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Via @上海飞机制造有限公司 from Weixin
 
Comac last year was second in the world when it comes to deliveries of regional jets.
In 2020 Embraer delivered - 44 regional jets, Comac - 24, Bombardier/Mitsubishi - 17, Sukhoi - 14, de Haviland - 11 and ATR - 10.
Data from newspaper "Lotnictwo" 2021-04
 

#飞机返回接断臂男孩目前状况良好#
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与时间赛跑!#飞机返回接断臂男孩后续来了#!】4月30日深夜,新疆和田一7岁男孩需紧急进行接臂手术,当天最后一班飞往乌鲁木齐的航班二次开门全力救助,使得男孩顺利登机,送往医院治疗,很多网友都在关心小男孩的后续情况。5月2日,记者与男孩家属及医生取得联系,目前,男孩的接臂手术已完成,身体状况良好,已可以进食。(来源:中央广电总台中国之声微信公号)​

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At 08:09 on May 3 from Weibo

The boy with the severed arm is currently in good condition

[A race against time! The plane returned to pick up the severed arm boy follow-up! ]

In the middle of the night of April 30, a 7-year-old boy in Hotan, Xinjiang, needed an emergency arm surgery. The last flight to Urumqi of the day opened the door for the second time. The boy was able to board the plane and sent to the hospital for treatment.

The follow-up of the little boy. On May 2, the reporter got in touch with the boy’s family and doctor. At present, the boy’s arm attachment surgery has been completed and he is in good physical condition and can now eat. (Source: The Voice of China WeChat Official Account of the Central Radio and Television Station)

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Airbus Is Confident COMAC’s C919 Can Compete Against The A320neo
by Luke Bodell
May 7, 2021
3 minute read

Airbus chief executive Guillaume Faury claims that COMAC’s C919 will be strong competition for the Airbus A320neo by the end of the decade. Faury made the comments during the Atlantic Council EU-US Future Forum on May 6th, believing that the C919 will progressively transform the single-aisle market into a “triopoly” of Airbus, Boeing and COMAC aircraft.

Stiff competition by the end of the decade
Commercial aircraft manufacturing has long been dominated by the duopoly of Airbus and Boeing. However, Airbus chief executive Guillaume Faury believes this will change as early as the end of this decade, with Chinese planemaker COMAC making swift progress in recent years.

During an online event hosted by the Atlantic Council, Faury said, “It will start slowly, reaching at the beginning probably only the Chinese airlines, but we believe it will progressively become a decent player. We will go from a duopoly to a triopoly on the single-aisle probably by the end of the decade.”

COMAC, C919, Airbus Competition
The C919 is expected to enter service in China by the end of 2021. Photo: Getty Images
COMAC expects to introduce its new narrowbody, the C919, into active service later this year. The plane has yet to receive certification, while COVID-19 complications have delayed important natural icing tests until the autumn. Despite this, COMAC believes it can still make deliveries of the plane before the end of 2021. The C919 has been touted as a viable competitor to the Airbus A320neo and Boeing 737 MAX.

Will the C919 receive foreign investment?
The C919 has received over 800 provisional orders thus far, almost exclusively from airlines and leasing companies within China. While China’s domestic aviation market is extensive, this alone won’t be enough for the C919 to be considered a success. As with COMAC’s ARJ21, operators outside of China are reluctant to order the C919 thus far.

Additionally, many Chinese airlines are already operating the Airbus A320neo in the domestic market, including Air China and China Southern. Faury believes that the C919 will start strongly in China before picking up globally.

Faury said,“We believe they will start with China, because the Chinese airlines are state-owned companies and it’s easier to do it. It takes a lot of time to demonstrate the maturity of a product, to make it reliable, trusted, and economically viable. But we believe it’s not unlikely [that] on the single-aisle, by the end of the decade, COMAC will have taken a certain share of the market.”

Interestingly, Ryanair has expressed strong interest in the plane since early on in its development. In 2011, the airline signed a memorandum of understanding with COMAC at the Paris Air Show. Ryanair chief executive Michael O’Leary reaffirmed the carrier’s commitment to the C919 program last year, claiming competition for Airbus and Boeing would be good for the industry.

