Can PAF knock Out Green Pines in War

[maverick2009]

The link below suggests Israeli powerful radar green pine and 3 command centres are built and located in Kashmir.

A short travelling time for PAF or missle strike

Can they be knocked out.

Or is there tracking range of 500km too powerful

DEBKAfile - India Deploys Israeli Hi-Tech War Equipment in War Preparations

 

[CanadianPad]

MAR-1 seeker can scan upto 500km but its range is not that much. Its possible. Mountain terrain always help.Either shut down the radar or eat the MAR.
This could be a SSG mission as well.

 

[Keysersoze]

Well stick some HARM seekers on some Baburs and send them out. cheap and cheerful....Or get intel of where they are and pepper the place. Job done.

 

[sms]

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I not sure that Babur or HARM can do this job. First one can be knocked out by SAMs to launch other you need to be in range to fire and you'll find IAF more than ready.

Possible to do it by SRBM or a covert ops (SSG) to knock these out. If you get lucky

 

[Keysersoze]

^^
I not sure that Babur or HARM can do this job. First one can be knocked out by SAMs to launch other you need to be in range to fire and you'll find IAF more than ready.

Possible to do it by SRBM or a covert ops (SSG) to knock these out. If you get lucky

Yeah I am sure if enough are fired that you'll get all of them Or How about a combination of all four/five?
But hey If India has I am sure it is invincible and nothing can touch it right?

 

[sms]

Yeah I am sure if enough are fired that you'll get all of them Or How about a combination of all four/five?
But hey If India has I am sure it is invincible and nothing can touch it right?

Not a bad idea mate... good luck, you'll need lot of it

 

[notorious_eagle]

Correct me if i am wrong but isnt Babur designed to avoid radar detection by flowing low hugging the terrain employing high maneuverability. I guess if its designed that way, i am sure it can knock this thing out.

 

[zombie:-)]

Correct me if i am wrong but isnt Babur designed to avoid radar detection by flowing low hugging the terrain employing high maneuverability. I guess if its designed that way, i am sure it can knock this thing out.

terrain hugging flight profile eats lots of fuel and hence reduceing its claimed range

 

[BaburCM]

terrain hugging flight profile eats lots of fuel and hence reduceing its claimed range

Big deal. We are already working on longer range cruise missiles. What are you going to do about that?

 

[BaburCM]

Yeah I am sure if enough are fired that you'll get all of them Or How about a combination of all four/five?
But hey If India has I am sure it is invincible and nothing can touch it right?

LOL these are the same Indians that believe that their anti-ballistic program is the best in the world when even the Americans have serious reservations. Not to be taken seriously... We can surely take out their radars without too much fuss.

 

[nik007]

Firstly, this deployment of radar took place almost a decade back, judging by the date of the article. So its defence must be good by now.

I think the missiles have a better chance of taking them out than the PAF does. Ballistic missiles would be my bet. I would deploy many of them so as to bypass india's BMD.

Did u know Babur can be intercepted? So I would not put a subsonic cruise missile to do the job.

 

[BaburCM]

Firstly, this deployment of radar took place almost a decade back, judging by the date of the article. So its defence must be good by now.

I think the missiles have a better chance of taking them out than the PAF does. Ballistic missiles would be my bet. I would deploy many of them so as to bypass india's BMD.

Did u know Babur can be intercepted? So I would not put a subsonic cruise missile to do the job.

Jeez, what you going on about? Any missile can be intercepted for that matter. What kind of an argument is that? A cruise missile is much more difficult to intercept by the way. The accuracy of a cruise missile is much more suited for such a surgical strike where the error margins are narrow. Add the MAR seeker to the cruise missile and you got a true radar killer.

 

[Screaming Skull]

Here is the green Pine radar.

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Points to note:

1. This is a very very small target for any missile in the world. Cruise missile or otherwise. The Babur is designed to take out targets that span a reasonably large area like Air Force Bases etc.

2. Notice that the radar is mounted on a mobile platform. Hence, the target is not stationary. On the contrary it is highly maneuverable and agile. There is no missile developed in the world yet that can take on maneuverable land targets as small as this.
(Though the chinese claim to have developed an AC destroyer.)

3. Since, the radar is mounted on a moving platform and has a range of around 500 km, it will easily detect any incoming missile long before it reaches anywhere close to it in which time it would have just switched off and moved on.

4. SSG operation! The only option left. Since, the radar has such a high range, it will not be deployed anywhere close to the borders. So a commando operation so deep within India can be literally ruled out.

 

[nik007]

Points to note:

1. This is a very very small target for any missile in the world. Cruise missile or otherwise. The Babur is designed to take out targets that span a reasonably large area like Air Force Bases etc.

2. Notice that the radar is mounted on a mobile platform. Hence, the target is not stationary. On the contrary it is highly maneuverable and agile. There is no missile developed in the world yet that can take on maneuverable land targets as small as this.
(Though the chinese claim to have developed an AC destroyer.)

3. Since, the radar is mounted on a moving platform and has a range of around 500 km, it will easily detect any incoming missile long before it reaches anywhere close to it in which time it would have just switched off and moved on.

4. SSG operation! The only option left. Since, the radar has such a high range, it will not be deployed anywhere close to the borders. So a commando operation so deep within India can be literally ruled out.

Good job man.


I think these points prove that this radar cannot be destroyed that easy.

 

[sms]

LOL these are the same Indians that believe that their anti-ballistic program is the best in the world when even the Americans have serious reservations. Not to be taken seriously... We can surely take out their radars without too much fuss.

It's true that any this can be knocked out and these Radars are not an exception. These can be put out of action with proper planning and right tools.

But if we accept this then there will be nothing left to discuss and whole concept of this forum will die.

These Radar were installed long back and by this time Indian forces has installed enough defenses for different threat perceptions are …….... possible options..
- Air strike - Too much on stake
- Artillery/ MBRL - Long range rockets may be an option but may fall short of range
- Sub Sonic CM - High probability to get intercepted, you may need few of them to do needfull
- SRBM - Highest changes of success and it will be most difficult to intercept. Despite successful trail of BMD by India, deployment Accross India is questionable.
- SSG Ops – Plausible
- System goes off line it self – Since its claimed by some of respected members that Indian forces are below par for maintaining it’s equipments and battle readiness is questionable …

On ligher side ...all of these seems too plain and boring best option will be send to F-7 to attack these sites. Theses will beat $**t out of all front line fighters in IAF including MKI. These will destroy dozens of IAF fighters, attain air supremacy and return base safely after destroying all three stations and making few air base un-operational. Sounds like a song...

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