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Tata Nano: ZERO-star safety rating

Maruti Swift: ZERO-star safety rating

Other Indian cars: ZERO-star safety rating

Global NCAP | Crash tests show India’s cars are unsafe

Indian Cars Are Unsafe, Group Says - Business Insider

Indian cars are unsafe, says Global NCAP | Autocar

Unsafe At Any Speed? Global Safety Group Finds Indian Cars Fail Safety Tests

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Fixing India’s Deadly Roads
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Prime Minister Narendra Modi, left, placed a wreath on the coffin of India's minister of rural development, Gopinath Munde, who died in a car accident.Credit Altaf Qadri/Associated Press
NEW DELHI — It often appears that Indian roads are meant for politicians and, since there are not many of those, others get to drive on them, too.

The police turn agile when they get wind of an approaching politician and they shoo away the lesser vehicles, or the burly sidekicks in the convoy do the job. Sometimes the traffic parts or halts altogether to let a leader pass.

Yet Indian roads are so deadly that even politicians are not entirely safe.

Early on the morning of June 3, the Indian minister of rural development, Gopinath Munde, died after his vehicle, which even had a red beacon on it, was hit by a car. He was in the rear seat and, according to Health Minister Harsh Vardhan, he might have survived had he been wearing a seat belt. It is unusual for Indians in the rear seat to wear a belt, even more so to learn from the health minister that it is advisable. That they wear seat belts at all is a recent phenomenon resulting from the traffic police persistently asking for bribes from those who are not so secured.

It was not the first time that Mr. Munde had met with a road accident while traveling in a car that had a red beacon on it. India’s privileged take great care to protect themselves from the many adversities of the nation, but they cannot escape its roads. Several politicians have died in road accidents, including a former president.

According to the National Crime Records Bureau, nearly 140,000 people died in road accidents in India in 2012. The World Health Organization estimates that the actual figure is higher by about 100,000. What is not disputed, though, is that Indian roads are among the most dangerous places on earth. A 10-hour drive through the nation would show a toppled truck here, a smashed car there and a crowd somewhere else shrouding an aftermath.

Driving in India is somewhat like a video game. Mitsuhiko Yamashita, a director of Nissan Motor, once said when I asked him how the Indian driving experience could be improved, “First, separate the humans, the cars and the cattle, please.”

Not so easy, though. That Indians drive on the left is not an absolute truth, but a high probability. And just because the government has drawn white lines on the roads, it does not mean that drivers recognize lanes. Whole families, with two adults and their family-planned two kids, travel on scooters. Then there are trucks with iron rods jutting out, which on occasion impale the windshields of cars. And there are plenty of drunken drivers.

On Monday, when the new government laid out its aspirations, among them was the wish to promote India to the world as a modern, respectable brand. It may have to start with the roads. Nations in plain sight often look better than they really are, but the Indian road lays bare the secrets of the republic. It reveals a nation where there is an overt conflict between law and enforcement, and a triumph of informality over order.

It is not easy to cure the way of the people, but there are areas where the government has enforced the law effectively, transforming old habits.

Taxation, for instance. Although India’s tax collection is not flawless, it has vastly improved over the years, and the government has managed to instill the fear of the law in the citizen and the corporation. Also, in a country whose people spit and urinate just about anywhere, the Delhi Metro rail system is an extraordinary achievement. Through a string of practical measures and high quality service, it has ensured that it is an island republic of cleanliness and order.

But on Indian roads, the government looks like a joke. Its most obvious face, the police, hide in corners like muggers to pounce on erring motorists and extract whatever they can. They ambush drunken drivers, too, but only a fraction of the drunks go to prison. Most pay a bribe and in fact drive away.

And, in the end, when Indians meet with an accident, they exhibit an emotion that is bizarre considering how they drive — they are startled.

Manu Joseph is author of the novel “The Illicit Happiness of Other People.”



India’s roads are among the deadliest in the world. Can new laws tame drivers? - The Washington Post

India’s roads are among the deadliest in the world. Can new laws tame drivers?
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CHENNAI, India — When it opened in 2001, the East Coast Road in southern India gave drivers a smooth, modern link to coastal resorts and an open stretch of highway to gun their engines on weekends.

The 425-mile road also is a glaring example of why, with just 1 percent of the world’s automobiles, India accounts for 15 percent of global traffic deaths, according to the World Bank.

In 2013, there were 174 accidents on the East Coast Road, and 24 people died. So many men from the villages flanking the road have been run over by speeding vehicles and drunk drivers in the past decade that their bereaved wives are called “ECR widows.”