Airbus may lose a lucrative market
China has been a vital market for Airbus, with around 20% of its deliveries last year to Chinese customers. Faury claims that the Chinese market will “progressively come with domestic products,” making a dent in Airbus’ interests in the region.

Boeing is also experiencing complications in the region, with China yet to recertify the 737 MAX. This has left Chinese MAX operators, such as Air China and China Eastern, looking to the C919 as a viable alternative.

Do you believe COMAC’s C919 will enter into service by the end of this year? Let us know what you think in the comments.

Journalist - With 10 years of experience as a travel writer and aviation analyst, Luke has worked with industry-leaders including Skyscanner, KLM and HotelsCombined throughout his career. As a passionate traveler based across the Middle East and East Asia, Luke offers strong insights into the travel and aviation industry.

via: https://simpleflying.com/airbus-comac-a320neo-competition/
 
Airbus Is Confident COMAC’s C919 Can Compete Against The A320neo
by Luke Bodell
May 7, 2021
3 minute read

Airbus chief executive Guillaume Faury claims that COMAC’s C919 will be strong competition for the Airbus A320neo by the end of the decade. Faury made the comments during the Atlantic Council EU-US Future Forum on May 6th, believing that the C919 will progressively transform the single-aisle market into a “triopoly” of Airbus, Boeing and COMAC aircraft.

Stiff competition by the end of the decade
Commercial aircraft manufacturing has long been dominated by the duopoly of Airbus and Boeing. However, Airbus chief executive Guillaume Faury believes this will change as early as the end of this decade, with Chinese planemaker COMAC making swift progress in recent years.

During an online event hosted by the Atlantic Council, Faury said, “It will start slowly, reaching at the beginning probably only the Chinese airlines, but we believe it will progressively become a decent player. We will go from a duopoly to a triopoly on the single-aisle probably by the end of the decade.”

COMAC, C919, Airbus Competition
The C919 is expected to enter service in China by the end of 2021. Photo: Getty Images
COMAC expects to introduce its new narrowbody, the C919, into active service later this year. The plane has yet to receive certification, while COVID-19 complications have delayed important natural icing tests until the autumn. Despite this, COMAC believes it can still make deliveries of the plane before the end of 2021. The C919 has been touted as a viable competitor to the Airbus A320neo and Boeing 737 MAX.

Will the C919 receive foreign investment?
The C919 has received over 800 provisional orders thus far, almost exclusively from airlines and leasing companies within China. While China’s domestic aviation market is extensive, this alone won’t be enough for the C919 to be considered a success. As with COMAC’s ARJ21, operators outside of China are reluctant to order the C919 thus far.

Additionally, many Chinese airlines are already operating the Airbus A320neo in the domestic market, including Air China and China Southern. Faury believes that the C919 will start strongly in China before picking up globally.

Faury said,“We believe they will start with China, because the Chinese airlines are state-owned companies and it’s easier to do it. It takes a lot of time to demonstrate the maturity of a product, to make it reliable, trusted, and economically viable. But we believe it’s not unlikely [that] on the single-aisle, by the end of the decade, COMAC will have taken a certain share of the market.”

Interestingly, Ryanair has expressed strong interest in the plane since early on in its development. In 2011, the airline signed a memorandum of understanding with COMAC at the Paris Air Show. Ryanair chief executive Michael O’Leary reaffirmed the carrier’s commitment to the C919 program last year, claiming competition for Airbus and Boeing would be good for the industry.

Airbus may lose a lucrative market
China has been a vital market for Airbus, with around 20% of its deliveries last year to Chinese customers. Faury claims that the Chinese market will “progressively come with domestic products,” making a dent in Airbus’ interests in the region.

Boeing is also experiencing complications in the region, with China yet to recertify the 737 MAX. This has left Chinese MAX operators, such as Air China and China Eastern, looking to the C919 as a viable alternative.

Do you believe COMAC’s C919 will enter into service by the end of this year? Let us know what you think in the comments.

