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There were speculations that China may be interested in AL-41F1S and for that may even buy SU-35, but so far there has been no official confirmation from the Chinese side. If AL-41FIS is indeed on cards, i wonder what sort of performance improvements it will bring to J-20 & J-31.
 
There were speculations that China may be interested in AL-41F1S and for that may even buy SU-35, but so far there has been no official confirmation from the Chinese side. If AL-41FIS is indeed on cards, i wonder what sort of performance improvements it will bring to J-20 & J-31.

As an interim-engine in place of the current AL-31FN series 3 it surely is a step ahead, but only for the J-20, since for the FC-31 this engine does not fit.

By the way... can we stay on Topic please???
 
The Chinese People’s Liberation Army-Air Force (PLAAF) is slated to receive the first four out of 24 Russian-made Sukhoi Su-35 multirole fighter jets, the governor of Khabarovsk Krai, a federal subject located in the Russian Far East, said in a speech during the opening of a new aircraft production plan on September 15, according to local media reports.

From 2016 to 2018 the Komsomolsk-on-Amur Aircraft Production plant will deliver 24 Su-35 combat aircraft to China, the governor said. China first showed interest in one of Russia’s most modern combat aircraft in 2008. Negotiations over the Su-35 deal began in 2011. A preliminary agreement was reached in 2012 with a final sales contract signed in November 2015.

“The Su-35 (NATO reporting name: Flanker-E) is a Fourth++ generation, twin-engine, highly maneuverable multirole fighter jet powered by two AL-117S turbofan engines. The Russian aircraft’s powerful turbofan engine is also the most likely reason why China is interested in acquiring Su-35 fighters,” Ipreviously explained.

One of the reasons for China’s interest in the Su-35 is its AL-117S turbofan engine. Russia has repeatedly refused to sell the engine as a stand-alone product, which left the PLAAF with little choice but to acquire the entire aircraft. The Chinese military aviation industry is still struggling with designing and building an engine for its new fifth-generation stealth fighter prototype, the Chengdu J-20.

“The most advanced Chinese-made military turbofan currently in use is the WS-10, which, however, also underperforms, according to some reports,” I explained elsewhere (See: “Confirmed: China Buys 24 Advanced Fighter Jets From Russia”). Both of the PLAAF’s new fifth-generation fighter jet prototypes–the Chengdu J-20 and Shenyang J-31–are equipped with older Russian-made jet engines, the former with the Saturn AL-31 the latter with the Klimov RD-93.

China’s aviation industry has been pushing hard to domestically develop and build high-performance turbofan engines. In August 2016, Beijing announced that it set up a new state-owned aircraft engine maker to accelerate the development of new jet engines. China, for example, is currently working on the WS-13 Taishan turbofan, a derivative of the Russian Klimov RD-33 turbofan.

Obtaining the Su-35 combat aircraft and its AL-117S turbofan engine would be a major boon for China’s aviation industry given that the engine could be reverse engineered. Next to the powerful engine, the Su-35, with its air refueling capability and its ability to carry external fuel tanks, will provide the PLAAF also with greater control of the skies over China and adjacent waters including the East and South China Seas.
 
Can you edit the article to include the source?

Nevertheless, I found this quote intriguing.

Obtaining the Su-35 combat aircraft and its AL-117S turbofan engine would be a major boon for China’s aviation industry given that the engine could be reverse engineered. Next to the powerful engine, the Su-35, with its air refueling capability and its ability to carry external fuel tanks, will provide the PLAAF also with greater control of the skies over China and adjacent waters including the East and South China Seas.

So China bought the aircraft to reverse engineer the engines? Why would Russia let them do such a thing?
 
Can you edit the article to include the source?

Nevertheless, I found this quote intriguing.



So China bought the aircraft to reverse engineer the engines? Why would Russia let them do such a thing?

The Russians are making money. And the 117S is old compared to the 117, let alone the Type 30. And on top of that they will take a decade to reverse engineer it if that's what they are looking for. So it's fine.

They probably want the engines as a stop gap, possibly for their J-20 before the Chinese engine is ready.
 
Is the Flanker-E a better plane then the F-35?

No. But it has some good advantages that makes it incomparable like larger radar, higher performance, missile load etc.

If the F-35's stealth is defeated due to advances in sensors, then obviously the Su-35 is better.
 
The Chinese People’s Liberation Army-Air Force (PLAAF) is slated to receive the first four out of 24 Russian-made Sukhoi Su-35 multirole fighter jets, the governor of Khabarovsk Krai, a federal subject located in the Russian Far East, said in a speech during the opening of a new aircraft production plan on September 15, according to local media reports.

