Chengdu J-10 Multirole Fighter Air Craft News & Discussions

[truepakistani17]

well if you can not say mention gripen in the league of rafale and or EF the it must also be noted that the J10 even the earlierJ10-A variant is also not as low as F16 blk 30/40. it aslo is superior to these mentioned blocks of F16. we can check the specs of these two planes and J10 A sounds to be the better one as it is a new designed plane keeping in view the modren warfare tactics. as for the J10B it surely is going to be a much superior plane is it actually comes out with all that is promised of it..

thanks

 

[Arsalan]

i also agree with you MR. Pakistani. although i dont feel it is that simple to compare fighter jets but yes the J10 A seem to be more then a match to F16 blk30/40. also the specs of J10B showcase the plane to be superior to F16 blk 52.

regards!

 

[Windjammer]

Guys, i am not sure if these have been posted before, but it's looking good.



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[Kompromat]

Can someone explain this


Pak to buy 14 Chinese fighter jets, 114 more may come

Agencies Tags : Pakistan, China, J-10 fighter jets Posted: Wednesday, Nov 11, 2009 at 1340 hrs Islamabad:


In a major move to boost its air warfare capability, Pakistan is to purchase 36 J-10 fighter aircraft from China in a deal worth more than USD 1.4 billion, with options open for induction of more similar aircraft.

China will supply the 36 J-10 fighter jets, enough to equip two squadrons, under a preliminary agreement that could lead to "more sales", a Pakistani official has said. Pakistan might buy "larger numbers" of the multi-role aircraft in the future but has not signed any deal to purchase as many as 150 jets, the official told the Financial Times.

The J-10 or Jian 10 is China's most advanced combat aircraft and is the third generation fighter comparable to American F-16 Fighting Falcons. Islamabad and Beijing are also collaborating to build an advanced fighter -- JF-17 or "Thunder" and the first of these aircraft are expected to roll out by the end of this month, air force chief Air Chief Marshal Rao Qamar Suleman said recently.

Defence experts have described Pakistan's agreement with China to buy the J-10 jets as a "landmark event" in the defence relationship between the two countries.

"This agreement should not simply be seen in the narrow context of Pakistan's relations with China," said Abdul Qayyum, a retired Pakistani general.

"There is a wider dimension. By sharing its advanced technology with Pakistan, China is... also saying to the world that its defence capability is growing rapidly," he said.

 

[SBD-3]

well nothing clear about 114 more

 

[Rank]

Its impossible for PAF to go for 100 J10 A or B because without any test without any proper checking of this Aircraft in Pakistan How PAF go for 100 J10 ??? No battle result no operation result!

 

[SBD-3]

Its impossible for PAF to go for 100 J10 A or B because without any test without any proper checking of this Aircraft in Pakistan How PAF go for 100 J10 ??? No battle result no operation result!

Obviously PAF will only go for More J-10s if they meets or exceeds PAF's Requirements. Any fallback plans for PAF (Att! millitary professionals)

 

[TaimiKhan]

Guys, PAF will go for more FC-20s, don't worry and will meet our criteria also.

Point to consider here is MONEY. PAF has not so much resources at its disposal.

We are inducting Saab 2000 AEW&C, Chinese AEW&C, plan for 250 JF-17s, MBDA's SAM system, radars, precision guided weapons, FC-20s, modernization of F-16s to take place, up gradation of infrastructure happenings, as more assets come in, operational costs go up also, the new SSW formation being raised which needs money too for all its requirements, so when you have all such plans happening at the same time, they need money, alot of money.

So lets just wait, by 2014-15, many of these programs would be completed and then PAF can order more of the FC-20s or something more better if by then Chinese induct it as more fiscal room would be available to PAF.

 

[Wingman]

Guys, PAF will go for more FC-20s, don't worry and will meet our criteria also.

Point to consider here is MONEY. PAF has not so much resources at its disposal.

We are inducting Saab 2000 AEW&C, Chinese AEW&C, plan for 250 JF-17s, MBDA's SAM system, radars, precision guided weapons, FC-20s, modernization of F-16s to take place, up gradation of infrastructure happenings, as more assets come in, operational costs go up also, the new SSW formation being raised which needs money too for all its requirements, so when you have all such plans happening at the same time, they need money, alot of money.

So lets just wait, by 2014-15, many of these programs would be completed and then PAF can order more of the FC-20s or something more better if by then Chinese induct it as more fiscal room would be available to PAF.

I agree with you TK, PAF is heading towards modernization, with self produced JF-17s and Saab 2000 AEW&C, Chinese AEW&C. I think by 2015, PAF will have at least half a dozen squadron of FC-20s

 

[Arsalan]

Its impossible for PAF to go for 100 J10 A or B because without any test without any proper checking of this Aircraft in Pakistan How PAF go for 100 J10 ??? No battle result no operation result!

that is what is said in the report dear. it talks about 114 aircraft that will follow the initial deleivery. this measn that once PAF have evaluated the aircraft it may well place follow orders and that is sure to happen, however i am not certain about the numbers mentioned in this report.,

regards!

 

[conworldus]

that is what is said in the report dear. it talks about 114 aircraft that will follow the initial deleivery. this measn that once PAF have evaluated the aircraft it may well place follow orders and that is sure to happen, however i am not certain about the numbers mentioned in this report.,

regards!

If Chengdu opens up 2 additional production line specifically for Pakistan, it can produce 4 J-10s for Pakistan every month, so 48 per year... It will take about 3 years to complete all the orders. However, Pakistan may too get a production line...

 

[MastanKhan]

Hi,

There is too much technology coming in alongwith the hardware----it will be too much for pak air force to abosrb all that, in such a short time of 5---8 years.

 

[fatman17]

^^^where are you guys getting these figures - the PAF's approved budget for front-line a/c is 20-22 sqdns. beyond this the PAF would need to increase its number of personnel and build new infrastructure. i dont see that happening.

6 sqdns of F-16s
9-10 sqdns of JF-17s
2 sqdns of FC-20s
2 sqdn each of the Mirage Rose and F-7PG is the short to near-term ASR requirement. ~354 a/c and not all available at any one time due to overhauls and maintenance.
PAF is a medium-sized airforce and will remain so, with improvements in thequality and sophistication of its assets as the key not quantity. it has always been this way!!!

 

[Zhukov]

Yes, or the number could be up to 50!

Its Actually 100 For Pakistan Bro

 

[PakShaheen79]

^^^where are you guys getting these figures - the PAF's approved budget for front-line a/c is 20-22 sqdns. beyond this the PAF would need to increase its number of personnel and build new infrastructure. i dont see that happening.

6 sqdns of F-16s
9-10 sqdns of JF-17s
2 sqdns of FC-20s
2 sqdn each of the Mirage Rose and F-7PG is the short to near-term ASR requirement. ~354 a/c and not all available at any one time due to overhauls and maintenance.
PAF is a medium-sized airforce and will remain so, with improvements in thequality and sophistication of its assets as the key not quantity. it has always been this way!!!

Yeah at present that seems the case but with the pace India is builiding its AF i will not surprise if PAF decide to raise some new squadrons i.e. get more budget.