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[Huan]

A possible dispute with Russia would be over the occupation of China's Outer Manchuria since the period of unequal treaties.

 

[Chinese Century]

russian tech is pretty primitive. china has surpassed russian technology in 90% of weapons.

 

[below_freezing]

But not in nuclear weapons. That's why no one talks sh*t about Russia but foreigners living in China talk sh*t about China. Only nukes bring peace.

 

[Speeder 2]

nah...

Russia to deploy ptldM3 inside a re-education camp near China.

 

[peaceful]

If your tech is so good why hack a pentagon network to see f 35 blueprint to help with j20

If the tech is so amazing why make the j 11 a blatant copy if the sukhoi

If your tech is so good why use us tech in the form of isreali Protoype to build the j 10

Why is your ws-10 a rip off GE engine



Why?

because our tech is not that good. we want to learn something from us and russia.

india paying huge price to get the cut down version, after decades, they are still doing that.
we say, we want your stuff, but we don't want to pay, we lend you some money, you build it, and then we copy it.

that is how it works.

happier now?

 

[Akasa]

because our tech is not that good. we want to learn something from us and russia.

india paying huge price to get the cut down version, after decades, they are still doing that.
we say, we want your stuff, but we don't want to pay, we lend you some money, you build it, and then we copy it.

that is how it works.

happier now?

US, maybe, but not much Russia anymore.

The main things we need to improve on are engines for aircraft.

China's bulk "copying" age ended in the late 1970s. Pretty much all equipment in PLA are indigenous now.

 

[Akasa]

russian tech is pretty primitive. china has surpassed russian technology in 90% of weapons.

Here are the areas that the Chinese are probably ahead of the Russians:
- Armored Vehicles
- Artillery
- Guided missiles
- Surface ships
- Laser weapons
- Small arms
- UAVs
- Ballistic missiles
- ASAT/ABM missiles

Here are the areas that the Russians are probably still ahead of the Chinese:
- Nuclear submarines
- Bomber aircraft
- Transport aircraft
- Aircraft engines
- Surface-to-air missiles

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

But not in nuclear weapons. That's why no one talks sh*t about Russia but foreigners living in China talk sh*t about China. Only nukes bring peace.

China has at least 3500 nukes, which is enough to vaporize any nation in the World.

But the problem is that the Chinese government acts very soft in its diplomacy, even the North Koreans can act very tough since they have nothing to lose unlike China.

 

[ptldM3]

russian tech is pretty primitive. china has surpassed russian technology in 90% of weapons.

When I see statements such as China has surpassed or China will surpass I can't help but shake my head; mostly because civilian fan boys are overwhelmed when I ask them to back up their claims with technical and reliable details. The problem is most of everything about a weapon or weapons system is classified, besides very general specifications. weapons technology could be everything from sonar’s, jammers, aircraft engines, and seekers to mission computers, than comes the entire weapon, a weapon can be everything from a submarine which has thousands of weapons systems to an aircraft which is also made up of many systems. For example, a radar is a complex weapons system, resolution, ground mapping, range, jamming countermeasure, side lobes, and data-link capability are just some features of a radar. Besides basic specifications such as range and side lobes there is not much revealed about radars, this especially hold true for China, since very little is know about Chinese weapons.

To some it up your 90% figure is ridiculous, unless of course you can verify it to be true. If so go ahead and pull up technical details to back up your claim. And please do take your time because you'll need an equivalent of a library full of literature to fully cover the broad and I put an emphasis on broad range of weapons systems and subsystems, which number in the thousands.

 

[akinkhoo]

Here are the areas that the Chinese are probably ahead of the Russians:
- Armored Vehicles
- Artillery
- Guided missiles
- Surface ships
- Laser weapons
- Small arms
- UAVs
- Ballistic missiles
- ASAT/ABM missiles

Here are the areas that the Russians are probably still ahead of the Chinese:
- Nuclear submarines
- Bomber aircraft
- Transport aircraft
- Aircraft engines
- Surface-to-air missiles

i would actually rate russia's
- Ballistic missiles
- ASAT/ABM missiles
above that of China's

 

[below_freezing]

When I see statements such as China has surpassed or China will surpass I can't help but shake my head; mostly because civilian fan boys are overwhelmed when I ask them to back up their claims with technical and reliable details. The problem is most of everything about a weapon or weapons system is classified, besides very general specifications. weapons technology could be everything from sonar’s, jammers, aircraft engines, and seekers to mission computers, than comes the entire weapon, a weapon can be everything from a submarine which has thousands of weapons systems to an aircraft which is also made up of many systems. For example, a radar is a complex weapons system, resolution, ground mapping, range, jamming countermeasure, side lobes, and data-link capability are just some features of a radar. Besides basic specifications such as range and side lobes there is not much revealed about radars, this especially hold true for China, since very little is know about Chinese weapons.

To some it up your 90% figure is ridiculous, unless of course you can verify it to be true. If so go ahead and pull up technical details to back up your claim. And please do take your time because you'll need an equivalent of a library full of literature to fully cover the broad and I put an emphasis on broad range of weapons systems and subsystems, which number in the thousands.

I'd just like to make some simple extrapolations. Radar systems are a measure of the electronics making capabilities of a country. There are 3 mainland Chinese and 4 Taiwan companies in the top 18 semiconductor foundries. There are 0 in Russia. There are 0 Russian IDMs in the top 20.

Chemical and steel production are major factors in shipbuilding. China manufactures 40% of the world's steel, 60% of the world's chemical fibers, and has 2 top 10 chemical companies. Russia has 0 top 10 chemical companies.

Scientific publications are another measure of technical skill. China beats Russia in both citations per paper and in absolute number.

 

[Malik Usman]

Are you Indian or Pakistani? You keep changing your flags

If he is putting comments against China and Pakistan...........Then surely he is Indian............as mostly Indians are here to make propoganda agains Pakistan.

 

[Ammyy]

russian tech is pretty primitive. china has surpassed russian technology in 90% of weapons.

tell me any one weapon is which China is ahead of Russia or I will tell all the items in China is still far behind Russia

To start with S400 (China made copy of it), Russian Engine even in their J20

 

[SR 71 Blackbird]

China has at least 3500 nukes, which is enough to vaporize any nation in the World.

But the problem is that the Chinese government acts very soft in its diplomacy, even the North Koreans can act very tough since they have nothing to lose unlike China.

China 3500 nukes??
Well then
US:50000nukes
Russia:56000nukes
France:5000nukes
UK:3200nukes
Pakistan:2500-3000nukes
India:2200-2700nukes.

 

[SR 71 Blackbird]

I'd just like to make some simple extrapolations. Radar systems are a measure of the electronics making capabilities of a country. There are 3 mainland Chinese and 4 Taiwan companies in the top 18 semiconductor foundries. There are 0 in Russia. There are 0 Russian IDMs in the top 20.

Chemical and steel production are major factors in shipbuilding. China manufactures 40% of the world's steel, 60% of the world's chemical fibers, and has 2 top 10 chemical companies. Russia has 0 top 10 chemical companies.

Scientific publications are another measure of technical skill. China beats Russia in both citations per paper and in absolute number.

Yes but that doesn't mean Chinese military tech>Russian military tech.