China deletes data, destroys documents after leaks on Uighur camps

[vi-va]

Bangladesh hasn't spoken out for the Uyghurs either on governmental level.But we don't go to other countries to kill Muslims either. Hence, grey.

By your standard, all Muslim countries at least are grey, including Pakistan?

 

[Sehnsucht]

By your standard, all Muslim countries at least are grey, including Pakistan?

Every Muslim country that doesn't speak out when atrocities are being committeed against Muslims anywhere in the world, be it Kashmir or Yemen or Palestine or Afghanistan or Chechnya or Libya or Iraq or Arakan, are grey.

Some countries like Saudi Arabia, UAE are as black as US because they're murdering thousands of Muslims in Yemen & Libya.

 

[Beast]

You're falling for CCP propaganda too then.
In a country like China where the government constantly monitors it's citizens,let alone a heavily monitored place like Xinjiang, do you think thousands of Uyghurs can just go to be terrorists in faraway countries?
Not saying some of them didn't.Or that they didn't return with extreme ideologies in their heads.And China should rightfully execute those extremists.I wholeheartedly support that.

What my beef with China is that they're committing cultural genocide & atrocities to Uyghurs just because they're Muslims.And it's not just Uyghurs, Hui Muslims too are being targeted recently.

CCP propaganda? Do CCP goes around and condemn other countries and tell them how they shall govern their country or install their own version of human right with tell them blatantly this is the only right?

Yah, they are the Kurdish muslim, Baluchistan muslim, Azerbaijan muslim, algeria muslim. You shall poke into all their business.
First of all sever all ties with those countries you claim to have grievences and I started to take your words seriously. Dont be selective of your stance. That will just make your accusation , nothing but working for Jews/US agenda.

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

Israeli murderers, butchers, rapists, and robbers of Palestinians screaming for Uyghurs is the biggest joke I have seen. There is nothing but hate in Zionist hearts for Islam and Muslims.

Only Muslims who have right to speak about Uyghurs are Turks/Turkic countries and Pakistan (esp GB region,) as we share blood/culture relations with Uyghurs, have hosted many of them, and intermarry fairly often with them.

All this CIA funded outrage among Arabs and Indian funded propaganda in BD is just to get us into open conflict with China. Afterwards we will be left all alone to fend for ourselves and get slaughtered like they did in Syria.

It's not an issue of Uyghur independence only, but why now and why CIA-Israel-India and their puppets are pushing for it? Think about it.

 

[War Thunder]

Yah, how about you start posting about Arab Pharaoh regimes like Saudi and UAE which bombs muslim children in yemen (10-20,000) killed and Pakistani labors working in arab countries like slaves and some times dont get paid! oh you cant or else you will be deported out of Dubai.

Apparently I have done several times on this very forum and even angered locals. Feel free to go through my post history and threads I have created. There is never a reason to not call out a wrong thing for the bullshit it is, and to not stand on what is right regardless of the consequences.
So you can keep the sermon to yourself and start with fixing your shit which once again, is immoral and selfishness based hypocrisy.

Israeli murderers, butchers, rapists, and robbers of Palestinians screaming for Uyghurs is the biggest joke I have seen. There is nothing but hate in Zionist hearts for Islam and Muslims.

Only Muslims who have right to speak about Uyghurs are Turks/Turkic countries and Pakistan (esp GB region,) as we share blood/culture relations with Uyghurs, have hosted many of them, and intermarry fairly often with them.

All this CIA funded outrage among Arabs and Indian funded propaganda in BD is just to get us into open conflict with China. Afterwards we will be left all alone to fend for ourselves and get slaughtered like they did in Syria.

It's not an issue of Uyghur independence only, but why now and why CIA-Israel-India and their puppets are pushing for it? Think about it.

So you have problems if an Israeli highlights something Muslims should be doing something about?
Do you see the hypocrisy in that statement? Do you feel ashamed that this thread was posted by him and not you?

Silence the one who speaks about something that is killing Muslims, but stay quiet on your own and be facilitate the process? What level of faith is that mate?

 

[Sehnsucht]

CCP propaganda? Do CCP goes around and condemn other countries and tell them how they shall govern their country or install their own version of human right with tell them blatantly this is the only right?

Yah, they are the Kurdish muslim, Baluchistan muslim, Azerbaijan muslim, algeria muslim. You shall poke into all their business.
First of all sever all ties with those countries you claim to have grievences and I started to take your words seriously. Dont be selective of your stance. That will just make your accusation , nothing but working for Jews/US agenda.

Your IQ must be in single digits if you think I'm looking to be taken seriously by a CCP troll.
I only have grievances with the governments & people who stay silent regarding these issues.Not those entire countries in a whole.

 

[vi-va]

Your IQ must be in single digits if you think I'm looking to be taken seriously by a CCP troll.
I only have grievances with the governments & people who stay silent regarding these issues.Not those entire countries in a whole.

Go abroad and fight for it, don't be a keyboard warrior here. It's easy to say than done. Sitting in front of a screen is useless, it's coward who dare not to do it and bash others.

