Chabahar, Gwadar to be sister ports, says PM

[simple Brain]

Chabahar, Gwadar to be sister ports, says PM

October 30, 2015

ISLAMABAD: Secretary Supreme National Security Council (SNSC) of Iran Rear Admiral Ali Shamkhani on Thursday called on Prime Minister Muhammad Nawaz Sharif at the PM House.

Matters of mutual interest were discussed during the meeting. Both sides expressed grief and sorrow over the tragic incident of Mina in which citizens of both the countries had passed away.

The premier said that Pakistan and Iran were brotherly countries and shared deep historic and cultural ties. He added that Chabahar and Gwadar ports would be joint sister ports and their operational activity shall complement each other.

He further said that Pakistan had rendered invaluable sacrifices in the war against terrorism and the Operation Zarb-e-Azb was yielding very positive and fruitful results.

Iranian National Security Secretary Ali said that terrorism had no boundaries and it was a common enemy of both the countries, and a stable Afghanistan was in the best interest of both Iran and Pakistan.

He further said that there was a lot of scope in enhancing economic and communication areas between the two countries. He said that Pakistan and Iran would establish fibre optic link between them.

- See more at: Chabahar, Gwadar to be sister ports, says PM | Top Story | thenews.com.pk

 

[Viper0011.]

Chabahar, Gwadar to be sister ports, says PM

The premier said that Pakistan and Iran were brotherly countries and shared deep historic and cultural ties. He added that Chabahar and Gwadar ports would be joint sister ports and their operational activity shall complement each other.

NS is a great diplomat. Courting Iran out of the Indian influence. Watch my words, Chahabar port will become a part of the extended CPEC and the Indian influence in Iran will be neutralized by massive trade Iran could do through China and CPEC. The writing is on the wall. This is why Pakistan didn't want to join the KSA in fighting Iran directly. Excellent diplomacy.

India, sooner or later, will have no leverage and will be forced (internally through her business community) to join the CPEC. Modi has started to realize this. "A positive change should be adapted as it comes, and with an open mind,or it will be forced upon you for adaption" (Jack Welch, Previous Chairman and the CEO of General Electric)

 

[rockstar08]

Chahabhar port will be used against Pakistan's Province of Baluchistan to promote the independence moment , funding of terrorist like BLA and BRA ..

 

[simple Brain]

NS is a great diplomat. Courting Iran out of the Indian influence. Watch my words, Chahabar port will become a part of the extended CPEC and the Indian influence in Iran will be neutralized by massive trade Iran could do through China and CPEC. The writing is on the wall. This is why Pakistan didn't want to join the KSA in fighting Iran directly. Excellent diplomacy.

India, sooner or later, will have no leverage and will be forced (internally through her business community) to join the CPEC. Modi has started to realize this. "A positive change should be adapted as it comes, and with an open mind,or it will be forced upon you for adaption" (Jack Welch, Previous Chairman and the CEO of General Electric)

I agree with you that this will be a game changer for not only Pakistan and Iran but for Afghanistan, China and rest of the central asian Countries. However, I wouldn't give any credit to Nawaz Sharif being a Prime Minister and a sole hand behind this achievement. All credit goes to China's and our Military leadership and diplomacy. Nawaz Sharif was hanging way too much towards India and off a sudden we heard this news. I loved it, and it will be great for the entire region.

Chahabhar port will be used against Pakistan's Province of Baluchistan to promote the independence moment , funding of terrorist like BLA and BRA ..

We have an open border along with Iran and Afghanistan, we hardly have had any issues from Iranian side of the border, infect we do not have any forces out their to cover that part. The BLA and BRA terrorist that you have mentioned are being funded by the Indians and few of our other brotherly Countries, that I do not want to mention right now, who operate through Afghanistan, Get your facts right.

 

[Viper0011.]

I agree with you that this will be a game changer for not only Pakistan and Iran but for Afghanistan, China and rest of the central asian Countries. However, I wouldn't give any credit to Nawaz Sharif being a Prime Minister and a sole hand behind this achievement. All credit goes to China's and our Military leadership and diplomacy. Nawaz Sharif was hanging way too much towards India and off a sudden we heard this news. I loved it, and it will be great for the entire region..

Its amazing how LITTLE you guys really know about the real life. A diplomatic, statesman's vision at works.....and the credit goes to China? Who brought the Chinese in the first place . It was NS's government. And where were the SAME Chinese when Mushy and Zia and Kiyani were COAS's???? They didn't want to drop a DIME in Pakistan then. Let alone $ 40+ billions worth of investment. No civil and rich country would want to invest into ANY country with military rules, dictatorships or even political turmoil.

Where were the Russian investments, the Indian PM's show of friendship through the visit, the Sri Lankan relationship, the improved Pakistan -US relationships in military's time? How come Russia didn't invest a dollar into Mushy's time in Pakistan?

