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SYED MUDASSIR ALI SHAH — UPDATED about 5 hours ago

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The writer is a Kabul-based Pakistani journalist.

INDIA and Iran concluded a long-awaited port deal in Tehran on Wednesday, lending a big boost to efforts for promoting regional trade. The Chabahar port near the Iranian border with Balochistan reflects Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s keen interest in forging robust trade links with Central Asia, including landlocked Afghanistan.

In 2003, the two sides had agreed to execute the project, bypassing Pakistan, but the venture made slow progress due to Western curbs on Iran over its controversial nuclear programme. The port’s expansion is expected to whittle down transport costs and cut freight time from India to Central Asia and the Persian Gulf.

Chabahar provides India an easier land-sea route to Afghanistan, where it has fostered close security cooperation and economic interests over the years. New Delhi has already spent $100 million on building a 220-kilometre road in the Nimroz province of Afghanistan. The road will be extended to Chabahar.

Chabahar provides India an easier land-sea route to Afghanistan.
Afghanistan is expected to sign a tripartite transit trade agreement on using the port as an alternative route, which could jack up bilateral trade to $3 billion from $700-800 million.

The project’s strategic nature is illustrated by its location along the coast from the Chinese-funded Gwadar port in Balochistan. Noting the prospect of sanctions on Iran being lifted or eased, India plans to fast-track the plan.

Read: India to sign port deal with Iran, ignoring US warning against haste

Modi’s sense of urgency in concluding trade pacts with Iran and other Persian Gulf nations is apparently driven by Chinese President Xi Jinping’s signing of $46bn energy and infrastructure development agreements with Pakistan last month.

During his daylong visit to Tehran, India’s shipping minister inked with his Iranian counterpart Abbas Ahmad Akhoundi a memorandum of understanding on developing the port on the Gulf of Oman. Both sides overruled America’s call for India and other countries not to rush into doing business with Iran. The US has expressed its concern that India is moving too fast and could undermine the sanctions regime.

After a commercial accord is reached on implementing the pact, Indian firms will, according to the Indian government, “lease two existing berths at the port and operationalise them as container and multi-purpose cargo terminals”, providing Afghanistan with access to the sea and reducing its substantial reliance on Pakistan.

The signing ceremony came on the heels of a warning from the US ambassador to India, who said countries engaging with Iran must wait for the outcome of Tehran’s discussions with the P5+1 group — the US, Russia, China, France, Britain and Germany.

With the next round of talks scheduled for May 12 at Geneva, the European Union and the rest of the partners will join the negotiations three days later. As the negotiators seek to wrap up the process by June 30, there is cautious optimism of a breakthrough.

For its part, the Modi administration insists the development of the port in no way violates sanctions and that it is not bound to enforce Washington’s decisions. The port will enable Iran to open up to the Western world once the sanctions are lifted. India had also expressed its interest in developing a key oilfield, but Iran refused to give it gas marketing rights.

Also read: The cup and the lip

During the government of ex-premier Atal Behari Vajpayee, India slashed oil imports from Iran, a move that left the two countries running into rough weather. The situation worsened in 2014 when Iran hiked import duty on Indian rice from 10pc to 45pc, worrying traders and farmers from Punjab, Haryana and UP.

While eyeing a larger role in Western Asia, Delhi’s regional diplomatic status will see a huge surge with the development of the port. Iran, meanwhile, wants India to help create a free trade zone near Chabahar, some 70km from Gwadar where the Chinese Overseas Ports Holding Company has agreed to help Pakistan establish a free economic zone.

Islamabad’s constant refusal to provide a land route for Indian shipments to Afghanistan via Wagah has frustrated Delhi’s efforts to engage with Kabul economically and strategically. India has pledged $100m for laying railway lines connecting Afghanistan with Central Asia.

In order to ensure the launch of trade activities at Chabahar, India may enter into discussions with the US for seeking a sanctions waiver. Once the nuclear deal is sealed, New Delhi will invest $85m in the purchase of equipment to set up and run a container terminal and a multi-purpose berth at the port, whose operation is estimated to cost India $22.95m annually.

