Chengdu J-20 5th Generation Aircraft News & Discussions

[cirr]

But isn't the carrier-based 5g fighter supposed to be based on FC-31; can you explain?

A competition will be held between the 2 candidates.

 

[clarkgap]

CAIC does not give up?

 

[lcloo]

Result of the competition is not officially declared yet.

The upper management wants 31 but the end users want 20, as huahua implied. SO let's wait for the ink to dry, and the fat lady sings.

 

[Akasa]

Result of the competition is not officially declared yet.

The upper management wants 31 but the end users want 20, as huahua implied. SO let's wait for the ink to dry, and the fat lady sings.

Any idea as to how long it will take for them to reach a decision?

 

[clarkgap]

CAIC does not give up?

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http://cac.avic.com/web/a/xinwen/20170331/193.html

 

[cirr]

Delivery of J-20s to the 2nd unit under the Eastern Theater has started.

 

[Deino]

Delivery of J-20s to the 2nd unit under the Eastern Theater has started.

Any idea where they go to?
Eastern Theater Command does not leave that many options for a newly equipped Brigade:

There are the Fuzhou and Shanghai Bases with their Brigades:

- Fuzhou at first (as it seems former 14th AD) just received J-16 (40th Brig) and is equipped with J-11B (41st Brig) … the third unit is a J-7E unit (42nd Brig) but this is unconfirmed and IMO not a prime candidate for getting the latest high-end fighter.

- Shanghai in return (the original one + former 3rd AD) has also just received J-16 (7th Brig), flies J-10A (8th) and Su-30MKK (9th) ... as such are quite new types, whereas the 78th has J-8DH, the 85th has Su-30MKK (maybe moved to Fuzhou), the 86th has J-7E and finally the 93rd with JZ-8F. So also at best the 78th Brigade at Shanghai.

Hmmm … anyway another important milestone if true.

Deino

 

[Figaro]

 

[Dungeness]

2/9/2018, J-20 formally enter into PLAAF active service.

中国空军新闻发言人申进科大校2月9日发布消息，中国自主研制的新一代隐身战斗机歼-20，开始列装空军作战部队，向全面形成作战能力迈出重要一步。
　　歼-20战机于2016年11月参加中国珠海国际航展，首次公开进行飞行展示；2017年7月参加庆祝中国人民解放军建军90周年阅兵，首次以战斗姿态展示在世人面前，标志着空军向空天一体、攻防兼备的目标迈出了新的步伐。
　　歼-20战机交付空军后，实战实训逐步展开，飞行人才稳步成长，在空军“红剑-2017”体系对抗演习中发挥重要作用，为空军新质作战能力的提升打下基础。
　　空军发言人表示，空军正向全疆域作战的现代化战略性军种迈进，成为有效塑造态势、管控危机、遏制战争、打赢战争的重要力量。歼-20战机列装空军作战部队，将进一步提升空军综合作战能力，有助于空军更好的肩负起维护国家主权、安全和领土完整的神圣使命。

 

[Deino]

2/9/2018, J-20 formally enter into PLAAF active service.

中国空军新闻发言人申进科大校2月9日发布消息，中国自主研制的新一代隐身战斗机歼-20，开始列装空军作战部队，向全面形成作战能力迈出重要一步。
　　歼-20战机于2016年11月参加中国珠海国际航展，首次公开进行飞行展示；2017年7月参加庆祝中国人民解放军建军90周年阅兵，首次以战斗姿态展示在世人面前，标志着空军向空天一体、攻防兼备的目标迈出了新的步伐。
　　歼-20战机交付空军后，实战实训逐步展开，飞行人才稳步成长，在空军“红剑-2017”体系对抗演习中发挥重要作用，为空军新质作战能力的提升打下基础。
　　空军发言人表示，空军正向全疆域作战的现代化战略性军种迈进，成为有效塑造态势、管控危机、遏制战争、打赢战争的重要力量。歼-20战机列装空军作战部队，将进一步提升空军综合作战能力，有助于空军更好的肩负起维护国家主权、安全和领土完整的神圣使命。

Interesting but even if the PLAAF officially confirmed this already last year, it is the first time it notes "full operational combat ready" aka some sort of FOC.

Come on ... all i want to know is what front-line unit gained them first.

Deino

 

[Dungeness]

Interesting but even if the PLAAF officially confirmed this already last year, it is the first time it notes "full operational combat ready" aka some sort of FOC.

Come on ... all i want to know is what front-line unit gained them first.

Deino

The information you are interested in is scattered around on Chinese forums. Now let's talk about the importance of learning Chinese.

 

[cirr]

Any idea where they go to?
Eastern Theater Command does not leave that many options for a newly equipped Brigade:

There are the Fuzhou and Shanghai Bases with their Brigades:

- Fuzhou at first (as it seems former 14th AD) just received J-16 (40th Brig) and is equipped with J-11B (41st Brig) … the third unit is a J-7E unit (42nd Brig) but this is unconfirmed and IMO not a prime candidate for getting the latest high-end fighter.

- Shanghai in return (the original one + former 3rd AD) has also just received J-16 (7th Brig), flies J-10A (8th) and Su-30MKK (9th) ... as such are quite new types, whereas the 78th has J-8DH, the 85th has Su-30MKK (maybe moved to Fuzhou), the 86th has J-7E and finally the 93rd with JZ-8F. So also at best the 78th Brigade at Shanghai.

Hmmm … anyway another important milestone if true.

Deino

The 9th

 

[Deino]

The 9th

So the 7th Brigade is getting J-16, which are are replacing the Su-30MKK in the 9th which in return gets J-20As ? That would make perfectly sense.

However why they not directly replaces the Su-30MKK with J-16 and assign J-20s to the 7th I don't know.

Thanks,
Deino

 

[52051]

The 9th brigade who get J-20s, is stationed in Wuhu, which is responsible for the East China sea direction.

 

[Deino]

The 9th brigade who get J-20s, is stationed in Wuhu, which is responsible for the East China sea direction.

Indeed ... I only wonder, why the PLAAF does not directly replaces the Su-30MKK with J-16 in the 9th Brigade and assign J-20s to the 7th.