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Can PAF knock Out Green Pines in War

A mobile ground based radar is never an easy target. As mentioned, you can move it so a pre-launch target is not usually the best option.

However, all radars have a cone-shaped scanning area that provides for lots of "blind spots". Both low-flying fighters and cruise missiles can evade this radar till the last minutes when any action might be too late. And talking about a terrain that is mountainous, its all the more difficult because if you are land based, then you don't have the slightest idea of what is coming behind the next mountain. Of course these radars aren't the only ones and as one would imagine, any armed force will have a network of small and big radars so they can track an incoming cruise missile. Whoever said terrain hugging will reduce range much check what babur cruise missile is...it is a terrain hugging missile and that is included in its range.

Radars are huge emitters of waves and a radar this big is an easy identification for an anti-radiation missile. If you can use a radiation seeker as your terminal guidance, you greatly increase the accuracy to take out suck installations. Also remember that babur cruise missile is capable of deviating mid-way and avoiding defense systems while keeping in check its final target.

Attacking and defensive systems are a constant evolution. one country develops an attacking method, other country finds a defense. First country find another solution, etc. Attacking any installation by either India or Pakistan in each other's territory is not a walk in the park but not un-achievable and it goes both ways. And a nuclear capable cruise missiles can carry enough load (non-nuclear) that even if it lands close enough, that radar will go flying.

So all in all, taking out those radars is quite possible and in my humble opinion cruise missiles are best suited for this job.
 
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Good job man.


I think these points prove that this radar cannot be destroyed that easy.

Not really ......There are a lot of mobile systems thats why you have HARM systems. And if you have to switch it off and move it a lot then it will be OFF right? Allowing PAF to concentrate on other things.;) Also there is the airlaunched variant that would allow the time to target to be reduced.

Size? I would suggest a cluster type munition that would pepper that nicely.

Combine a airstrike with A few cruise missiles and you will have a busy afternoon. After all all you need is one to get through.;)
 
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Not sure what's achieved by such threads.

Anything can be taken out, there's strategy, price, information, luck and god only knows how many other factors that keep changing in the chaos of a battlefield. There's nothing in the world that can't be taken out, but only if a sure fire strategy can be worked by pounding the keypad of our laptops :)

Relax guys, if you have any technical input, i'd love to read it, but more of the same... nay!
 
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Not sure what's achieved by such threads.

Anything can be taken out, there's strategy, price, information, luck and god only knows how many other factors that keep changing in the chaos of a battlefield. There's nothing in the world that can't be taken out, but only if a sure fire strategy can be worked by pounding the keypad of our laptops :)

Relax guys, if you have any technical input, i'd love to read it, but more of the same... nay!
Well I know it allows some venting lol. Better here than on the street I guess lol
 
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Seriously u guies are amazing.

After reading some post of this thread :hitwall:i am also start thinking to
make a guided boot and through it from my cubicle to my previous manager head because of low ratings.

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::crazy::crazy:
 
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Seriously u guies are amazing.

After reading some post of this thread :hitwall:i am also start thinking to
make a guided boot and through it from my cubicle to my previous manager head because of low ratings.

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::crazy::crazy:



Babur has a CEP of 3m.. which is pretty good. and its active seeker kicks in during final flight profile. there is a fair chance it can hit green pine if it is stationary.
 
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Seriously u guies are amazing.

After reading some post of this thread :hitwall:i am also start thinking to
make a guided boot and through it from my cubicle to my previous manager head because of low ratings.

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::crazy::crazy:

If your manager emits radiation then give me a call it should be fairly easy.
 
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Not a bad idea mate... good luck, you'll need lot of it :D:enjoy:

I put my bet on Babur... Loitering around for a few hours. Locate and hit it. The scan is passive. The CM flies low, small and stealthy... You need the luck with a massive torch in the dark... And I think the moment you turn it on we know the exact location... (Vera/Erieye).
 
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Seriously u guies are amazing.

After reading some post of this thread :hitwall:i am also start thinking to
make a guided boot and through it from my cubicle to my previous manager head because of low ratings.

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::crazy::crazy:

You just concentrate on the failed project of yours known by your name. It's truly the pot calling the kettle black.
 
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If the Israeli cannot win from Hizbullah, I doubt India will win from Pakistan...
 
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If the Israeli cannot win from Hizbullah, I doubt India will win from Pakistan...

I dont understand your logic here mate.:what: Hezbullah is non-uniformed and terrorist organization. Pakistan is a country and responsibility to protect it's citizens and cities. I dont understand How you can compate these two to each other?
 
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You just concentrate on the failed project of yours known by your name. It's truly the pot calling the kettle black.

I think DRDO is already doing that. You will see LCA in IAF in large numbers. :devil:
 
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I dont understand your logic here mate.:what: Hezbullah is non-uniformed and terrorist organization. Pakistan is a country and responsibility to protect it's citizens and cities. I dont understand How you can compate these two to each other?

It is your opinion that it is terroristic or not. I know you Indians love Israeli's but concluding who is the terrorist is a bit more complicated then repeating something you probably hear on your propaganda channels...

Let me help you simple mind... What I meant was that the high tech well supported in every way Israel had to handle retreat... Likeways the Indians thought they can handle Pakistan. Purely based on arrogance and being bigger. But that did not mean it is capable. Indian projects are worse case scenario's, Indian politicians harldy know or understand that any war against Pakistan will end up in atleast mutual destruction. Whether you buy one or all the green pines in the world. It doesn't even make difference if you lick every Israeli his Butt...

So, Green pine is nice to have. It will not alter your result. It is an active radar and something that is easy to be destroyed if the opponent has decent artillery, BM or CM... If needed the time to hit will be less then the time to move it. IT doesn't mean Pakistan is superior but it does mean that you Indians will never win. You were shocked after the nukes. Your pants were on the floor when Babur was launched. And you can try to build a tank, LCA or whatever... You do not have the capability to conquer Pakistan. Not with 5 times bigger everything.
 
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IT doesn't mean Pakistan is superior but it does mean that you Indians will never win. You were shocked after the nukes. Your pants were on the floor when Babur was launched. And you can try to build a tank, LCA or whatever... You do not have the capability to conquer Pakistan. Not with 5 times bigger everything.
Honestly, do you really think that India wants to conquer Pakistan? If so why, what would be the benefit and wouldn't India tried it years before all the nukes were in the game?
I have no interest in these blame games, just want to understand why you think so, cause to me there is not a single good reason for it.
It should be clear that in a real war with nukes on both sides there can't be a winner only losers, no matter if it's Pak vs India, or China vs Inidia. But that doesn't mean that we can keep our old arms now and don't have to modernise. That exactly is it what we do with LCA, MRCA... as well as you do with JF 17, or J10. In some fields we are superior, in others you, but at the end it doesn't matter cause no side can really win!

To the topic (which is just another stupid thread to force the blame game!), why should PAF not be able to take them out? We are talking about a radar system not a fighter, or a tank that can defend it self, so it will depent on how good we can defend it with other weapons. As you said it good to have it in the Indian forces, but won't be a wonder weapon that will be the key of victory, or defeat.
 
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