Officially designated as a free trade and industrial zone by the Iranian government, Chabahar has acquired increased significance in terms of an international trade hub. Poised to connect business growth centres in South Asia, the Middle East and Afghanistan, the free trade area is being connected to Iran’s main rail network.

The writer is a Kabul-based Pakistani journalist.

Published in Dawn, May 10th, 2015
 
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Nice to see the comparisions flowing now. Some days back Gwadar was the best project in the world coz of Chinese investment and Chabahar was a no competition for some in here.

I am more interested to see how in future USA, Russia, Iran, India join hands to make Chabahar one of the biggest ports in the world. China factor has infact played in favor of Iran.
 
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SYED MUDASSIR ALI SHAH — UPDATED about 5 hours ago

554e5744a04e8.jpg

The writer is a Kabul-based Pakistani journalist.

INDIA and Iran concluded a long-awaited port deal in Tehran on Wednesday, lending a big boost to efforts for promoting regional trade. The Chabahar port near the Iranian border with Balochistan reflects Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s keen interest in forging robust trade links with Central Asia, including landlocked Afghanistan.

In 2003, the two sides had agreed to execute the project, bypassing Pakistan, but the venture made slow progress due to Western curbs on Iran over its controversial nuclear programme. The port’s expansion is expected to whittle down transport costs and cut freight time from India to Central Asia and the Persian Gulf.

Chabahar provides India an easier land-sea route to Afghanistan, where it has fostered close security cooperation and economic interests over the years. New Delhi has already spent $100 million on building a 220-kilometre road in the Nimroz province of Afghanistan. The road will be extended to Chabahar.

Chabahar provides India an easier land-sea route to Afghanistan.
Afghanistan is expected to sign a tripartite transit trade agreement on using the port as an alternative route, which could jack up bilateral trade to $3 billion from $700-800 million.

The project’s strategic nature is illustrated by its location along the coast from the Chinese-funded Gwadar port in Balochistan. Noting the prospect of sanctions on Iran being lifted or eased, India plans to fast-track the plan.

Read: India to sign port deal with Iran, ignoring US warning against haste

Modi’s sense of urgency in concluding trade pacts with Iran and other Persian Gulf nations is apparently driven by Chinese President Xi Jinping’s signing of $46bn energy and infrastructure development agreements with Pakistan last month.

During his daylong visit to Tehran, India’s shipping minister inked with his Iranian counterpart Abbas Ahmad Akhoundi a memorandum of understanding on developing the port on the Gulf of Oman. Both sides overruled America’s call for India and other countries not to rush into doing business with Iran. The US has expressed its concern that India is moving too fast and could undermine the sanctions regime.

After a commercial accord is reached on implementing the pact, Indian firms will, according to the Indian government, “lease two existing berths at the port and operationalise them as container and multi-purpose cargo terminals”, providing Afghanistan with access to the sea and reducing its substantial reliance on Pakistan.

The signing ceremony came on the heels of a warning from the US ambassador to India, who said countries engaging with Iran must wait for the outcome of Tehran’s discussions with the P5+1 group — the US, Russia, China, France, Britain and Germany.

With the next round of talks scheduled for May 12 at Geneva, the European Union and the rest of the partners will join the negotiations three days later. As the negotiators seek to wrap up the process by June 30, there is cautious optimism of a breakthrough.

For its part, the Modi administration insists the development of the port in no way violates sanctions and that it is not bound to enforce Washington’s decisions. The port will enable Iran to open up to the Western world once the sanctions are lifted. India had also expressed its interest in developing a key oilfield, but Iran refused to give it gas marketing rights.

Also read: The cup and the lip

During the government of ex-premier Atal Behari Vajpayee, India slashed oil imports from Iran, a move that left the two countries running into rough weather. The situation worsened in 2014 when Iran hiked import duty on Indian rice from 10pc to 45pc, worrying traders and farmers from Punjab, Haryana and UP.

While eyeing a larger role in Western Asia, Delhi’s regional diplomatic status will see a huge surge with the development of the port. Iran, meanwhile, wants India to help create a free trade zone near Chabahar, some 70km from Gwadar where the Chinese Overseas Ports Holding Company has agreed to help Pakistan establish a free economic zone.

