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Chengdu J-20 5th Generation Aircraft News & Discussions

@Zhu Rong Zheng Yang !!

Calm down ! To tell the manufacturing quality of the J-20 better than the T50 is not "offensive and insulting for the most important PRC backbone ally" but a fact. As such leave all that strange historical issues and accusations against the US ... these are irrelevant, false and off topic. :offpost:

Deino




Already done ! ... by the way, what's Your conclusion on the latest engine discussion ?

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/the-...-to-keep-the-j-20-thread-clean.514445/page-15
@Asoka still believes that the J-20 is equipped with a 3D thrust vectoring, 210 kN, and AL-31F nozzled WS-15 engine. So his conclusion remains the same ...
 
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@Asoka still believes that the J-20 is equipped with a 3D thrust vectoring, 210 kN, and AL-31F nozzled WS-15 engine. So his conclusion remains the same ...

Yes, I do. That is still my conclusion

Some guy posted a picture of J-20, alongside with a picture of Taihang mountain, don't change anything.

It is strange that some people think it does.
 
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I dunno but it feel like not a real photo. It's a kind of an illustration / 3d picture than a real photo.
If you watched recent Star Wars movie (Rogue One) and see the 3d animation of some characters there (like Princess Leia and the Imperial General), you can see that this J-20 photo has the feel like them. It's look real, but not. And you can see the different if you see them carefully.
 
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I dunno but it feel like not a real photo. It's a kind of an illustration / 3d picture than a real photo.
If you watched recent Star Wars movie (Rogue One) and see the 3d animation of some characters there (like Princess Leia and the Imperial General), you can see that this J-20 photo has the feel like them. It's look real, but not. And you can see the different if you see them carefully.


It is most likely a digitally enhanced image - hey it's an advertising photo for a movie ! - but IMO not a CGI.
 
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New bird with new engines?:D:D
 
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It is most likely a digitally enhanced image - hey it's an advertising photo for a movie ! - but IMO not a CGI.

From what we can see on the displayed landing gear and the details of the fuselage surface, it is not a CGI.

Looks to me from the original the image, it has been contrast increased, edge sharpened, saturation increased with the IRST windows blurred.
 
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The typical ejector nozzle of WS-10 series -- It is a variant of WS-10B.


Indeed. What I find remarkable is that this "typical ejector nozzle of WS-10 series" is quite similar to the French M53.

Mirage 4000 M.53 exhaust vs. WS-10A.jpg
 
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Yes indeed ! Looks like a new bird and clearly with a WS-10 of some sort. Just look at the internal structure.
That image really made my day. :smitten:

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Deino, I would caution against suggesting anything of that sort. It could be a very good PS as well. We need to see more pictures from different angles to get a conclusion
 
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It seems that some people here are still insistent on the J-20 being a cumbersome strike-fighter or interceptor, with little air to air maneuverability. Here is a short excerpt from a paper published by Dr. Song (the J-10 designer), the former head of the 611 Institute and mentor of Yang Wei. The "future fighter" he is referring to is the J-20; straight from the horse's mouth.
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More official commentary ...
Mass production of turbine blades by Chinese private firm to benefit military

By Liu Caiyu Source:Global Times Published: 2017/9/3

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J-20 fighter jets showed at the military parade of the 90th anniversary of the founding of the PLA in a three-plane formation. Photo: CFP

A private Chinese company is mass-producing single-crystal turbine blades for aircraft engines, previously a monopoly of the US, which experts said will help Chinese fighter jets sustain prolonged battles.

The single crystals are a key indicator of a jet engine's capability, and its ultra-strong heat resistance can make it power high performance aircrafts.

Southwest China's Sichuan Province-based private company, Chengdu Aerospace Superalloy Technology Co. Ltd., is reportedly capable of producing single-crystal turbine blades, which, experts said could benefit the military and improve the quality of domestic parts.

The firm, which relies on its parent company that produces rhenium, became China's first company to mass produce single-crystal turbine blades, China Central Television (CCTV) reported Sunday.

Rhenium is a key metal used in producing single-crystal turbine blades, 80 percent of which are used to produce aircraft engines, either jets or rockets, and is vital to the military, the report said.

"Mastering the production technology of single-crystal turbine blades and aero engines will offer assured supply to the army and increase our fighter jets' ability to withstand prolonged battles," Xu Guangyu, a retired rear admiral and senior adviser to the China Arms Control and Disarmament Association told the Global Times.

It brings strategic benefits to the army since most fighter jets were powered by Western engines, Xu said.

"China's J-20, J-31 and H-20 fighter jets are now powered by homemade engines that feature domestic single-crystal turbine blades," Xu added.

According to Zhang Zheng, chairman of the board of the Chengdu Aerospace Superalloy Technology, told CCTV that products produced by his company have a huge market because the US had blocked core production techniques.

"Civil-military integration would boost not only the civil but also military aviation industry. It would be great achievement if China's C919 passenger jumbo jet can be powered by domestic engines," Xu said.

It's rare to see a private Chinese company master the technology used for aircraft engines, since most of technology of single-crystal turbine blades is in hands of State companies, Wang Yanan, chief editor of the Aerospace Knowledge magazine, told the Global Times.

Private firms' entry into the aviation industry would help increase its capacity and efficiency, Wang said. "Because of differences in management style, private firms are more cost-efficient, which is likely to bring a new perspective to the current industry. They are more efficient and competitive in terms of quality," Wang said.

China's 13th Five-year Plan for the National Development of Strategic Emerging Industries, which was released in 2016, highlights the need to improve homemade aircraft engines and develop the domestic aircraft industry.
 
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Oh come on ... "China's J-20, J-31 and H-20 fighter jets are now powered by homemade engines that feature domestic single-crystal turbine blades," Xu added."

There is no J-31 right now and even less a H-20 fighter ! :hitwall::crazy: That report is so full of crap and BS.
 
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