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India has some of the deadliest roads in the world, with more than 200,000 fatalities every year, according to the World Health Organization. The nation’s Supreme Court calls India’s roads “giant killers.” Experts say that many of the accused go free because of weak and outdated motor vehicle regulations, routine corruption, lagging investigations and painfully slow court trials.

rewrotethe proposed legislation to lower the penalties, saying India cannot imitate the developed world. In the most recent revision, the penalty for reckless driving involving the death of a child, for example, was lowered to a $780 fine and a one-year prison term.

“It is not possible to replicate 100 percent of the road safety laws of America, England or Canada in Indian conditions,” Nitin Gadkari, India’s minister of road transport and highways, said in an interview. “We have to look at our local conditions like density of population, road congestion, road quality, socioeconomic profile of our people. I do not want to impose such high penalties that it ruins poor people’s lives.”

As a result, critics say a watered-down version of the Road Transport and Safety Bill, which probably will be introduced in Parliament in July, will do little to improve safety. Punishments for speeding and drunken driving have been reduced, a limit has been set on compensation for accident victims, and the powers of the proposed road safety regulator were shrunk.

This month, some workers unions even urged Gadkari to cancel the mandatory level of education required for getting a driver’s license.

“I want to cut the number of road accident deaths by half by 2019, but it is not easy,” he said. “Some say go, others say stop; some put up obstacles or pull you backward.”

With rising affluence, owning a car in India has become easier. But bad driving habits, poor regulatory oversight and flawed road design are quite common. Speeding, running lights, drunken driving, riding motorcycles without helmets, and lane violations are rampant. According to officials, 25 percent of driver’s licenses in India are procured fraudulently.

“What began as an effort to bring a strong road safety law has slowly turned into a farce,” said Piyush Tewari, founder of SaveLife Foundation, a public advocacy group that works on road safety. “Everybody is lobbying to dilute the law as much as possible. The government has buckled under pressure.”

The truckers union threatened to protest. Automobile manufacturers objected to new vehicle recall rules — even though the best-selling new Indian cars failed a global crash test last year.

“If you keep the penalties high, then it opens the room for negotiations with policemen on the ground and will increase corruption,” said Naveen Gupta, secretary general of All India Motor Transport Congress. “You are opening up a Pandora’s box.”

In one of the most talked about cases, Indians were outraged this month that a court granted bail to Bollywood star Salman Khan as he appeals his conviction for driving over five homeless people sleeping on a sidewalk in Mumbai in 2002, killing one of them. Khan had originally been sentenced to five years in prison.

In Kabali Saravanan’s ECR neighborhood, his family watched the news on TV with horror. His wife, a seamstress, was killed by a speeding car in January while on her daily morning stroll along the edge of the road.

“There is one law for the poor people and another for the rich in this country,” said Saravanan, a rickshaw driver. The driver of the car that killed his wife, he said, was an 18-year-old son of a wealthy leather businessman who lives in a fancy beach house nearby. “What justice can I realistically expect in this country?”

The accused’s family declined to give an interview. Police said they have applied for suspension of the 18-year-old’s driver’s license, but the trial has not begun.

As India tried to bolster inadequate infrastructure by building new highways across rural areas in the past decade, very little money has been invested in driver education, road behavior, emergency response and trauma care. Many new roads do not have medians or reflectors.

The East Coast Road is dotted with weekend holiday hot spots, such as amusement parks, crocodile preserves, ancient coastal temples and beach resorts. On Sundays, biker gangs from the city turn the road into a drag strip.

“The city partygoers think the road belongs to them. They drive as if there are no villages and no people on either side of the road,” said Sumati Ravichandran, 35, an ECR widow in Vada Nemmeli village. Her husband lay there without any help for more than an hour.

Medical experts say that half of those who died in road accidents could have been saved if they were admitted to a hospital in the first hour. Fearing long court cases and police harassment, bystanders often hesitate to help accident victims. Last year, the Supreme Court ordered the government to pass a law to protect good Samaritans who rush accident victims to the hospital. But the government has not delivered.

Saravanan said the courts cannot bring his wife back. And he has little hope for justice.

“They will use every trick they know to keep their son out of jail. But what about my 7-year-old daughter who has been left motherless?” Saravanan said, sitting by his wife’s motionless sewing machine.





 
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A Partial list of Indian Railways accidents since 2010:

2010s


  • 8 May 2010 – The Visakhapatnam - Secunderabad/Hyderabad 2727 Godavari Express escaped from a mishap, as the engine loses the link between the coaches, the driver/Trainman informs the railway station about the detachment and joins the coaches once again, the train safely arrives at the secunderabad railway station on Saturday morning (8 May 2010)

  • 25 May 2010 – A Rajdhani Express train travelling from Delhi to Guwahati derailed in Naugachia, Bihar at IST 6:40 am (UTC+5:30).[52] All passengers survived and 11 sustained minor injuries.[53] The train derailed as the driver applied emergency brakes after listening to a loud explosion nearby. Currently, no Maoistslink is being indicated. There were no casualties reported as the coaches did not fall off the tracks. All passengers were taken from the train. The injured were treated by the medical officials present on the spot.The derailment halted all railway traffic in the Delhi–Guwahati line. While five passenger trains, including the Tatanagar–Chapra Express, have been cancelled, at least three express trains have been diverted. These include the Awadh Assam Express, Mahananda Express and the Barmer–Guwahati Express.[54] A special 17-coach train was sent to take the 986 passengers on board the derailed train to their destinations.


