China aims to capture Arunachal Pradesh/Southern Tibet in next 10-15 years

[MH.Yang]

Like Taiwan for example

take a look at 11#

 

[magra]

It is India that is not sincere in conducting border negotiations, not China.
It is India that provoked the galawan incident, not China.
It is India that deliberately creating external enemies to divert internal contradictions, not China.

How is India to blame here. You acknowledge Arunachal Pradesh and Ladakh as Indian territory, we will forgo our claim over Aksai Chin.
Is China prepared to do it?

Who started Galwan or any other incident is a matter of perspective. Lets agree on the broader territorial settlement first. Finer points can be handled then.

 

[大汉奸柳传志]

birds fly, grasses grow and great powers expand.

it's just the law of nature

 

[magra]

Chinese had been coming for years for India.
For your information Pakistan had never been part of India.
India was part of Pakistan.

Tell me when The British were ruling over you, were you part of the Great British Empire or Great British Empire was part of India!!

When the British gradually took over India , most of it was under Muslim's rule. So how India was ruling over Pakistan!!
Remember, the resistance was put by people like Tipu Sultan and Nawab Sirajudullah. While the Hindus were planning and helping the British to capture the land through their treacherous acts.

You are a victim of selective historical information.

Mughals were largely a spent force after Aurangzeb and Mughal emperors were puppets of Marathas from 1750 till 1800. In the west, Punjab and Kashmir was under Sikh / Dogra rule before British defeated them.

 

[Foinikas]

take a look at 11#

We won't agree,but you made some good points generally when it comes to China-India.

 

[magra]

Chinese will sign it, of course in due time. The salami slicing you see is something which is being done below an all out war threshold and both sides can do it.

Salami slicing being done by both sides wastes resources, achieves little territorial gains, builds massive distrust, and derails focus from actual work.

 

[crankthatskunk]

You are a victim of selective historical information.

Mughals were largely a spent force after Aurangzeb and Mughal emperors were puppets of Marathas from 1750 till 1800. In the west, Punjab and Kashmir was under Sikh / Dogra rule before British defeated them.

Well, India is a puppet of USA at the moment, so I guess Indians are not ruling India at the moment!! Right!!

 

[magra]

India lost an opportunity to resolve this issue, when in 1960, Chou En-lai, during his visit to India, offered to settle boundaries, on the basis of de facto/actual control, that is McMohan Line, in NEFA, and China's Claim Line, in Laddakh. It was a sort of swap, which India rejected.

I agree in principle. At that time, India was not willing to give away Aksai Chin without a fight. India underestimated its military's weaknesses and also made some major errors in the 1962 war such as not using Air Force.
However, even if we Indians feel that we have the right over Aksai Chin, we recognize that it will not be possible to retake it, so we are now willing to settle the border based on present realities.

 

[Taimoor Khan]

Salami slicing is working just fine. No bullets fired, no one has to die unless Col babu and co decide to play rambo.

then the PRC will claim the whole of Pakistan on historical evidence that Pakistan was part of India in the past and that Pakistan was founded by Indians themselves!

It was British raj of India, nothing to do with current India. And before that Muslim rule of 1000 thousand years. I think we will just compromise with our Iron bros on which part of India we both want, we being the custodian of Muslim empire. And ofcourse there is a matter of Indus civilization through which we can claim a lot of territory.

 

[magra]

birds fly, grasses grow and great powers expand.

it's just the law of nature

So are you acknowledging China's imperialist ambitions in these lofty claims?

Well, India is a puppet of USA at the moment, so I guess Indians are not ruling India at the moment!! Right!!

Had India been a puppet of USA, we could not have liberated BD when US was on opposite side.
We could not have done 1974 nuclear test which US was opposed to.

In present times, we could not have stuck to the military deals with Russia had we been US puppets.

 

[Imran Khan]

indians are so much unsecured . always they have fear of someone

 

[kankan326]

Misleading topic. So far China has no plan to take over South Tibet. All the hostile moves were initiated by India. China just responded accordingly.

 

[SIPRA]

I agree in principle. At that time, India was not willing to give away Aksai Chin without a fight. India underestimated its military's weaknesses and also made some major errors in the 1962 war such as not using Air Force.
However, even if we Indians feel that we have the right over Aksai Chin, we recognize that it will not be possible to retake it, so we are now willing to settle the border based on present realities.

I think that, what you are saying, may be your personal opinion, and may be of some other Indians; but it is not at all the stated official position of the Indian government. Your Home Minister, Amit Shah, quite recently, reiterated that India will take back Aksai Chin, at any cost.

indians are so much unsecured . always they have fear of someone

Gaaf lagi phatnay
Tau, prasad laga batnay

 

[magra]

I think that, what you are saying, may be your personal opinion, and may be of some other Indians; but it is not at all the stated official position of the Indian government. Your Home Minister, Amit Shah, quite recently, reiterated that India will take back Aksai Chin, at any cost.

Officially we will ofcourse claim Aksai Chin until a treaty is signed by both sides. I am just telling you the prevailing Indian sentiment that we are willing to settle with what we have.

 

[SIPRA]

Officially we will ofcourse claim Aksai Chin until a treaty is signed by both sides. I am just telling you the prevailing Indian sentiment that we are willing to settle with what we have.

I don't think so. But, you have a right to your opinion. There is no indication at all, that India is ready to forgo its claim on Aksai Chin; whereas much before 1962, there were scores of clear indications from China, that they are ready for a barter of NEFA versus Aksai Chin.