Journalist - With 10 years of experience as a travel writer and aviation analyst, Luke has worked with industry-leaders including Skyscanner, KLM and HotelsCombined throughout his career. As a passionate traveler based across the Middle East and East Asia, Luke offers strong insights into the travel and aviation industry.

via: https://simpleflying.com/airbus-comac-a320neo-competition/

Not quite sure about other countries but in China market, generally speaking, Boeing is already out not only on narrow body passenger jets but also on wide body jets in exchange of China's loss on Huawei phone and chip businesses. That means in foreseeable future there will be no new orders going to Boeing placed by any Chinese airlines.

The narrow body market will be shared by A32x from Airbus and C919 from COMAC.

The wide body market's new orders will go to Airbus and then COMAC when CR929 is ready.

Obviously they will keep operating all existing Boeing jets. As all major Chinese airlines are now allowed to run planes for carrying passengers with an age over 10 years, those Boeing planes will finish their leases in at most 10 years and be resold to market by the financers.

By mostly running jets from Airbus and COMAC they can also simplify their support networks including support facilities at airports, because reportedly all COMAC jets are designed to adopt an operation model similar to that of Airbus.
 
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Airbus Is Confident COMAC’s C919 Can Compete Against The A320neo
by Luke Bodell
May 7, 2021
3 minute read

Airbus chief executive Guillaume Faury claims that COMAC’s C919 will be strong competition for the Airbus A320neo by the end of the decade. Faury made the comments during the Atlantic Council EU-US Future Forum on May 6th, believing that the C919 will progressively transform the single-aisle market into a “triopoly” of Airbus, Boeing and COMAC aircraft.

Stiff competition by the end of the decade
Commercial aircraft manufacturing has long been dominated by the duopoly of Airbus and Boeing. However, Airbus chief executive Guillaume Faury believes this will change as early as the end of this decade, with Chinese planemaker COMAC making swift progress in recent years.

During an online event hosted by the Atlantic Council, Faury said, “It will start slowly, reaching at the beginning probably only the Chinese airlines, but we believe it will progressively become a decent player. We will go from a duopoly to a triopoly on the single-aisle probably by the end of the decade.”

COMAC, C919, Airbus Competition
The C919 is expected to enter service in China by the end of 2021. Photo: Getty Images
COMAC expects to introduce its new narrowbody, the C919, into active service later this year. The plane has yet to receive certification, while COVID-19 complications have delayed important natural icing tests until the autumn. Despite this, COMAC believes it can still make deliveries of the plane before the end of 2021. The C919 has been touted as a viable competitor to the Airbus A320neo and Boeing 737 MAX.

Will the C919 receive foreign investment?
The C919 has received over 800 provisional orders thus far, almost exclusively from airlines and leasing companies within China. While China’s domestic aviation market is extensive, this alone won’t be enough for the C919 to be considered a success. As with COMAC’s ARJ21, operators outside of China are reluctant to order the C919 thus far.

Additionally, many Chinese airlines are already operating the Airbus A320neo in the domestic market, including Air China and China Southern. Faury believes that the C919 will start strongly in China before picking up globally.

Faury said,“We believe they will start with China, because the Chinese airlines are state-owned companies and it’s easier to do it. It takes a lot of time to demonstrate the maturity of a product, to make it reliable, trusted, and economically viable. But we believe it’s not unlikely [that] on the single-aisle, by the end of the decade, COMAC will have taken a certain share of the market.”

Interestingly, Ryanair has expressed strong interest in the plane since early on in its development. In 2011, the airline signed a memorandum of understanding with COMAC at the Paris Air Show. Ryanair chief executive Michael O’Leary reaffirmed the carrier’s commitment to the C919 program last year, claiming competition for Airbus and Boeing would be good for the industry.

Airbus may lose a lucrative market
China has been a vital market for Airbus, with around 20% of its deliveries last year to Chinese customers. Faury claims that the Chinese market will “progressively come with domestic products,” making a dent in Airbus’ interests in the region.

Boeing is also experiencing complications in the region, with China yet to recertify the 737 MAX. This has left Chinese MAX operators, such as Air China and China Eastern, looking to the C919 as a viable alternative.

Do you believe COMAC’s C919 will enter into service by the end of this year? Let us know what you think in the comments.

