China Civil Aviation, AVIC (MA600) & COMAC (ARJ21/C919/C929)

[qwerrty]

COMAC says JVs will develop, produce C919 systems
By Linda Blachly | July 13, 2010

COMAC yesterday announced that many of the C919's most critical systems will be developed and produced via joint ventures between Western and Chinese companies, including a GE Aviation Systems/AVIC JV that will be responsible for the aircraft's avionics core processing system, display system and onboard maintenance system.

In addition, Rockwell Collins and China Electronics Technology Avionics jointly will provide communication and navigation solutions for the aircraft, and Eaton Corp. and Shanghai Aircraft Manufacturing Co. jointly will develop and produce its fuel and hydraulic conveyance systems. The C919 is scheduled to enter service in 2016 (ATW Online, May 21).

All of the proposed JVs still must be finalized and gain required regulatory approvals. The C919 modular avionics system provided by the planned GE/AVIC joint venture "will be the central information system and backbone of the airplane's networks and electronics and will host the airplane's avionics, maintenance and utility functions," GE said. "The system replaces dozens of traditional, standalone computers fitted to aircraft flying today, benefiting in weight savings, improved reliability and reduced operating cost."

Regarding the communication and navigation systems, CETA President Jim Zhuanglong said, "Rockwell Collins is the industry leader in development of civil communication and aviation electronic solutions, while CETA is a domestic supplier specializing in civil avionics solutions. I believe, by working together, Rockwell Collins and CETA will successfully fulfill the mission" of equipping the C919 with top-flight systems.

The planned Eaton/SAMC JV will be based in Shanghai. Eaton estimated total program value for C919 conveyance systems, including aftermarket opportunities, at $1.8 billion.

*ttp://atwonline.com/aircraft-engines-components/news/comac-says-jvs-will-develop-produce-c919-systems-0712

 

[qwerrty]

PARTNERS IN THE C919

CFM International Providing the Leap-X1C engine that will power the aircraft. Has signed agreement with AVIC's Commercial Aircraft Engine to study the feasibility of an assembly line and engine test facility in China.

GE Aviation Supplying the core processing system, cockpit display systems, on-board maintenance systems and flight recorders with partner AVIC Systems.

Rockwell Collins Supplying the communication, navigation and surveillance systems on the C919, as well as the in-flight entertainment system and cabin core system. It is doing the work with Chinese partners China Electronics Technology Avionics (part of state-owned China Electronics Technology group), AVIC's China Leihua Electronic Technology Research Institute and AVIC's Shanghai Aero Measurement-Controlling Research Institute.

Honeywell Providing fly-by-wire flight control system, inertial reference and air data systems, auxiliary power unit, wheels and brakes. It is partnering China's Flight Automatic Control Research Institute, Hunan Boyun New Materials and Changsha Xinhang Wheel and Brake.

Parker Aerospace Supplying the aircraft's hydraulics system, flight control actuation and fuel tank systems in partnership with AVIC Systems.

Liebherr-Aerospace Providing the landing gear and air management systems through partnerships with AVIC's landing gear manufacturing subsidiary in Changsha and Nanjing Engineering Institute of Aircraft Systems.

Eaton Supplying the fuel and hydraulic conveyance systems, cockpit panel assemblies and dimming control system. In partnerships with Comac subsidiary Shanghai Aircraft Manufacturing Company and Shanghai Aviation Electric.

*ttp://www.flightglobal.com/articles/2010/11/05/349329/china-special-c919-update.html

 

[qwerrty]

China’s Comac Targets New Jet Controls With GE Venture Contract

GE and AVIC targeted the 150-seat C919 when they unveiled their 50-50 avionics venture in November. They plan to compete with suppliers such as Honeywell International Inc., United Technologies Corp. and Rockwell Collins Inc. by using so-called open-architecture software that isn’t tied to one manufacturer.

“One of the benefits of this system is that you can replace dozens of traditional stand-alone computers with less weight, better reliability, lower complexity,” said Lorraine Bolsinger, who runs GE Aviation Systems, in a telephone interview ahead of next week’s Farnborough Air Show near London.

GE’s entry into the avionics market may take business from suppliers such as Honeywell, Rockwell Collins and Thales SA, said Michel Merluzeau, an aviation analyst at G2 Solutions in Kirkland, Washington.

“This is a huge deal, perhaps one of those events that has the potential to redefine the avionics market once every 15 to 20 years,” Merluzeau said in an e-mail.

