China and India : Brothers at Odds Who Shared the Same Destiny?

[Lure]

I have watched a remarkable TED talk and I wanted to share it with you. The speaker, Hans Rpsling, is a Swedish MD. He visits India as a guest student during his university education and he experiences a great revelation about the East. In Sweden he is one of the top students in his class, yet in India he sees that most Indian students are better then him. Then he starts to question why Asia is so backward compared to Europe despite they are very hard working and good at what they do.

He comes with very good answers, about why both China and India stayed backwards at the civlization race and why they have started to catch up after 1950's? Could India and China have both stayed back because of the same reasons?

As I see it, the problems between China and India can easily be solved and they seem very superficial. I think both nations are in a great position to understand eachother and make emptahy because they have experienced very similar experiences, tragedies, struggles throughout the last century. If one can understand another, then all the problems may be solved, unless they are existential. And I don't see any existential problems between India and China. I mean in the past both civilizations were so close to eachother that they actually share the same philosophical and theological substructure.

A little spoiler; to ones who watch the videos should notice that despite Kerala being much more poorer than Washington DC, life expectancy and general health in Kerala is much higher.

You can check the TED talks below :

 

[Azizam]

I think this "rivalry" is one sided. In Indian media I constantly see China being presented as an enemy that pose an imaginary threat to India whereas in Chinese CCTV, India is barely mentioned but when it is mentioned, it is for a positive reason. For instance, I was watching CCTV few days ago and it aired a programme about Indian doctors in China at the time of World War 2. Even there's no personal enmity between average Indians and Chinese that we meet in day-to-day life and another important thing is that people to people contact is very little in between India and China.

Regardless of that India is in no position to challenge China economically or militarily. It has a lot of catching up to do. That's the bitter truth.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

I think this "rivalry" is one sided. In Indian media I constantly see China being presented as an enemy that pose an imaginary threat to India whereas in Chinese CCTV, India is barely mentioned but when it is mentioned, it is for a positive reason. For instance, I was watching CCTV few days ago and it aired a programme about Indian doctors in China at the time of World War 2. Even there's no personal enmity between average Indians and Chinese that we meet in day-to-day life and another important thing is that people to people contact is very little in between India and China.

Regardless of that India is in no position to challenge China economically or militarily. It has a lot of catching up to do. That's the bitter truth.

Yep we never even talk about India really.

The hysteria is completely one-sided.

Once I believed there might be some similarities between China and India, since we are both 1+ billion populations who have suffered heavily at the hands of the Western powers in the past.

The difference is that despite this past, India seems to be completely enamoured with anything Western/white. According to global polls India is the most pro-American population in Asia, apart from the Philippines.

Also, think about this:

Western media stories about India: Poverty/Caste/Rape

Chinese media stories about India: Economy/Culture/BRICS

Yet they still behave completely slavishly towards the West as if they are holy. I don't believe there is any universe in which India would side with a fellow Asian country instead of the West, they would choose the latter every time.

It seems to be a leftover of history, hence their extremely negative behavior towards China/Pakistan and their fawning behavior towards anything Western. You can see their behavior towards Northeast Indians who are also not ethnically white.

 

[HongWu002]

India is much closer to their subsaharan Africa brothers in every possible human measurement index. Their relationship to China is like Brahman versus Dalit.

 

[Indika]

The difference is that despite this past, India seems to be completely enamoured with anything Western/white. According to global polls India is the most pro-American population in Asia, apart from the Philippines.

Really how so.
Chinese fakeaway: How the world's most famous buildings - and even cities - are being cloned | Daily Mail Online
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2184727/Chinese-TV-iPartment-ripping-Friends.html

Yet they still behave completely slavishly towards the West as if they are holy. I don't believe there is any universe in which India would side with a fellow Asian country instead of the West, they would choose the latter every time.

Stop hoarding dollars and then start preaching. Withdraw from tibet then india and china can disengage from the enmity. No body is our master.

It seems to be a leftover of history, hence their extremely negative behavior towards China/Pakistan and their fawning behavior towards anything Western. You can see their behavior towards Northeast Indians who are also not ethnically white.

imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.

PS: Pathetic third rate cheap lousy post .

 

[Luca1]

India is much closer to their subsaharan Africa brothers in every possible human measurement index. Their relationship to China is like Brahman versus Dalit.

Haha. Indian Brahmins regard Chinese as Dalits. That is why they cannot stomach your success as they regard you guys as inferior.

I think this "rivalry" is one sided. In Indian media I constantly see China being presented as an enemy that pose an imaginary threat to India whereas in Chinese CCTV, India is barely mentioned but when it is mentioned, it is for a positive reason. For instance, I was watching CCTV few days ago and it aired a programme about Indian doctors in China at the time of World War 2. Even there's no personal enmity between average Indians and Chinese that we meet in day-to-day life and another important thing is that people to people contact is very little in between India and China.

Regardless of that India is in no position to challenge China economically or militarily. It has a lot of catching up to do. That's the bitter truth.

But India in 2030 will be a superpower with a lot of western servants. Would Chinese even qualify to be servants in India?

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

Really how so.
Chinese fakeaway: How the world's most famous buildings - and even cities - are being cloned | Daily Mail Online
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2184727/Chinese-TV-iPartment-ripping-Friends.html


Stop hoarding dollars and then start preaching. Withdraw from tibet then india and china can disengage from the enmity. No body is our master.



imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.

PS: Pathetic third rate cheap lousy post .

Let's be honest, if China was a white-majority country, there would not be so much scaremongering from the Indian media about us.

