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China discourages fasting for Uighur Muslims


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A Muslim man reads the Quran as others listen in a sitting room in Aksu, Xinjiang, China. Xinjiang is home to the traditionally Muslim Uighur ethnic group.—Reuters Photo

BEIJING: China is discouraging some Muslims in the far western region of Xinjiang from fasting during Ramadan. The government says the move is motivated by health concerns, but others said Friday that it’s a risky campaign to secularize the Muslim minority.

Several city, county and village governments in Xinjiang have posted notices on their websites banning or discouraging Communist Party members, civil servants, students and teachers from fasting during the religious holiday.

Regional spokeswoman Hou Hanmin was quoted in the state-run Global Times newspaper Friday as saying authorities encourage people to “eat properly for study and work” but don’t force anyone to eat during Ramadan.

Xinjiang is home to the traditionally Muslim Uighur ethnic group. Long-simmering resentment among Uighurs over rule by China’s Han majority and an influx of migrants has sporadically erupted into violence.

Separatist sentiment is rife, with some Uighurs advocating armed rebellion.

In July 2009, rioting between Uighurs and Han Chinese killed nearly 200 people in Xinjiang’s capital, Urumqi. Uighur activists say the riots were the result of decades of pent-up frustration with Chinese rule.

China has responded by boosting police presence and restricting the practice of Islam – moves that have further alienated many Uighurs and ratcheted up tensions. Over the last few months, authorities in Xinjiang have stepped up a campaign against illegal religious schools, which they believe are fomenting extremism and separatist thought.

Hou, the regional spokeswoman, said battling religious extremism and terror in the region remains a priority.

“Religious extremism is closely related to violence and terrorism, and cracking down on these is one of our top priorities,” Hou was quoted as saying.

Ilham Tohti, a Beijing-based Uighur economist, said restricting participation in Ramadan is not new in Xinjiang but authorities are enforcing the limits more strictly this year, with some areas requiring people to sign pledges that they won’t take part in religious activities.

Tohti said the campaign appeared aimed solely at Uighurs in Xinjiang, noting that Kazakh and Hui Muslims in Xinjiang and Uighurs outside the region face no such restrictions.

At the Central University for Nationalities in Beijing, where Tohti teaches, there have been no warnings against taking part in Ramadan and up to 70 Muslim students, including about 10 Uighurs, gather nightly at a local restaurant next to campus to break their fast, he said.

He said officials may be particularly nervous about potential unrest in the lead up to a once-a-decade leadership transition that will kick off in Beijing in the fall. “As a result they are tightening control measures in many areas, not just religion, but this could give rise to new problems and they may end up with an outcome that is the opposite of what they were seeking,” he said.

Dru Gladney, a professor of anthropology at Pomona College in California and an expert on China’s Muslim minorities, said the campaign against Ramadan seems “a much more public and concerted effort” than in previous years and that in some cases Communist Party leaders were delivering food to village elders to try to get them to break their fast.

“I think it is a misguided effort to try to secularize the Uighurs and my feeling is it will backfire,” said Gladney. “It makes the Uighurs even more angry at the party for not honoring their religious customs.”

China discourages fasting for Uighur Muslims | DAWN.COM

Dawn got this news from the Associated Press. Whether the Associated Press is lying or not, lets wait for more news.

Western newspapers ten to lie a lot.

Intellectually speaking, if you are not forcing to eat, then basically fasting is not banned.

Just some hypocritical Indians jumping on other countries when India is full hypocrisies, like the Kashmiris want freedom in Occupied Indian Kashmir and slaughtering of cows is banned in Gujarat.
 
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Uff.. Yeh China se dosti dikhane ki Tadap.. Would have been funny if it was not so lame ;)

This must be what? 4th thread on defending China.. :lol:

Talk about being a proxy.. and you accuse India for being one of USA :rofl:

I don't know how laws work in China.

Does China claims to be land of freedoms?

lol hypocritical Indians, First give the Kashmiris in Indian Occupied Kashmir their freedom from Indian occupation and let Muslims slaughter cows and eat beef in Gujarat.

