damiendehorn
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The UNSC was for the world war 2 victors and ex-imperial powers.
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If it wasn't, so many countries wouldn't have supported its claim including the SC's P5.
It does not matter China supports India or not. Nowhere written in the UN charter that inclusion of new members in UNSC requires absolute consensus. If US and RUSSIA support(which they are doing), it's then a matter of time to get membership and veto power.
What will happen when the interests collide? I
It does not matter China supports India or not. Nowhere written in the UN charter that inclusion of new members in UNSC requires absolute consensus. If US and RUSSIA support(which they are doing), it's then a matter of time to get membership and veto power.
Article 108
Amendments to the present Charter shall come into force for all Members of the United Nations when they have been adopted by a vote of two thirds of the members of the General Assembly and ratified in accordance with their respective constitutional processes by two thirds of the Members of the United Nations, including ALL the permanent members of the Security Council.
So without veto power?
Isn't that kind of against the point?
Well USA calls the last shot ....
Obama in India: Why his Security Council overtures ring hollow
Obama in India: Why his Security Council overtures ring hollow - CSMonitor.com
President Obama endorsed India for a permanent seat on the UN Security Council as part of a push to modernize the body. But as Japan knows, the road to permanent membership is full of obstacles.
LOL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Keep dreaming while it takes only 1 per. member to slash India's dream and that's a fact !
That will never happen because USA will not allow the per. U.N. club to reform and therefore no new members will join the club.
I too believe that this veto system is wrong. Security Council is an organisation whose aim is to establish peace in the world, not an organisation made to further the policies of a handful of countries. Its structure should be that resolutions should be passed through the democratic votes of all countries of the world and there should be no veto. In fact, I believe that rather than campaigning for a permanent seat, India should lobby with other countries of the world and open a front with them to put pressure on UN to reform SC in favor of a democratic structure.
Well.. That's your opinion. But be prepared for the day when it happens.
I too believe that this veto system is wrong. Security Council is an organisation whose aim is to establish peace in the world, not an organisation made to further the policies of a handful of countries. Its structure should be that resolutions should be passed through the democratic votes of all countries of the world and there should be no veto. In fact, I believe that rather than campaigning for a permanent seat, India should lobby with other countries of the world and open a front with them to put pressure on UN to reform SC in favor of a democratic structure.
You need an independent foreign policy to be a permanent member of the UNSC. And India fails to fit this criteria. You cannot become a major power if you are a mere vassal state of another power. Until India gets an independent foreign policy, India will not get permanent seat in the UNSC. Countries pay lip service but that will be it.
India has done nothing to deserve being taken seriously as a global power. The Indian military is extremely weak, it's economy tiny, very limited technological base, weak currency, and most importantly have no independent foreign policy.
Sure, the veto power is both unfair and meaningless.
But so what?
Geopolitics is all about one thing, serving your own national interests. That's how the world works, and it has never been fair.
Do you expect the Indian government to work all day and spend all their money to further the interests of Italy or Mexico? No, you want them to work for their own country.
Incorrect.
Here is a link to the UN charter, from the UN website.
Charter of the United Nations: Chapter XVIII: Amendments
What do you think if US and RUSSIA want
In order the amend the UN Charter, and to allow new permanent members into the UNSC... it needs to be ratified by ALL of the current permanent members. No exceptions, no neutral votes. It must be 5 positive votes from every member of the P5.
Though as long as it's without veto power as the President stated in the article, I don't see any problem.
EXACTLY!! India knows that the P5 will never give any other country veto power. So, we lobby for the next best thing and thats what we are doing.
You need an independent foreign policy to be a permanent member of the UNSC. And India fails to fit this criteria. You cannot become a major power if you are a mere vassal state of another power. Until India gets an independent foreign policy, India will not get permanent seat in the UNSC. Countries pay lip service but that will be it.
India has done nothing to deserve being taken seriously as a global power. The Indian military is extremely weak, it's economy tiny, very limited technological base, weak currency, and most importantly have no independent foreign policy.
US and RUSSIA want total reform in UN. Old garbage won't work.They made the rules.There is a difference between amendments and total reform or changing systems. Who knows the reformed UN (or any other named organization) will not be far away from this present one? There is no relevance of these rules.
You need not to amend anything when you are changing it totally.
So according to you, India is a "vassal state" of which power?
So according to you, India is a "vassal state" of which power?