GE Aviation supplies the core computing system on Boeing’s 787 jumbo jet. In looking for a partner to begin selling open- source systems, GE Aviation saw AVIC as a “very natural” choice, Bolsinger said......

*ttp://www.businessweek.com/news/2010-07-12/china-s-comac-targets-new-jet-controls-with-ge-venture-contract.html

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[yangtomous]

any problems . we all know it .the thing we just want is get it first .just give us some times we will replace all by made in China.you know that is we good at .if you like give us a F22 ,no longer we will create Chinese F22 .and must more advanced.
the key of C919 is we clear know what we want .

 

[qwerrty]

no problem. all subsystems are 50/50 partnership designed and made in china, except for the engines..

 

[meispig2]

that's looks nice

---------- Post added at 02:31 PM ---------- Previous post was at 02:31 PM ----------

yep. engines are the problem

 

[Brotherhood]

China's C919 to challenge Western dominance of aircraft market - People's Daily OnlineNovember 24, 2010

A model of the China-made C919 passenger airliner is seen at the 8th China International Aviation and Aerospace Exhibition in Zhuhai, South China's Guangdong province, Nov 15, 2010. The model, which comprises the cockpit and the front part of the passenger cabin, is the same size as an actual C919 plane -- 17 meters long, 5.6 meters high and 3.96 meters wide. (Xinhua Photo)

At the opening day of Zhuhai Airshow 2010, Commercial Aircraft Corporation of China singed 100 initial orders for its 160-seat C919 aircraft with four major Chinese carriers — Air China, China Eastern, China Southern, Hainan Airlines — as well as the airplane leasing company General Electric Capital Aviation Services of the United States and a Chinese leasing firm.

C919, the single-aisle commercial aircraft, will go head to head with industry leaders Boeing and Airbus, said Chen Jin, marketing head of the company.

The "ABC" pattern will be formed

Because the aviation industry has been dominated for many years by giants Airbus and Boeing, the situation on the market is known as the "AB" pattern. But with the development of C919, the global "ABC" competition will come into being.

Detailed design of the C919 is scheduled to be completed in 2012; the maiden flight will be made in 2014; and it will go onto the market after receiving airworthiness certification in 2014.

Compared with other similar aircraft, C919 has many advantages. Technically, it operates on a new-generation of engine and body material. It is environmentally sound because the fuel consumption of the C919 is less than 12 percent to 15 percent of that of similar planes, and the carbon emissions will be reduced by 50 percent, Chen said.

These advantages make C919 a star in Zhuhai Airshow.

"The C919 is a good thing and there is room for competition," said James Simon, vice-president of Boeing China commercial-airplane sales. "It makes all of us do our job better and build more efficient aircraft."

China's aviation market, represented by large aircraft, will transfer from meeting the basic demands of national defense to become the country's economic pillar industry.

Despite the fact that China's large aircraft project has achieved remarkable fruits, engine development still lags behind. So C919 will use the LEAP-X engine provided by the CFM International, a joint venture between GE Aviation, a division of General Electric of the United States and Snecma, a division of Safran of France, according to Wu Guanghui, chief designer of C919 and deputy general manager of Commercial Aircraft Corporation of China.

AVIC Commercial Aircraft Engine Co., Ltd., which is shouldering the mission of developing engines for large domestic aircrafts, announced during the Zhuhai Airshow that the overall blueprint for engines of domestic aircrafts is expected to be released in 2011.

By Liang Jun, People's Daily Online

 

[topgun787]

i listened somewhere pia will buy some new planes in near future.
i think if we take tot and mass produce it we can get some profit too.
atleast pia should buy 10 of them.

 

[Martian2]

A frontal view of China's COMAC C919 large-body jet.

Welcome aboard for a guided tour of the C919!

C919 cockpit includes HUD displays for the captain and co-pilot.

A closer look at the C919 cockpit instruments and controls.

The seats are spacious and comfortable.

Visual displays are available for entertainment or business.

China throws down the gauntlet to Boeing, Airbus

"China throws down the gauntlet to Boeing, Airbus
David Pierson
November 17, 2010

BEIJING: China aims to reshape the global aviation industry with a home-grown airliner, a direct challenge to the supremacy of Boeing and Airbus, the world's only makers of large commercial aircraft.

The Chinese government has staked billions of dollars and national pride on the effort, with help from big US companies.

