rate power like Argentina as it would be totally one-sided. Argentine Navy and Airforce would be wiped out with little loss to the UK and then the Argentines would not even be able to defend themselves if the UK started destroying power stations and bridges in Argentina using cruise missile and F-35B strikes.

 

[Nan Yang]

Northern Ireland must also be returned to Ireland.

In Northern Ireland, a ‘shift in enthusiasm’ for Irish unity​

Nearly 100 years after partition, prickly issues around Brexit and demographic changes have seen support grow for reunification.

By Ruairi Casey
Published On 9 Mar 20219 Mar 2021

Those marking Northern Ireland’s centenary this summer may find themselves pausing to wonder how many anniversaries it has left.

Driven by demographic shifts and accelerated by Brexit, Irish unity is no longer confined to just wishful nationalists, but now recognised as a serious and pressing issue for governments in Belfast, Dublin and London.

“We’re looking at it within years, not decades,” said John O’Dowd, a politician in the Northern Irish Assembly for Sinn Féin, which supports reunification.

“The demographic and political changes that are happening in the north and across the island of Ireland won’t wait decades. There’s a growing conversation and a growing swell of opinion around it.”

Polls suggest that increasing numbers of people in Northern Ireland, which was created in May 1921 after the partition of Ireland, agree.

A recent survey found that a majority favoured holding a referendum on unity within the next five years, with 47 percent currently in favour of remaining in the United Kingdom and 42 percent supporting a united Ireland. Among the under-45s, reunification led by 47 to 46.

Sinn Féin leader Mary Lou McDonald has urged governments in Dublin and London to begin serious preparations for the possibility that Northern Ireland leaves the UK in the near future.

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In Northern Ireland, a ‘shift in enthusiasm’ for Irish unity

Nearly 100 years after partition, Brexit and demographic change are fuelling growing support for Irish unity.

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The Good Friday Agreement of 1998, which concluded the Troubles, a decades-long civil conflict that claimed thousands of lives, states that the UK government may call a vote if it believes there is a likelihood that most would choose to leave the union and join a united Ireland.

“I think what the polls are picking up is a shift in enthusiasm for the idea of a united Ireland and a shift in enthusiasm for a referendum,” said Brendan O’Leary, a professor at the University of Pennsylvania who has authored several books on Northern Ireland.

“People believe as a result of Brexit that Northern contentment with the world after the Good Friday Agreement is no longer settled and in addition the UK itself is unstable.”

Northern Ireland Protocol​

While most people in England and Wales voted to leave the European Union in the June 2016 referendum, 62 percent in Scotland and 56 percent in Northern Ireland voted to remain in the bloc.

No UK region has been so deeply affected by Brexit as Northern Ireland, whose open border to the neighbouring Republic of Ireland proved the most vexing issue throughout Brexit trade negotiations.

The ultimate compromise was the Northern Ireland Protocol, which in January introduced regulatory and customs checks on imports from the rest of the UK, keeping the North within the EU’s single market and the Irish border free of barriers or checkpoints.

But the new customs arrangements have played havoc with food and parcel deliveries; supermarket shelves have been empty at times and several big British retailers have stopped shipments to Northern Ireland.

The protocol is a “complete disaster”, said Ulster Unionist Party (UUP) leader Steve Aiken, who described growing anger from his constituents, now burdened with unfamiliar paperwork and charges.

Along with the ruling Democratic Unionist Party (DUP), the UUP has vigorously opposed the Protocol and the so-called “sea border”, which it believes has unwillingly pushed northern unionists towards an economically unified island, as well as delivering a boon to the nationalist cause.

“There’s always been a push from people who want to see the British identity on the island of Ireland removed. This is just the latest aspect of it,” said Aiken, who wants politicians to focus on Brexit and the effects of COVID-19, instead of a potentially divisive referendum.

“There are many people who saw Brexit as an opportunity to further try and promote their aims of ripping up the United Kingdom.”

Northern Ireland’s First Minister and DUP leader Arlene Foster has led calls for the protocol to be scrapped or revised as a row between the EU and the UK over its full implementation continues to escalate.


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In Northern Ireland, a ‘shift in enthusiasm’ for Irish unity

Nearly 100 years after partition, Brexit and demographic change are fuelling growing support for Irish unity.

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[Samar111]

Falklands belongs to UK.