 

[Beast]

Your IQ must be in single digits if you think I'm looking to be taken seriously by a CCP troll.
I only have grievances with the governments & people who stay silent regarding these issues.Not those entire countries in a whole.

LOL.. Typical tactics. i know I caught your tail and you have nothing to answer for your selective stance. You r working for Jews/US and I am right. So all you can do is hurl insults and me to avoid my inquiry.

True Pakistanis members who love their country to be strong, beware of this snake.

 

[Clutch]

The Xinjiang regional government in China's far west is deleting data, destroying documents, tightening controls on information and has held high-level meetings in response to leaks of classified papers on its mass detention camps for Uighurs and other predominantly Muslim minorities, according to four people in contact with government employees there.

Top officials deliberated how to respond to the leaks in meetings at the Chinese Communist Party's regional headquarters in Urumqi, Xinjiang's capital, some of the people said. They spoke on condition of anonymity because of fears of retribution against themselves, family members and the government workers.

A guard tower and barbed wire fences are seen around a facility in the Kunshan Industrial Park in Artux in western China's Xinjiang region. People in touch with state employees in China say the government in the far west region of Xinjiang is destroying documents and taking other steps to tighten control on information. Credit:AP

The meetings began days after The New York Times published last month a cache of internal speeches on Xinjiang by top leaders including Chinese President Xi Jinping. They continued after the International Consortium of Investigative Journalists worked with news organisations around the world including The Associated Press to publish secret guidelines for operating detention centres and instructions on how to use technology to target people.

The Chinese government has long struggled with its 11-million-strong Uighur population, an ethnic Turkic minority native to Xinjiang, and in recent years has detained 1 million or more Uighurs and other minorities in the camps.

Xinjiang officials and the Chinese foreign ministry have not directly denied the authenticity of the documents, though Urumqi Communist Party chief Xu Hairong called reports on the leaks "malicious smears and distortions".

The Xinjiang government did not respond to a fax for comment on the arrests, the tightened restrictions on information and other measures responding to the leaks. The Chinese Foreign Ministry did not have an immediate comment.

Xinjiang's government had already mandated stricter controls on information in October, before the news reports, according to three of the people, all Uighurs outside Xinjiang.

They include orders for community-level officials to burn paper forms containing sensitive personal details on residents in their area such as their detention status, and for various state offices to throw away computers, tighten management of classified information, and ensure all information related to the camps is now stored on databases disconnected from the internet in special, restricted-access rooms to bar hackers, the Uighurs said.

"They became much more serious about the transfer of information," one said.

Publication of the classified documents prompted the central government in Beijing to put more pressure on Xinjiang officials, several of the Uighurs said.

Restrictions on information appear to be tightening further. Some university teachers and district-level workers in Urumqi have been ordered to clean out sensitive data on their computers, phones and cloud storage, and to delete work-related social media groups, according to one Uighur with direct knowledge of the situation.

In other cases, the state appears to be confiscating evidence of detentions. Another Uighur who had been detained in Xinjiang years before said his ex-wife called him two weeks ago and begged him to send his release papers to her, saying eight officers had come to her home to search for the papers, then threatened she'd be jailed for life if she couldn't produce the papers.

"It's an old matter, and they've know I've been abroad for a long time," he said. "The fact that they suddenly want this now must mean the pressure on them is very high."

Some government workers have been rounded up as the state investigates the source of the leaks. In one case an entire family in civil service was arrested. Abduweli Ayup, a Uighur linguist in exile, said his wife's relatives in Xinjiang - including her parents, siblings, and in-laws - were detained shortly after the leaks were published, although Ayup said they had no relation to the leaks as far as he was aware. Some people in touch with relatives outside China were also investigated and seized, Ayup said.

It is unknown how many have been detained since the leaks.

Earlier this week, a Uighur woman in the Netherlands told a Dutch daily, de Volkskrant, that she was the source of the documents published by the International Consortium of Investigative Journalists. The woman, Asiye Abdulaheb, said that after she posted one page on social media in June, Chinese state agents sent her death threats and tried to recruit her ex-husband to spy on her.

The leaked documents lay out the Chinese government's deliberate strategy to lock up ethnic minorities even before they commit a crime, and to rewire their thoughts and the language they speak. They reveal that facilities Beijing calls "vocational training schools" are forced ideological and behavioral re-education centres run in secret.

The papers also show how Beijing is pioneering a new form of social control using data and artificial intelligence. Drawing on data collected by mass surveillance technology, computers issued the names of tens of thousands of people for interrogation or detention in just one week.

The leaks come at a delicate time in relations between Washington and Beijing, amid ongoing negotiations to end a trade war and US concerns about the situation in Hong Kong, a semi-autonomous Chinese territory where police have clashed with pro-democracy protesters.

Last week, the US House of Representatives overwhelmingly approved the Uighur Human Rights Policy Act, aimed at pressuring China over the mass detentions in Xinjiang. Beijing swiftly denounced the bill as foreign meddling. State media reported that the Chinese government was considering retaliatory measures including visa bans on US officials.

https://www.theage.com.au/world/asi...er-leaks-on-uighur-camps-20191215-p53k3o.html

"David" so concerned about Muslims in China!!! Lol...