Commercial Aircraft Corporation of China has orders for 100 single-aisle C919 passenger jets from Chinese airlines and international customers. The orders were signed yesterday at the Zhuhai air show in southern China, the state-owned Comac said in a news release.

Customers included Air China, China Southern Airlines and China Eastern, and the aircraft leasing company GE Capital Aviation Services of the US. No details were given on how many planes each customer ordered or the prices that would be paid.

The partnership with US companies will be on display this week at the air show, where a full-scale mock-up of the 156-seat C919 will be revealed. It is scheduled for production by 2016. The fuselage will carry the Comac name but inside the most crucial systems will bear the trademarks of some of the biggest names in Western aviation.

Honeywell International will supply power units, computing systems, wheels and brakes. Rockwell Collins will handle navigation systems. GE Aviation is building the avionics. Eaton Corp is involved with fuel and hydraulics. Parker Aerospace of Irvine is responsible for flight controls.

Powering the aircraft will be two fuel-efficient engines built by CFM International, a company co-owned by GE and the French conglomerate Safran.

While global supply chains are common in the aviation industry, for this project China has required foreign suppliers to set up joint ventures with Chinese companies.

By one estimate, air passenger traffic in China is projected to expand by nearly 8 per cent a year for the next 20 years. The country plans to build 70 airports by 2020.

The plane follows the 70- to 110-seat ARJ21 as the second modern commercial airliner to be developed in China, a source of huge pride for the country's economic planners, who are determined to become global players in industries such as commercial aircraft.

The ARJ21, also being built by Comac, has a backlog of about 240 firm orders and options, mostly from domestic carriers but also from GE Capital Aviation Services and Lao Airlines.

Los Angeles Times, Associated Press"

 

[Martian2]

See the interview for yourself, it starts 16 seconds into the following video:

Boeing China sales vice president - James Simon: "The C919, from my perspective, it will be a good [and] very capable aircraft. The Chinese have the capability to put a man in space and anyone who can put a man in space can build an airplane."

YouTube - China Wins 100 C919 Orders, Breaking Airbus-Boeing Grip

Chinese passenger jet C919 takes on Boeing and Airbus | CNNGo.com

"Chinese passenger jet C919 takes on Boeing and Airbus
China unveils its first domestically produced commercial jet. Here's what the C919 looks like from the inside
By Tiffany Lam 17 November, 2010

Visitors inspect the C919 prototype at an aviation exhibition during the Zhuhai Airshow.

China is taking on the world’s only large commercial aircraft producers Boeing and Airbus with its first homegrown passenger jet, the C919.

The C919, built by state-owned enterprise Commercial Aircraft Corporation of China (Comac), is a single-aisle commercial liner designed to compete with the Airbus A320 and the Boeing 737. It was officially unveiled at the Zhuhai air show in south China on November 16.

Comac claims that they have already received orders for 100 jets from four Chinese domestic airlines Air China, China Southern, China Eastern and Hainan Airlines, as well as the U.S.-owned GE Capital Aviation Service.

No details on the planes' cost or how many planes each company ordered have been made available, although state media reports that the estimated market price for the C919 is 20 percent cheaper than its foreign competitors.

The company expects to sell more than 2,000 C919s globally over the next 20 years.

The 156-seater is 17 meters long, 5.6 meters tall and 3.96 meters wide. The fuselage will bear the Comac name but crucial systems on the inside are produced by Western aviation companies, according to The Age.

The first "9" in the craft's model number stands for “forever,” based on two words’ similar pronunciations in Chinese. The “19” refers to the maximum number of 190 seats on the aircraft.

Test flights for the C919 are set for 2014 and the planes will be delivered in 2016.

Comac added that the C919 hopes to cash in on China’s domestic demand for planes. Some 4,439 commercial jets are expected to be needed in China by the year 2029, constituting 14 percent of the world's demand.

An interior view of the C919 prototype."

 

[somebozo]

CFM will supply a version of the LEAP-X engine, the LEAP-X1C, to power the aircraft.

The CFM International LEAP-X is a high-bypass turbofan engine currently under development by CFM International. CFM International is a 50-50 joint venture company between GE Aviation of the United States and Snecma of France.

 

[jha]

Good for developing markets like India..However SUKHOI will also be a contender in the class.

 

[Dash]

Congratulations Guys!!!

 

[razgriz19]

its gonna be using a new turbofan engine, so no wonder it will be more fuel efficient....

 

[Lankan Ranger]

C919 jumbo jet manufactured in Nanchang