China aims to capture Arunachal Pradesh/Southern Tibet in next 10-15 years

[Leishangthem]

UN is a toothless body which is kicked over by any power. US does not consult it before invading any country. China does not agree with UN over South China Sea disputes.
UN is anyway a 2 class system with an out-dated policy of giving extra powers to victors of WW2 (permanant position and veto power).
Imagine a mid-level nation like UK / France getting it but nations like Germany , Japan and India kept out.

UN needs a reform where no nations get permanent position or veto power.

Hmm.. By same logic then, Tibet is also India's historical territory as it has India's cultural and religious site - Kailash Mansarover.

How is that same logic though. Tibet was always part of china even before pla arrived in 1951 ,tibet was still regarded as china by the US ,UK and whole world .It was free and rebel state for a while due to vacancy of central authority due to ongoing civil war.

Arunachal youth might prefer China over poor destitute India and their law over them,given a referendum.Arunachal isn't like Nagaland ,Manipur,Mizoram with strong indigenous affinity that would rather be independent rather than giving their independence to china. For Manipur was an independent nation and Naga hills(nagaland) ,Lushai Hills(Mizoram + parts of Cachar) was also independent entities ,meanwhile Arunachal was south Tibet.

If nations started demanding land based on religion than .........

 

[IblinI]

China does talk no action

Says an Indian who loves to post about future game changer weapon which most all of them are still on paper.

We have been in war and conflict with Yankees directly after ww2 at their highest in Korea when we were dirt poor, 1969 with soviet and ofc, 1962 ( your general loved the trip to tibet).
dude, your entire nation will be pissed in the pants the moment you guys heard about going to war with Yankees.

 

[magra]

How is that same logic though. Tibet was always part of china even before pla arrived in 1951 ,tibet was still regarded as china by the US ,UK and whole world .It was free and rebel state for a while due to vacancy of central authority due to ongoing civil war.

Chinese need to be clear on what is China - is it present Chinese controlled area or some historical territorities occupied at its zenith by a dynasty ? If latter, then many imperialist nations of the world would claim a lot of land and will create all kinds of confusion.

Arunachal youth might prefer China over poor destitute India and their law over them,given a referendum.

You cannot see-saw between nations based on level of prosperity. Pre-1970, India and China were at same level of prosperity. Now China is ahead, may be later India might be ahead.
Anyways, it is pure speculation as we have no reports of Arunachal youth having any pro-Chinese desire.

If nations started demanding land based on religion than .........

Where did religion come in this discussion?

 

[Vapnope]

Chinese are not trying to take over Indian area as can be seen from their conduct in recent years. The live drills, acclimation and development of military infra is to plug the gaps in operational capability to ensure that India does not try any adventure to capture any Chinese territory.

The current issue in Ladakh was to put pressure on Indian state so they don't go after KKH in Pakistan. You will notice that despite Daulet Beg oldie being vulnerable, Chinese didn't capture it because due to its strategic importance it would have escalated the issue.

The second thing is contingency planning near Chicken neck. While China shows no intent to attack it, she has prepared herself well to threaten it if India side manages a breakthrough in Aksai Chin.

Lastly, capturing large swathes of areas is not being planned by any country due to presence of nukes in all three countries.

 

[magra]

Chinese are not trying to take over Indian area as can be seen from their conduct in recent years. The live drills, acclimation and development of military infra is to plug the gaps in operational capability to ensure that India does not try any adventure to capture any Chinese territory.

The current issue in Ladakh was to put pressure on Indian state so they don't go after KKH in Pakistan. You will notice that despite Daulet Beg oldie being vulnerable, Chinese didn't capture it because due to its strategic importance it would have escalated the issue.

The second thing is contingency planning near Chicken neck. While China shows no intent to attack it, she has prepared herself well to threaten it if India side manages a breakthrough in Aksai Chin.

Lastly, capturing large swathes of areas is not being planned by any country due to presence of nukes in all three countries.

If there is no intent of capturing territories, why not just sign the treaty and settle the borders. Get on with the business of caring for the citizens, instead of wasting resources on ammunitions and bravado shows.

 

[arjunk]

So China gonna capture Arunachal Pradesh by 2040.

If China captures whole of India and make it a part of PRC by 2100, then the PRC will claim the whole of Pakistan on historical evidence that Pakistan was part of India in the past and that Pakistan was founded by Indians themselves!

So I think Pakistan should support India against China for it's own existence' sake because if it doesnt, then, well, the Chinese are coming.

The only delusional people are Indians, because no one else believes Pakistan was ever a part of India or that India existed before the British created it. The Chinese already gave us 2000km^2 of land from Xinjiang in 1962 while India was getting an *** beating in Aksai Chin and Arunachal Pradesh. They are not stupid and base their territorial claims off historical facts.

 

[MH.Yang]

If there is no intent of capturing territories, why not just sign the treaty and settle the borders. Get on with the business of caring for the citizens, instead of wasting resources on ammunitions and bravado shows.

It is India that is not sincere in conducting border negotiations, not China.
It is India that provoked the galawan incident, not China.
It is India that deliberately creating external enemies to divert internal contradictions, not China.

 

[MH.Yang]

I don't mean it.
I don't know his name and don't want to go to Google.

 

[crankthatskunk]

So China gonna capture Arunachal Pradesh by 2040.

If China captures whole of India and make it a part of PRC by 2100, then the PRC will claim the whole of Pakistan on historical evidence that Pakistan was part of India in the past and that Pakistan was founded by Indians themselves!

So I think Pakistan should support India against China for it's own existence' sake because if it doesnt, then, well, the Chinese are coming.

Chinese had been coming for years for India.
For your information Pakistan had never been part of India.
India was part of Pakistan.

Tell me when The British were ruling over you, were you part of the Great British Empire or Great British Empire was part of India!!

When the British gradually took over India , most of it was under Muslim's rule. So how India was ruling over Pakistan!!
Remember, the resistance was put by people like Tipu Sultan and Nawab Sirajudullah. While the Hindus were planning and helping the British to capture the land through their treacherous acts.

 

[crankthatskunk]

China plans to squeeze the chickens neck and take over the seven sisters.

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This map only proves how cleverly the British divided the sub-continent.
The used same tactics in Punjab and Kashmir to give India upper hand to control the areas.

 

[Vapnope]

If there is no intent of capturing territories, why not just sign the treaty and settle the borders. Get on with the business of caring for the citizens, instead of wasting resources on ammunitions and bravado shows.

Chinese will sign it, of course in due time. The salami slicing you see is something which is being done below an all out war threshold and both sides can do it.

 

[SIPRA]

India lost an opportunity to resolve this issue, when in 1960, Chou En-lai, during his visit to India, offered to settle boundaries, on the basis of de facto/actual control, that is McMohan Line, in NEFA, and China's Claim Line, in Laddakh. It was a sort of swap, which India rejected.

 

[SIPRA]

I don't mean it.
I don't know his name and don't want to go to Google.

OK. But you have not responded to my earlier question. (Post # 30)

 

[MH.Yang]

Would you kindly enlighten me that what, in the view of Chinese state, shall comprise a proper settlement of boundary dispute between China and India, particularly with regard to the McMohan Line and Aksai Chin?

We will solve the problem according to the map of the Qing Dynasty.
In the southernTibet if the local people are willing to accept the rule of the PRC, we will be established an autonomous region. If not, we can support their independence.
Ladakh in the west is related to the security of CPEC, so we will negotiate with Pakistan to solve this problem.

 

[Foinikas]

China will not control land that does not support Chinese rule, because it is asking for trouble.

Like Taiwan for example