What's next?... David concerned about Muslims missing their daily 5 prayers???... Ha,ha.

The same "David" that drops drone bombs on innocent Muslim women and children?... And killed over 3 million Iraqis over a lie about Iraq's Weapons of Mass deduction (WMDs)???


#FakeNews

 

[Sehnsucht]

LOL.. Typical tactics. i know I caught your tail and you have nothing to answer for your selective stance. You r working for Jews/US and I am right. So all you can do is hurl insults and me to avoid my inquiry.

True Pakistanis members who love their country to be strong, beware of this snake.

I have only this to say to you, LOL.

 

[Beast]

I have only this to say to you, LOL.

See!!! BS reply only.

You only want Pakistan and China killed each other. Helping muslim is never your true agenda. I have seen too many snakes like you cover in sheep fur.

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

Silence the one who speaks about something that is killing Muslims, but stay quiet on your own and be facilitate the process? What level of faith is that mate?

You really think that by fighting China right now, Uyghurs will earn anything else but extermination and destruction? It is national suicide and the worst time for such a movement.

If we want freedom for Uyghurs, then why go by the timing and dictates of US, Israelis, and Indians? Look what the West is doing in their propaganda against Hong Kong, a rightful part of China. Even Taiwan which is also Chinese territory.

This is not our battle, don't be a pawn in the game of the West. If we have problems with China, we talk to them directly as friends and allies without need to sully the atmosphere by mudslinging.

With the US and its slaves breathing down the necks of Turkey, Iran, and Pakistan, you really want us to commit political suicide by cutting our ties with China, especially over inflated and fabricated claims coming from CIA sources themselves?

Wake up and look around you. How did it work for Syria, Yemen, Libya, and Iraq?

Go abroad and fight for it, don't be a keyboard warrior here. It's easy to say than done. Sitting in front of a screen is useless, it's coward who dare not to do it and bash others.

They can join CIA funded Peshmerga or Daesh in Xinjiang. You will be provided handsome arms and money to fight their war, but chance of victory is slim. US always abandons their allies.

 

[War Thunder]

I find it extremely funny that China never interfere, meddling other's internal affiars or passing a human right bills, let along "iron brother" Pakistan, we all know Pakistan is not that perfect either, do you see any Chinese members jump into Pakistan's affairs thread and start talking on the high horse?

Pakistan is not holding people in concentration camps, our forces are not raping woman in those camps and not feeding pork to the men. The women are not being forced to have sex with Han Chinese men without marriage and their children are not taken away from them.
If my country was doing this animal level shit to its citizens or any religious group, I will be the first one to stand against it and speak against it and you won't need to.
I follow a faith that demands morality from me and wants me to speak against a wrong and if I don't I am counted with the oppressor and an eternal punishment waits for me.

So coming back to you, your country is being an oppressor and your regime is being cruel and animalistic to these people with what the reports and leaked clips and images keep showing. And if you are trying to protect that then you are no different than an animal yourself. And if this is true as it looks like, then you Chinese are not progressive but animal level degenerates.
And you can't subject Muslims to that kind of an oppression and expect a smooth sailing with other Muslims. My country might be lead by hypocrties and shemales, and inhabited by many as well, including a shuge population of them on this very forum.
But when you are an oppressor then don't tell me to be silent, and feel better knowing posting here about this issue is all I can do for now and others like me who actually care.
And fear the day when you will have to pay back for everything your regime did and everything you choose to be silent about because it all comes back to us.

 

[ARMalik]

Yes of course, China rang this newspaper "The Age" and Told them that they were destroying data and other stuff. ... The level of journalism in these Western newspapers is worst then a filthy leaking toilet. It is frankly shameful to see these media treating their own people like animals with IQ of 10 because this is how stupid these type of articles are.

 

[vi-va]

You really think that by fighting China right now, Uyghurs will earn anything else but extermination and destruction? It is national suicide and the worst time for such a movement.

If we want freedom for Uyghurs, then why go by the timing and dictates of US, Israelis, and Indians? Look what the West is doing in their propaganda against Hong Kong, a rightful part of China. Even Taiwan which is also Chinese territory.

This is not our battle, don't be a pawn in the game of the West. If we have problems with China, we talk to them directly as friends and allies without need to sully the atmosphere by mudslinging.

With the US and its slaves breathing down the necks of Turkey, Iran, and Pakistan, you really want us to commit political suicide by cutting our ties with China, especially over inflated and fabricated claims coming from CIA sources themselves?

Wake up and look around you. How did it work for Syria, Yemen, Libya, and Iraq?



They can join CIA funded Peshmerga or Daesh in Xinjiang. You will be provided handsome arms and money to fight their war, but chance of victory is slim. US always abandons their allies.

Very good point. @Petrichor, if you want to do something, please go to Gaza, go to Iraq, go to Syria. US and US allies are bombing them, and killing Muslim everyday. Don't be like a coward keyboard warrior, it's easy to say than done.