Uff.. Yeh China se dosti dikhane ki Tadap.. Would have been funny if it was not so lame ;)

This must be what? 4th thread on defending China.. :lol:

Talk about being a proxy.. and you accuse India for being one of USA :rofl:

How am I proxy, lol its USA thats wants to use India as a counterweight to China. US and India signed the Nuclear deal.

India is the real proxy. lol

btw the way when are you getting your aircraft carrier from Russia, oh wait. Ooops! I forget they raised the price of the aircraft carrier!!! LOL!

First attempt to save china failed, trying second time!

Actually it was some Indians saying that China had banned fasting, when it did not. So its Indians spreading lies and hatred.

No wonder why all your neighbors hate you.

Pakistan, China, Sri Lanka, Bangladesh, and Myanmar all hate India.

Oh by the way Bhutan did make a significant step in bilateral relations with China a little while a go.

Bhuta, the only country India has "decent" relations with. :lol:
 
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china don't allow Muslims to follow their religion properly but fanboys won't listen. :disagree:

BTW, china controls and manipulates in media and opinion on web its a open fact. :smokin:
 
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china don't allow Muslims to follow their religion properly but fanboys won't listen. :disagree:

BTW, china controls and manipulates in media and opinion on web its a open fact. :smokin:

I think in China , the Chinese tries to control and regulate all religions to a certain extend. I ask Chinese members to correct me if I'm wrong.

I am quite ignorant about how the laws and government works in China.

So why do Indian members stop at Islam in China. What about Buddhism, Christianity, Taoism, etc?

But ofcourse Indian members are just hypocrites when they won't let the Kashmiris have their freedom from Indian occupation or won't let Muslim in Gujarat slaughter cows and eat beef.
 
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china don't allow Muslims to follow their religion properly but fanboys won't listen. :disagree:

BTW, china controls and manipulates in media and opinion on web its a open fact. :smokin:

Yes True, Many mosques in China were closed.
 
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LMAO look at this guy, he posted this on the other thread and then comes and starts a similar thread that he himself opened a couple of days back. Height of chamsagiri :lol:

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And what thread did I open two days ago? Care to explain :rolleyes:

btw if you check the post timings I posted my thread only a minute later than his.

And Mine was getting all the attention.

Fireurimagination posted his thread at 12:24, and I posted mine at 12:25.

http://www.defence.pk/forums/world-affairs/200145-china-discourages-fasting-uighur-muslims.html


You should tell whole story.
 
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China discourages fasting for Uighur Muslims


xinjiang_uighur_quran_reuters_1_670.jpg


A Muslim man reads the Quran as others listen in a sitting room in Aksu, Xinjiang, China. Xinjiang is home to the traditionally Muslim Uighur ethnic group.—Reuters Photo

BEIJING: China is discouraging some Muslims in the far western region of Xinjiang from fasting during Ramadan. The government says the move is motivated by health concerns, but others said Friday that it’s a risky campaign to secularize the Muslim minority.

Several city, county and village governments in Xinjiang have posted notices on their websites banning or discouraging Communist Party members, civil servants, students and teachers from fasting during the religious holiday.

Regional spokeswoman Hou Hanmin was quoted in the state-run Global Times newspaper Friday as saying authorities encourage people to “eat properly for study and work” but don’t force anyone to eat during Ramadan.

Xinjiang is home to the traditionally Muslim Uighur ethnic group. Long-simmering resentment among Uighurs over rule by China’s Han majority and an influx of migrants has sporadically erupted into violence.

Separatist sentiment is rife, with some Uighurs advocating armed rebellion.

In July 2009, rioting between Uighurs and Han Chinese killed nearly 200 people in Xinjiang’s capital, Urumqi. Uighur activists say the riots were the result of decades of pent-up frustration with Chinese rule.

China has responded by boosting police presence and restricting the practice of Islam – moves that have further alienated many Uighurs and ratcheted up tensions. Over the last few months, authorities in Xinjiang have stepped up a campaign against illegal religious schools, which they believe are fomenting extremism and separatist thought.

