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[Akasa]

Don't let 5th gen looks fool you mate.

No, but don't let unwarranted doubt fool you either.

What about your claims of J-11 D being equal to SU-35 ?

What makes you think that the deal, assuming that it turns out to be true, is about capability rather than a need for certain subsystems, such as engines?

 

[cnleio]

What about your claims of J-11 D being equal to SU-35 ?

I didn't say that ... J-11D is the China flanker with AESA radar.

Anyways One hand buying Su-35, one hand building J-11D, both continue nobody tell u Chinese won't design & produce more domestic fighters. Do u think 24x Su-35 deal is many for PLAAF ?

 

[Perpendicular]

unwarranted

Unwarranted !
After this deal.

 

[Akasa]

Unwarranted !
After this deal.

Again, if this news turns out to be true, what makes you think the Chinese are buying Su-35s for their abilities?

 

[volatile]

Seems W/W for both china can fullfill there gap of acquiring latest fighter with its own assembly as well .Russia finds buyer .I wish PAF can also club there deal either with China on purchasing SU35 from Russia (combine order) or with any friendly country .

 

[Akasa]

Seems W/W for both china can fullfill there gap of acquiring latest fighter with its own assembly as well .Russia finds buyer .I wish PAF can also club there deal either with China on purchasing SU35 from Russia (combine order) or with any friendly country .

Highly doubtful that a potential Su-35 purchase is for "filling gaps"; 24 is too few for that.

 

[volatile]

Highly doubtful that a potential Su-35 purchase is for "filling gaps"; 24 is too few for that.

No but also gives access to 48 engines .See This deal makes sense

 

[Sanchez]

According to the weibo of Xu Yonglin, the contract was signed. It's more of a political decision than military.

 

[Deino]

At least I wouldn't mind !

 

[Brainsucker]

What about your claims of J-11 D being equal to SU-35 ?

It is not a matter of quality / technology. It's a matter of quantity. At least, that what I see from what Cnleio said.

 

[Zarvan]

At least I wouldn't mind !

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Well questions would be raised on Chinese claim about J-11 D

 

[Deino]

A hint for maybe the true reason of this deal:

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На встрече с представителями КНР управляющий директор УМПО Евгений Семивеличенко подтвердил готовность предприятия выполнять существующие обязательства в рамках военно-технического сотрудничества между двумя странами, также возможность работать по перспективным проектам, в том числе по двигателям АЛ‑41Ф‑1С, применяемым на новейших истребителях Су‑35 и серийно производящимся на заводе.
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Делегация высшего государственного и военного руководства КНР посетила крупнейшее предприятие ОДК

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At a meeting with representatives of CHINA Managing Director of "UMPO" Eugene Semiveličenko confirmed the readiness of enterprises to implement existing commitments in the framework of the military-technical cooperation between the two countries, also the opportunity to work on promising projects, including the AL‑41F‑1Sengines used on the latest fighters Su‑35 and where to plant.
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Via Bing !

Deino

 

[Akasa]

Well questions would be raised on Chinese claim about J-11 D

Why? The deal, if true, doesn't sound like it was due to a need for a "better plane".

 

[Deino]

Well questions would be raised on Chinese claim about J-11 D

Why ??? The D is still in development and as such I think we all should calm down and first of all wait for confirmation even if I agree, that this time it seems much more reliable than all previous reports.

As such all our personnel feelings - be that "Russian-fan-boy like: hey You get out best fighter, so Your J-11s must be worse !! - or PLAAF-na-boy like: they are stupid, the PLAAF has the J-11D, so all is wrong - should be out aside.

If the PLAAF will get the Su-35, so take it what it is: A win_win-situatioin for both !!

The PLAAF will get a new fighter, that brings new capabilities, an inseight into the nearyl latest Russian avionics and propulsion systems, the opportunity to explore TVC for the first time ans as such to develop tactics to use or avoid them ... and maybe also access to the 117S engine to power the the J-20. Weren't there reports abaout a mayor engine -surprise on '2017' ???

And Russia receives finally an export customer for its Su-35, much public attention and by the way .. that all for only 2 billion $ !

 

[egodoc222]

The country that claims that it has two fifth gen fighter programs running and ready for mass production...buys 4++ gen fighter??
Lol
It speaks volumes about the technological gap between two countries!!