Islamabad’s constant refusal to provide a land route for Indian shipments to Afghanistan via Wagah has frustrated Delhi’s efforts to engage with Kabul economically and strategically. India has pledged $100m for laying railway lines connecting Afghanistan with Central Asia.

In order to ensure the launch of trade activities at Chabahar, India may enter into discussions with the US for seeking a sanctions waiver. Once the nuclear deal is sealed, New Delhi will invest $85m in the purchase of equipment to set up and run a container terminal and a multi-purpose berth at the port, whose operation is estimated to cost India $22.95m annually.

Officially designated as a free trade and industrial zone by the Iranian government, Chabahar has acquired increased significance in terms of an international trade hub. Poised to connect business growth centres in South Asia, the Middle East and Afghanistan, the free trade area is being connected to Iran’s main rail network.

The writer is a Kabul-based Pakistani journalist.

Published in Dawn, May 10th, 2015
 
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India's new Chabahar port deal with Iran will become a hub of economic activity which will grant India economic access to Russia, Central Asia and Afghanistan, Iranian analyst and vice-president of the Iran and Eurasia Research Center (IRAS) Mandana Tishyar told Sputnik.

India signed a memorandum of understanding with Iran on Wednesday which would allow it to build a port in Iran. The agreement took place despite US warnings against deals with Iran before the nuclear agreement is reached before the deadline on June 30.

"This memorandum was signed by the two countries' governments and not individual companies, so this project will be completed. The design and development of this port are not in the list of entities which fell under Western sanctions," Tishyar told Sputnik.

According to Tishyar, the port will benefit not only Iran, but also the entire region as part of Russia, India and Iran's "North-South" transport corridor project. The project is parallel to China's East-West Silk Road.
 
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I am more interested to see how in future USA, Russia, Iran, India join hands to make Chabahar one of the biggest ports in the world. China factor has infact played in favor of Iran.

Nobody will trust goods going through Afghanistan. Indians will go for it, you don't have an option but to expect Uncle Sam to join in? :rofl: Stop daydreaming.
 
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Nobody will trust goods going through Afghanistan. Indians will go for it, you don't have an option but to expect Uncle Sam to join in? :rofl: Stop daydreaming.
Dude. Thats what the plan between Russia, India and Iran was. Plz do some research about the beneficiaries of Chabahar port project. Then we will talk.

And ya, daydreaming can be done when facts are known and understood. Unlike u. :)
 
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@syedali73 bahi what do u think Of two ports' comparison. Article writer seems to have been paid to write this promotional sort of piece.chahbahar afghaistan Route doesnt look feasible for india.
 
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@syedali73 bahi what do u think Of two ports' comparison. Article writer seems to have been paid to write this promotional sort of piece.chahbahar afghaistan Route doesnt look feasible for india.
what made you think that Route is not feasible for india
 
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Like Emmie said, it is not an article but a news.


Lolz,ali bahi wadda jawa ditta.
Acha my purpose was that whether its a news or article, its aim is to promote chahbahar port. doesnt look like things are going to be so rosy for india as they are projecting in this piece.

what made you think that Route is not feasible for india
Very long. Goes thru afg talibs held region. That iranian province sistan itself has insurgency...
 
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Lolz,ali bahi wadda jawa ditta.
Acha my purpose was that whether its a news or article, its aim is to promote chahbahar port. doesnt look like things are going to be so rosy for india as they are projecting in this piece.
Chah bahar is not as much about trade, it is more about encircling Pakistan. I hope Pakistan is aware about the game. Though there is no shortage of optimistic Pakistanis who consider Iran as Pakistan's friend, which in my opinion she is anything but.
 
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@syedali73 bahi what do u think Of two ports' comparison. Article writer seems to have been paid to write this promotional sort of piece.chahbahar afghaistan Route doesnt look feasible for india.
lol and we spent 120 million. Without taking your advice ...
 
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Chah bahar is not as much about trade, it is more about encircling Pakistan. I hope Pakistan is aware about the game. Though there is no shortage of optimistic Pakistan who consider Iran as Pakistan's friend, which in my opinion she is everything but.
Yes. looks quite like that. Warna india ki financial state dekh kay idont think they can sustain trade via such route for long.
 
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Only time will tell which attracts more business! There are too many players in this game. Let's not start cracking fortunate cookies yet.
 
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