Hou, the regional spokeswoman, said battling religious extremism and terror in the region remains a priority.

“Religious extremism is closely related to violence and terrorism, and cracking down on these is one of our top priorities,” Hou was quoted as saying.

Ilham Tohti, a Beijing-based Uighur economist, said restricting participation in Ramadan is not new in Xinjiang but authorities are enforcing the limits more strictly this year, with some areas requiring people to sign pledges that they won’t take part in religious activities.

Tohti said the campaign appeared aimed solely at Uighurs in Xinjiang, noting that Kazakh and Hui Muslims in Xinjiang and Uighurs outside the region face no such restrictions.

At the Central University for Nationalities in Beijing, where Tohti teaches, there have been no warnings against taking part in Ramadan and up to 70 Muslim students, including about 10 Uighurs, gather nightly at a local restaurant next to campus to break their fast, he said.

He said officials may be particularly nervous about potential unrest in the lead up to a once-a-decade leadership transition that will kick off in Beijing in the fall. “As a result they are tightening control measures in many areas, not just religion, but this could give rise to new problems and they may end up with an outcome that is the opposite of what they were seeking,” he said.

Dru Gladney, a professor of anthropology at Pomona College in California and an expert on China’s Muslim minorities, said the campaign against Ramadan seems “a much more public and concerted effort” than in previous years and that in some cases Communist Party leaders were delivering food to village elders to try to get them to break their fast.

“I think it is a misguided effort to try to secularize the Uighurs and my feeling is it will backfire,” said Gladney. “It makes the Uighurs even more angry at the party for not honoring their religious customs.”

China discourages fasting for Uighur Muslims | DAWN.COM

Dawn got this news from the Associated Press. Whether the Associated Press is lying or not, lets wait for more news.

Western newspapers ten to lie a lot.

Intellectually speaking, if you are not forcing to eat, then basically fasting is not banned.

Just some hypocritical Indians jumping on other countries when India is full hypocrisies, like the Kashmiris want freedom in Occupied Indian Kashmir and slaughtering of cows is banned in Gujarat.

Why Should it discourage? What is their problem? What if Indian government said the same thing?
 
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And what thread did I open two days ago? Care to explain :rolleyes:

btw if you check the post timings I posted my thread only a minute later than his.

And Mine was getting all the attention. So it was not so far fetched to say "already posted."

Fireurimagination posted his thread at 12:24, and I posted mine at 12:25.

http://www.defence.pk/forums/world-affairs/200145-china-discourages-fasting-uighur-muslims.html


You should tell whole story.

Alright you did not start that thread, my bad, but you did post there, so you do know that a thread already exists.

http://www.defence.pk/forums/world-...hopping-western-propaganda-8.html#post3257375
 
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Chinese people are used to be treated as children by the government, so its not surprising that Chinese authorities try to regulate and discourage personal believes.
 
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Chinese people are used to be treated as children by the government, so its not surprising that Chinese authorities try to regulate and discourage personal believes.
Which is actually not correct. I am sure this is what you think. And all chinese think, But dont want to accept it here.
 
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I think in China , the Chinese tries to control and regulate all religions to a certain extend. I ask Chinese members to correct me if I'm wrong.

I am quite ignorant about how the laws and government works in China.

So why do Indian members stop at Islam in China. What about Buddhism, Christianity, Taoism, etc?

But ofcourse Indian members are just hypocrites when they won't let the Kashmiris have their freedom from Indian occupation or won't let Muslim in Gujarat slaughter cows and eat beef.

You are right, the Chinese government control and regulate all religions, but you are still free to believe what you want to believe (except for cults of course).

The problem is, you have to ask for permission for large gatherings, preaching (you will be caught if you distributing leaflets, knock on other people's door and talk about Jesus), and always listen to the party (be good and never stand against them).

I personally support their religious policy, since I'm an agnostic who don't want to be annoyed from cults and "hot-blooded" believers.
 
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