For those of you, who live in a fool's paradise, the military has nothing to do with these civilian deals. The "diplomacy" you referred to, is created BY the Civilian government. Not an angel from up above, or a few star general from the GHQ!! Also, the military doesn't want to be involved with politics. This has been reaffirmed by Gen. RS. So PLEASE, let a respectable institute do what they do the best. The ONLY military involvement is during the time of tension with India. Otherwise, the military wants peace with India. The time to be a macho-man military is over. Allow a country's elected leadership to do the things the people will hold them responsible for (for once in Pakistan's lifetime). There are CLEAR examples of progress, even on the diplomatic front I've outlined above!

Its pretty clear there are many in Pakistan, who put their own personal preferences and agendas above the entire country's national interests. Just like the post above!! Sad to see this crap being written without common sense or logic.

Chahabhar port will be used against Pakistan's Province of Baluchistan to promote the independence moment , funding of terrorist like BLA and BRA ..

Not going to happen. Pakistani Army has locked down Baluchistan and have clearly identified ALL terrorist leaders and they are being monitored.

On the contrary, Iran is being countered with billions of electric and gas selling deals to Pakistan. Plus hundreds of billions of trade benefits through China, going ALL the way to Europe by road. The Iranians are smart people, they can have "some" billions worth of Indian trade, or hundreds of billions worth of benefits with China......you take a guess where they'll go .

The times have changed. Now, the new "best friend country" is the one that gives you the most trade benefits. Welcome to 2016 !!

 

[deckingraj]

NS is a great diplomat. Courting Iran out of the Indian influence. Watch my words, Chahabar port will become a part of the extended CPEC and the Indian influence in Iran will be neutralized by massive trade Iran could do through China and CPEC. The writing is on the wall. This is why Pakistan didn't want to join the KSA in fighting Iran directly. Excellent diplomacy.

Interesting to know that Iran is under India's influence...not sure what Iranian friends have to say on this....

India, sooner or later, will have no leverage and will be forced (internally through her business community) to join the CPEC. Modi has started to realize this. "A positive change should be adapted as it comes, and with an open mind,or it will be forced upon you for adaption" (Jack Welch, Previous Chairman and the CEO of General Electric)

You will force us to join CPEC...sure..why not...You guys are not giving us Land access to AF....heck you guys can't even give us a benign MFN status that every second country gives to each other however you will certainly force us to join CPEC....

 

[The BrOkEn HeArT]

Its amazing how LITTLE you guys you really know about the real life. A diplomatic, statesman's vision at works.....and the credit goes to China? Who brought the Chinese in the first place . It was NS's government. And where were the SAME Chinese when Mushy and Zia and Kiyani were COAS's???? They didn't want to drop a DIME in Pakistan then. Let alone $ 40+ billions worth of investment. No civil and rich country would want to invest into ANY country with military rules, dictatorships or even political turmoil.

Where were the Russian investments, the Indian PM's show of friendship through the visit, the Sri Lankan relationship, the improved Pakistan -US relationships in military's time? How come Russia didn't invest a dollar into Mushy's time in Pakistan?

For those of you, who live in a fool's paradise, the military has nothing to do with these civilian deals. The "diplomacy" you referred to, is created BY the Civilian government. Not an angel from up above, or a few star general from the GHQ!! Also, the military doesn't want to be involved with politics. This has been reaffirmed by Gen. RS. So PLEASE, let a respectable institute do what they do the best. The ONLY military involvement is during the time of tension with India. Otherwise, the military wants peace with India. The time to be a macho-man military is over. Allow a country's elected leadership to do the things the people will hold them responsible for (for once in Pakistan's lifetime). There are CLEAR examples of progress, even on the diplomatic front I've outlined above!

Its pretty clear there are many in Pakistan, who put their own personal preferences and agendas above the entire country's national interests. Just like the post above!! Sad to see this crap being written without common sense or logic.



Not going to happen. Pakistani Army has locked down Baluchistan and have clearly identified ALL terrorist leaders and they are being monitored.

On the contrary, Iran is being countered with billions of electric and gas selling deals to Pakistan. Plus hundreds of billions of trade benefits through China, going ALL the way to Europe by road. The Iranians are smart people, they can have "some" billions worth of Indian trade, or hundreds of billions worth of benefits with China......you take a guess where they'll go .

The times have changed. Now, the new "best friend country" is the one that gives you the most trade benefits. Welcome to 2016 !!

Simply Chabahar is an India's strategic port and Gwadar is a China's strategic port. Don't make it complicated. Pakistan is just a face , not the game. You just can take some trade profit through this, that's it.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Simply Chabahar is an India's strategic port and Gwadar is a China's strategic port. Don't make it complicated. Pakistan is just a face , not the game. You just can take some trade profit through this, that's it.

Gwadar is part of 46+ billion dollar CPEC + one road one belt project.. It will connect the entire region from China-Afghanistan to Central Asia .. Even Iran is interested in that...

Chabahar is just an Iranian port being built by india ..(which still begs Pak for routes to Afghanistan)..

Heck even Iran now wants China in Chabahar project..

http://www.presstv.com/Detail/2015/10/08/432508/Iran-wants-China-in-Chabahar-development

Another thing.. The future of Chabahar still depends on geopolitics and future..

 

[The BrOkEn HeArT]

Gwadar is part of 46+ billion dollar CPEC + one road one belt project.. It will connect the entire region from China-Afghanistan to Central Asia .. Even Iran is interested in that...