  • 4 June 2010 – Mini bus was hit by the Coimbatore–Mettupalayam special train at an unmanned level-crossing at Idigarai near Coimbatore on Friday. Five people were killed in the accident.[56]

  • 18 June 2010 – At least 27 persons were injured, two of them critically, when the 8084 Amaravati Express from Vasco-da Gama to Howrah derailed near Koppal (Karnataka) after ramming into a road-roller at an unmanned level crossing.[57]


2011[edit]
  • 18 April 2011 – Three coaches of the Mumbai - Delhi Rajdhani Express caught fire near Ratlam district in Madhya Pradesh. The train, carrying nearly 900 passengers caught fire while running between Bikramgarh Alot and Phuria stations in Kota division. The coaches were removed from the train and the fire was put out quickly. No passenger was harmed.[63]




  • 10 July 2011 – The engine along with 4 coaches of Guwahati Puri Express derails between Rangiya and Ghagrapar, Nalbari district, Assam at 8:10 PM, & capsized in a rivulet. The Cause of the disaster presumed to a sabotage to the track with explosives by local millitants. IED wires were found near the accident spot.[68]

  • 12 July 2011 - New Delhi-Patna Rajdhani Express's coach caught fire near outskirts in New Delhi. No casualties.

  • 22 July 2011 - Two wagons of a goods train carrying cement bags derailed near Rambagh railway station under NER zone on Friday morning, no casualties reported.[69]

  • 23 July 2011 - Less than 24 hours after a goods train derailed in Uttar Pradesh's Allahabad district, eight wagons of another goods train on Saturday jumped tracks at almost the same place where the first incident took place.[70]


  • 2 September 2011 - Two bogies of a goods train were damaged and three others derailed after it was hit by a rail engine near the rail yard in Whitefield railway station in Bangalore on Friday.[72]

  • 13 September 2011 - A Chennai suburban MEMU train rammed into a stationary Arakonam-Katpadi passenger train at around 9.30 PM. Ten people were killed and many injured. It happened between Melpakkam and Chitheri Station in Vellore district. The passenger train was waiting for the signal. In the impact eight coaches were derailed and 3 were completely damaged.[73]

  • 22 November 2011 - Howrah-Dehradun express train caught fire- 7 burnt to death. It was around 2.30am when coach number B1 of the Dehradun-bound train caught fire. Later, the fire spread to coach B2. Both coaches were badly burnt, but all the casualties were from B1.[74]
2012[edit]
  • 11 January 2012 - Five persons were killed and nine others, including a child, injured in a collision between the Delhi-bound Brahmaputra Mail and a stationary goods train.[75]

  • 5 February 2012 - Nearly 1,000 passengers of a Gwalior-bound narrow-gauge train escaped unhurt when its engine derailed after hitting a tractor and the coaches got stuck over a canal bridge.[76]

  • 26 February 2012 - Three people died and one man was injured, when Kozhikode-bound Jan Satabdi Express ran into a crowd of people who were watching Uthralikkavu pooram sample fireworks standing on the railway track.[77]

  • 19 March 2012 - Seven persons were injured when the locomotive of 73261 Islampur-Patna MEMU passenger train dashed against a truck at a manned level crossing gate near Daniyawan on Fatuha-Islampur section under the Danapur division of East Central Railway (ECR).[78]

  • 20 March 2012 - 15 people were killed when a train collided with an overcrowded taxi minivan at an unmanned railroad crossing in northern Uttar Pradesh state, Mahamaya Nagar district, 296 kilometres from state capital Lucknow.[79]

  • 26 March 2012 - A loco pilot of a Mainline Electric Multiple Unit (MEMU) train and a truck driver were killed when the speeding passenger train rammed into a boulder-ferrying truck at the Kannamangala gate on the outskirts of Bangalore.[80]

  • 6 May 2012 - Coaches of Mumbai Bound 12138 Firozpur Mumbai Punjab Mail Derailed in Haryana. Coaches from S5 to S11 and even general coaches had derailed. No deaths are reported.

  • 22 May 2012 - The Hubli-Bangalore, Hampi Express collided with a goods train near Penukonda in Andhra Pradesh early on Tuesday morning on its way from Hubli to Bangalore. 14 people were dead and 35 were injured in the collision. The accident happened at around 3:45 am on Tuesday.