From 2016 to 2018 the Komsomolsk-on-Amur Aircraft Production plant will deliver 24 Su-35 combat aircraft to China, the governor said. China first showed interest in one of Russia’s most modern combat aircraft in 2008. Negotiations over the Su-35 deal began in 2011. A preliminary agreement was reached in 2012 with a final sales contract signed in November 2015.

“The Su-35 (NATO reporting name: Flanker-E) is a Fourth++ generation, twin-engine, highly maneuverable multirole fighter jet powered by two AL-117S turbofan engines. The Russian aircraft’s powerful turbofan engine is also the most likely reason why China is interested in acquiring Su-35 fighters,” Ipreviously explained.

One of the reasons for China’s interest in the Su-35 is its AL-117S turbofan engine. Russia has repeatedly refused to sell the engine as a stand-alone product, which left the PLAAF with little choice but to acquire the entire aircraft. The Chinese military aviation industry is still struggling with designing and building an engine for its new fifth-generation stealth fighter prototype, the Chengdu J-20.

“The most advanced Chinese-made military turbofan currently in use is the WS-10, which, however, also underperforms, according to some reports,” I explained elsewhere (See: “Confirmed: China Buys 24 Advanced Fighter Jets From Russia”). Both of the PLAAF’s new fifth-generation fighter jet prototypes–the Chengdu J-20 and Shenyang J-31–are equipped with older Russian-made jet engines, the former with the Saturn AL-31 the latter with the Klimov RD-93.

China’s aviation industry has been pushing hard to domestically develop and build high-performance turbofan engines. In August 2016, Beijing announced that it set up a new state-owned aircraft engine maker to accelerate the development of new jet engines. China, for example, is currently working on the WS-13 Taishan turbofan, a derivative of the Russian Klimov RD-33 turbofan.

Obtaining the Su-35 combat aircraft and its AL-117S turbofan engine would be a major boon for China’s aviation industry given that the engine could be reverse engineered. Next to the powerful engine, the Su-35, with its air refueling capability and its ability to carry external fuel tanks, will provide the PLAAF also with greater control of the skies over China and adjacent waters including the East and South China Seas.
Why to struggle more
Plaa should kidnap couple of advance engine engineers and make them develop if they don't get through officially
 
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NI talked about the advantages of the Su-35 Russian over the American F-15
KHABAROVSK, September 15 -. RIA Novosti Komsomolsk-on-Amur aviation plant (KnAAZ) in the Khabarovsk region before the end of the year will deliver to China four aircraft Su-35, said Thursday at the opening ceremony of the new plant factory governor of the region Vyacheslav Shport.


"From 2016 to 2018 is provided in the manufacturing and shipment KnAAZ 24 aircraft Su-35 for China in the current year it is planned to deliver four aircraft to China." - Shport said.

Earlier it was reported that a contract to supply 24 multi-role fighters Su-35 4 ++ generation was signed in 2015. Generation 4 ++ conditional and indicates that the aggregate characteristics of the Su-35 right up close to the fifth-generation fighter: with the exception of stealth technology and AFAR it meets most of the requirements in the fifth-generation aircraft.





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An expert in the field of aircraft: F-35 can fly beautifully in a movie
According to some experts, the Russian Su-35 can be a serious adversary for the F-15, the Eurofighter and Rafale. This fighter by some characteristics bypasses NATO military aircraft of the fifth generation. In addition, experts say that the Russian aircraft is not inferior to the best western fourth-generation fighters, if not exceed them. The speed of the Su-35 and a large weapons load will allow him to fight outside the line of sight. A maneuverability and EW Su-35 will help to evade enemy missiles.


Currently in service in the Russian Air Force has 48 Su-35, but their number will more than double in the next five years. Russian fighter interested in and abroad. Algeria, Egypt, Venezuela and Vietnam are also potential customers.
 
I remember post 1990s era. When Russian were selling everything to everybody. Money was direly needed.
 
Yes because a couple of kidnapped aerospace engineers wouldn't raise any eyebrows...
It's damn serious competition dear bro why should they waste time for next 5/10 years they are only lacking in engines especially... imagine 5generation engine manufacturing in China will help Chinese future generations jets as wl as our programme :sick::rofl::lol:
 
Why to struggle more
Plaa should kidnap couple of advance engine engineers and make them develop if they don't get through officially


:lol:

And if they refuse then what? Shoot them? What can possibly go wrong if this actually happened and it was discovered?
 

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