Chabahar is just an Iranian port being built by india ..(which still begs Pak for routes to Afghanistan)..

Heck even Iran now wants China in Chabahar project..

http://www.presstv.com/Detail/2015/10/08/432508/Iran-wants-China-in-Chabahar-development

Another thing.. The future of Chabahar still depends on geopolitics and future..

We are talking about chabahar and Gwader only, not the whole CPEC. Is China gonna invest the whole $46 billion doller on Gawader only???

 

[naveen mishra]

Chabahar, Gwadar to be sister ports, says PM

October 30, 2015

ISLAMABAD: Secretary Supreme National Security Council (SNSC) of Iran Rear Admiral Ali Shamkhani on Thursday called on Prime Minister Muhammad Nawaz Sharif at the PM House.

Matters of mutual interest were discussed during the meeting. Both sides expressed grief and sorrow over the tragic incident of Mina in which citizens of both the countries had passed away.

The premier said that Pakistan and Iran were brotherly countries and shared deep historic and cultural ties. He added that Chabahar and Gwadar ports would be joint sister ports and their operational activity shall complement each other.

He further said that Pakistan had rendered invaluable sacrifices in the war against terrorism and the Operation Zarb-e-Azb was yielding very positive and fruitful results.

Iranian National Security Secretary Ali said that terrorism had no boundaries and it was a common enemy of both the countries, and a stable Afghanistan was in the best interest of both Iran and Pakistan.

He further said that there was a lot of scope in enhancing economic and communication areas between the two countries. He said that Pakistan and Iran would establish fibre optic link between them.

- See more at: Chabahar, Gwadar to be sister ports, says PM | Top Story | thenews.com.pk

what ever be, but the fact is positive statement and brother hood,spread positive ,and good feeling ,hardly matter India will loose or gain ,strategic economical battle,is much better than proxy war ,

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

We are talking about chabahar and Gwader only, not the whole CPEC. Is China gonna invest the whole $46 billion doller on Gawader only???

Damn you are stupid...

 

[The BrOkEn HeArT]

Damn you are stupid...

Yes I'm, but not more than you. You won

 

[atomix]

Saudis are certainly not going to sit quiet watching Iran grow stronger using CPEC. Pakistan certainly will be used as a recruitment base for anti-shia terrorists against Iran.

 

[Viper0011.]

I You will force us to join CPEC...sure..why not...You guys are not giving us Land access to AF....heck you guys can't even give us a benign MFN status that every second country gives to each other however you will certainly force us to join CPEC....

I won't ask you to join or do shiit. This CPEC situation will. Just because I wrote the post in a truthful context, doesn't mean I am now an Iranian, Pakistani or a Chinese. You should read carefully before putting the author in the mix.

And your Indian businessmen want to connect through the CPEC. Who forced Modi to go to Pakistan? The same businessmen, will use their influence on the Indian government and will push hard to join the CPEC. Otherwise, Chinese products and services will be flowing through so many countries like flying Birds. And India wants to turn these Asian countries into African countries (from an Indian labor and trade's point of view). I think its a great development, the days of wars should be a history now. The days of economic competition and where more growth is for all countries, will be the main focus of the globe.

 

[simple Brain]

You will force us to join CPEC...sure..why not...You guys are not giving us Land access to AF....heck you guys can't even give us a benign MFN status that every second country gives to each other however you will certainly force us to join CPEC....

We are not forcing you guys to join us on CPEC, infect if you guys do not join at all, that will be the probably most significant move from Pakistan. But as it is not our way to paralyze and block other Countries economically, socially and Politically, once we will see that you guys have given up with your idiotic future planing i-e Akhand Bharat than we might will be able to sit down for a talks. Apparently, our PM was way to in rush to straightened the relations with you guys, but since the Pathankot drama created by the the Super man Ajit Doval, we are back to same diplomacy where we were, and that was and is not to let India spoil this region's peace.

Its amazing how LITTLE you guys really know about the real life. A diplomatic, statesman's vision at works.....and the credit goes to China? Who brought the Chinese in the first place . It was NS's government. And where were the SAME Chinese when Mushy and Zia and Kiyani were COAS's????

Nawaz Sharif did not organised all of this, it started and planed back in 2008 that the Gawadar port will be handed over to China, and it was officially handed over in Feb 2013. As far as Chinese President visit to Pakistan is concerned in NS time, and that he announced 46 Billion dollar investement, it was planed back in 2009 that China will invest a huge amount of money in Pakistan.

Gwadar Port handed over to China - The Express Tribune

And please read this one you will get the Idea that when this CPEC was proposed and when was it finalized. China simply did not started it back in 2008 till 2013 because the Political leadership wasnt trust worthy back than. And the work is going slow even now, because they do not completely trust NS and company either. We all know the credability of Chinese workers if they try to build something fast, they do it. So why are they taking so long in CPEC? Think about it!!

China Three Gorges plans $15b investment in Pakistan | Pakistan Today This is old News.

And this one same thing same planing but new news.
China firm offers $50b for hydro projects - The Express Tribune