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Chengdu J-10 Multirole Fighter Air Craft News & Discussions

1. Did "the PL-10 and PL-12" really "end up in RNKAF inventories" or could it be these are models/mock ups again?

You may not know much about North Korea. This is a personal display of North Korean leader Kim Jong Un. The North Korean military is unlikely to deceive their leaders with non-existent weapons. Therefore, even if it is a model, the North Korean military will certainly have real objects.
 
I can not really comfirm but a reports few months again indicated new air shelter, north Korean pilot spotted training in China. There is never such practice NK pilot send to China for training or mock up exercise. The only conclusion from those observation is , they are send to China to train for new type of fighter.

China promised not to sell missile that exceed 300km under weapon proliferation back by UN resolution . And yet we know Saudi buys DF-21 missile and even received ToT of such missile from China.

NK is always a backyard for PRC and we signed a partnership treaty with NK that's makes China oblige to provide defense weapon to help NK defend itself against aggressor.
Yes, it is politically possible.
In 2009, China endorsed the UN Security Council resolution on arms embargo against North Korea for a reason.
In 2008, the economic crisis broke out in USA. China and USA reached an agreement, and China decided to intervene in the U.S. economic crisis. China's relations with USA have temporarily entered a period of friendship. China is ready to use this period to build a Northeast Asia free trade area with South Korea, Japan and Russia. However, North Korea's frequent missile tests undermine the situation in Northeast Asia and provoke Obama. China needs to give Kim Il Sung a warning.
In recent years, the attitude of North Korea has changed a lot. With the deepening of the agricultural cooperation agreement between China and North Korea in 2004, North Korea has got rid of the problem of famine. North Koreans have enough sense of security, and will not fear and undermine the economic exchanges between China and South Korea and other countries. I think China can consider relaxing the arms embargo on North Korea.

BTW: In January 2022, the UN's new sanctions agreement on North Korea was not adopted by the Security Council. Now USS is imposing unilateral sanctions on North Korea. On February 7, 2022, China has publicly opposed such unilateral sanctions.
 
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Nice pic of J-10B (and J-16), from International Army Games 2021 in Russia

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Wow 😮 not only since it is the first image of a Batch 07 J-10C, but also since it confirms indeed that the J-10CPs for Pakistan are Batch 07!

And this is already the 20th J-10C within the 7th Batch.

(Image via liming1995/SDF)

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You may not know much about North Korea. This is a personal display of North Korean leader Kim Jong Un. The North Korean military is unlikely to deceive their leaders with non-existent weapons. Therefore, even if it is a model, the North Korean military will certainly have real objects.
Precisely, if those are props to cheat the beloved Leader Kim. Those idiot will surely meet the firing squad. They wouldnt dare to take some risk. Definitely its confirm before putting on display.
 
@帅的一匹
Q. Are there any limits on Engine Usage*?
*Afterburner usage wise.

Q. Self Protection Jammer (SPJ) - is it embedded or Pod?

I asked these questions on the Pakistan Air Force Thread, but couldn't get an answer (especially relating to the SPJ)
 
Bro South Korean air force does not have 180 F-16C/D. The real number is 118 F-16. 49D variants are used for training. So total is F-16 is 167.

To give you the exact number of 3G generation combat jets of ROKAF:

118 F-16
59 F-15k
60 FA-50
Total: 237 3G fighers

Did you just count out the D varient because somehow it's for Training and is not capable of going into real combat?

You must be pretty naive to believe that
The D varients aren't toothless
They can carry out combat activity as effectively as the single seat versions
 
Concerning the differences between the Batch 07 and previous batches some interesting Tweets have been posted and even if there are some undeniable differences, the comparison to a Batch 02 J-10C is off, since it was in fact the first production batch.
So, what do you think?

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It was the headline back in Aug/Sept 2021...
Looks fancy but this is still a sub-stealth fighter, about Gen. 4.75.
CAC need to develop a fully stealth Gen. 5 fighter based on WS-15 advanced engine.
It's reasonable that a high BPR version of WS-15(like F-135) can achieve 18 ton+ thrust, which can support a 30t MTOW fighter, similar as F35C.
 

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