 

[Luca1]

Let's be honest, if China was a white-majority country, there would not be so much scaremongering from the Indian media about us.

This is because Chinese are regarded as equivalent to NE Indian tribal schedule caste. In another word, untouchables.

So to the Brahmins, they are more concern about the story of China being an inspiration to the oppressed people of India than the actual threat from China itself.

 

[me_itsme]

Let's be honest, if China was a white-majority country, there would not be so much scaremongering from the Indian media about us.

If China was not an authoritative country and did not have any disputes with us, yes Indian media wont be going bonkers.
Saying Chinese media never says anything negative about India is absurd. I can post many anti India articles from Chinese media. You guys help our enemies and wonder why we are suspicious towards China? And you wonder why India shows negativeness towards Pakistan? Really? After being on this forum so long you should have know if India was weaker than Pakistan, there would not be an India. Indians are very positive about west especially USA because of numerous reasons some being a lot of people to people interaction, same political ideologies for the most part. Many of USA's business in India . Indians in metropolitan cities from my personal experiences have a lot in common with an American from a metropolitan city than a Chinese from a metropolitan city. Since Chinese on this site are mostly filled with jingoism its not surprising that they term this as slave mentality, nothing better can be expected. Indians love Japanese and Iranians too, what does that say? The only western country India has beef with is UK cause of their holier than thou attitude and nothing else. But as of now relations are improving between India and China and our media aint going bonkers like before, people to people interaction is also growing between Indians and Chinese. Probably in near future we might be real powerful partners.

Edit: Pakistanis will act all friendly with China now cause they have no other option, keep in mind it is the Pakistanis letting USA to have military bases in Pakistan, violate their air space etc, while India has refused to give them any base on our soil etc. If China was nt hostile towards us India will lean more towards China.

 

[Luca1]

If China was not an authoritative country and did not have any disputes with us, yes Indian media wont be going bonkers.
Saying Chinese media never says anything negative about India is absurd. I can post many anti India articles from Chinese media. You guys help our enemies and wonder why we are suspicious towards China? And you wonder why India shows negativeness towards Pakistan? Really? After being on this forum so long you should have know if India was weaker than Pakistan, there would not be an India. Indians are very positive about west especially USA because of numerous reasons some being a lot of people to people interaction, same political ideologies for the most part. Many of USA's business in India . Indians in metropolitan cities from my personal experiences have a lot in common with an American from a metropolitan city than a Chinese from a metropolitan city. Since Chinese on this site are mostly filled with jingoism its not surprising that they term this as slave mentality, nothing better can be expected. Indians love Japanese and Iranians too, what does that say? The only western country India has beef with is UK cause of their holier than thou attitude and nothing else. But as of now relations are improving between India and China and our media aint going bonkers like before, people to people interaction is also growing between Indians and Chinese. Probably in near future we might be real powerful partners.

Edit: Pakistanis will act all friendly with China now cause they have no other option, keep in mind it is the Pakistanis letting USA to have military bases in Pakistan, violate their air space etc, while India has refused to give them any base on our soil etc. If China was nt hostile towards us India will lean more towards China.

And you conveniently ignore that orientals are regarded as inferior in Indian caste system. The China India relationship is beyond Border conflicts or political situations. There is a racism angle from the Hindu side as well.

 

[ito]

Yep we never even talk about India really.

The hysteria is completely one-sided.

Once I believed there might be some similarities between China and India, since we are both 1+ billion populations who have suffered heavily at the hands of the Western powers in the past.

The difference is that despite this past, India seems to be completely enamoured with anything Western/white. According to global polls India is the most pro-American population in Asia, apart from the Philippines.

Also, think about this:

Western media stories about India: Poverty/Caste/Rape

Chinese media stories about India: Economy/Culture/BRICS

Yet they still behave completely slavishly towards the West as if they are holy. I don't believe there is any universe in which India would side with a fellow Asian country instead of the West, they would choose the latter every time.

It seems to be a leftover of history, hence their extremely negative behavior towards China/Pakistan and their fawning behavior towards anything Western. You can see their behavior towards Northeast Indians who are also not ethnically white.

Actually it is the other way: Chinese love anything white and almost forgot their culture and traditions. India on the other hand still follow its culture.

 

[hexagonsnow]

Haha. Indian Brahmins regard Chinese as Dalits. That is why they cannot stomach your success as they regard you guys as inferior.



But India in 2030 will be a superpower with a lot of western servants. Would Chinese even qualify to be servants in India?

Haha. Indian Brahmins regard Chinese as Dalits. That is why they cannot stomach your success as they regard you guys as inferior.



But India in 2030 will be a superpower with a lot of western servants. Would Chinese even qualify to be servants in India?

You are correct ,India will soon be a great superpower in the world.China is just a piece of shit and one india soldier better than 10 chinese soldiers.CPC is going to collapse soon!!India is free kindom with democracy.Just leave alone the Evil dictatorship terrorist china away and stop put two country together.

 

[Tractor]

As Rousseau had said the weather is the reason why Asia backward espesially India when human civilization came to high end.

 

[Luca1]

Actually it is the other way: Chinese love anything white and almost forgot their culture and traditions. India on the other hand still follow its culture.

India still practice arranged marriage and its culture of mistreatment of women. It's time to end this culture..

 

[Sam.]

India still practice arranged marriage and its culture of mistreatment of women. It's time to end this culture..

Yes we do arrange marriage and your point is?

If you meet a women in bar and dance bars then it's ok to fall in love and marry but if you meet because your parents finalize the meeting guess it's wrong?

Talk about adopting western ways so be happy chinese guy you have new master now(western world). You are their third world factory to make cheap products.