Journalist - With 10 years of experience as a travel writer and aviation analyst, Luke has worked with industry-leaders including Skyscanner, KLM and HotelsCombined throughout his career. As a passionate traveler based across the Middle East and East Asia, Luke offers strong insights into the travel and aviation industry.

via: https://simpleflying.com/airbus-comac-a320neo-competition/
The US changed their tone so fast? Just 2-3 years, they claim C919 is junk and no hope of compete with Boeing and Airbus? And C919 dont need 10 years, I dare to bet. Now it can compete directly with Neo and Max on same level.
Not quite sure about other countries but in China market, generally speaking, Boeing is already out not only on narrow body passenger jets but also on wide body jets in exchange of China's loss on Huawei phone and chip businesses. That means in foreseeable future there will be no new orders going to Boeing placed by any Chinese airlines.

The narrow body market will be shared by A32x from Airbus and C919 from COMAC.

The wide body market's new orders will go to Airbus and then COMAC when CR929 is ready.

Obviously they will keep operating all existing Boeing jets. As all major Chinese airlines are now allowed to run planes for carrying passengers with an age over 10 years, this Boeing planes will finish their leases in at most 10 years and be resold to market by the financers.

By mostly running jets from Airbus and COMAC they can also simplify their support networks including support facilities at airports, because reportedly all COMAC jets are designed to adopt an operation model similar to that of Airbus.
Narrow body market is gone case for Max but I am surely, China want some competition for wide body airliner. C929 prototype is no where to be seen and not to mention put into service and challenge airbus and boeing wide body. It we did not put Boeing into our basket. Airbus can command any amount they want for China wide body market.

There is still business for Boeing in China but the most lucrative narrow body airliner margin will be heavily squeeze for Boeing. Boeing need to spend money on Congress and lobby hard to tone down anti-China hawk to create more purchase deal from China.
 
Not quite sure about other countries but in China market, generally speaking, Boeing is already out not only on narrow body passenger jets but also on wide body jets in exchange of China's loss on Huawei phone and chip businesses. That means in foreseeable future there will be no new orders going to Boeing placed by any Chinese airlines.

The narrow body market will be shared by A32x from Airbus and C919 from COMAC.

The wide body market's new orders will go to Airbus and then COMAC when CR929 is ready.

Obviously they will keep operating all existing Boeing jets. As all major Chinese airlines are now allowed to run planes for carrying passengers with an age over 10 years, this Boeing planes will finish their leases in at most 10 years and be resold to market by the financers.

By mostly running jets from Airbus and COMAC they can also simplify their support networks including support facilities at airports, because reportedly all COMAC jets are designed to adopt an operation model similar to that of Airbus.

I'm sure you are aware (others may be not so much) that Airbus has a Chinese assembly plant in Tianjin, which delivered its 500th aircraft recently. This JV was set up in 2008. From the 400th airplane to the 500th, it took two years. Yes - one hundred aircraft in two years. Chew on that one for a while.

The US changed their tone so fast? Just 2-3 years, they claim C919 is junk and no hope of compete with Boeing and Airbus?

Airbus is a European company, Boeing is an American one.
 
The US changed their tone so fast? Just 2-3 years, they claim C919 is junk and no hope of compete with Boeing and Airbus? And C919 dont need 10 years, I dare to bet. Now it can compete directly with Neo and Max on same level.

Narrow body market is gone case for Max but I am surely, China want some competition for wide body airliner. C929 prototype is no where to be seen and not to mention put into service and challenge airbus and boeing wide body. It we did not put Boeing into our basket. Airbus can command any amount they want for China wide body market.

There is still business for Boeing in China but the most lucrative narrow body airliner margin will be heavily squeeze for Boeing. Boeing need to spend money on Congress and lobby hard to tone down anti-China hawk to create more purchase deal from China.
China still need Boeing for competition with Airbus, but the business model may change.
Previously China bought a lot of Boeing and lease them in other market, such as Indonesia.

Now China may lease Boeing airplanes from other airlines since there are plenty of them grounded right now. It still creates enough pressure on Airbus.
 
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