  • 31 May 2012 - Howrah-Dehradun-Doon Express,derailed near Jaunpur(U.P.).At least 7 people killed and 15 sevearly injured.

  • 19 July 2012 - One person was killed, four were injured seriously, and nine sustained minor injuries in a collision between a local train and Vidarbha Express near Khardi station near Nashik on Mumbai-Kasara route.

  • 30 July 2012 - One of the coaches of the Chennai-bound Tamil Nadu Express (New Delhi - Chennai) caught fire early on 30 July morning, near Nellore in Andhra Pradesh. 47 people have died and 25 others have been injured.[81]

  • 16 October 2012 - A bogie of the Solapur-bound passenger train from Hyderabad caught fire during its halt at the station in Gulbarga. There were over 15 passengers in the bogie of the Falaknuma Passenger after it arrived at the station at 12:30 PM and caught fire, but six jumped to safety. Some of the passengers were headed for Tuljapur in Maharashtra to attend the Bhavani festival which takes place during Navaratri. Immolation by couple led to fire in train at Gulbarga station, says Railway police[82]

  • 30 Nov 2012 - At least two AC coaches of GT Express caught fire near Gwalior on Friday, claiming several lives

  • 19 December 2012-Indore Yeshwantpur Exp Met an Accident at Medak District near Sankhapur. Accident occurred by hitting a lorry to 300mts. Many were injured.

  • 20 December 2012 - The Loco of Pune Ernakulam Superfast Express slipped from tracks at Lanja village near Nivsar. No one was Injured.
2013[edit]
  • February 2013 - 12618 Hazrat Nizamuddin-Ernakulam South Mangala Lakshadweep SF Express derailed at Pen Railway station which is situated on Panvel-Roha section of Central Railway.Nobody was injured.



  • 2 November 2013 - 10 people were ran over by 13352 Alapuzha-Dhanbad express, near Gotlam in Vizianagaram district on Saturday evening at around 6:30PM .It started after passengers of the 57271 Vijayawada-Rayagada passenger pulled the chain at the railway yard at Gotlam railway station when they heard a rumour that a compartment of the train was on fire. They then alighted the train and jumped onto the tracks at around 6.50pm .It was dark and the passengers didn't see the express train coming on the adjacent rack. The express train ran over them, killing 10 people, and injuring at least 20.[85]

  • 13 November 2013 - A herd of 40 elephants was struck by a passenger train in Chapramari Wildlife Sanctuary.
  • 15 November 2013 - 13 Coaches of Ernakulam Bound 12618 Down Nizamuddin Ernakulam Mangala Lakshadweep Superfast Express were derailed near Ghoti village, at 6.25 am at Kms 145/15 about 30 km from Nashik district. 3 to 4 people died and dozens injured. Out of thirteen coaches,most affected coaches were S11,B1,B2,B3,A1 and Pantry Car. The cause is stated to be possibility of Rail fracture. Injured were shifted to various hospitals in Nashik.[86]
  • 28 December 2013 - An AC coach of the 16594 Bangalore City-Hazur Sahib Nanded express caught fire near Kothacheruvu in Anantapur district of Andhra Pradesh resulting in the death of at least 26 people and injuring 12 others. The incident took place early in the morning around 3:15 am. 54 passengers are expected to be on board in the B1 compartment of the train which was completely gutted in the fire.
2014[edit]
  • A Number of minor mishaps took place in the Mumbai Suburban section of Indian Railways in March and early April.
  • 20 March 2014 An 18-year-old student was killed while nine persons, including two women and a railway guard, were injured when six coaches of a local train derailed after getting uncoupled from the rest of the train at Titwala, 61 km from Chhatrapati Shivaji Terminus.
  • 18 April 2014 - 11068 Faizabad Junction-Lokmanya Tilak Terminus Express derailed near Asangaon in the evening, holding up services on the Central Railway. The engine and one coach of the Faizabad-LTT Express derailed around 8pm. The CR spokesperson said, "There were no injuries and cause of derailment was not known."
  • May 4, 2014 - 50105 Diva Junction-Sawantvadi Passenger train derailed between Nagothane and Roha stations at 9-30 AM. About 20 are dead while about 100 are injured. Several other trains were delayed, cancelled or diverted in the Konkan Railways.[87]
  • 26 May 2014 - 12556 Gorakhpur bound Gorakhdham Express rammed into an stationary goods train near Khalilabad station in Sant Kabir Nagar district of Uttar Pradesh killing at least 25 and injuring over 50.[88]
  • 25 June 2014 - 12236- Dibrugarh Rajdhani Express Derailed near Bihar's Chapra town, Four Killed and Eight injured.[89]

  • 14 December 2014 - 12381 UP Howrah - New Delhi Poorva Express derailed at 8.27 am after leaving Howrah at 8.15 am. 11 sleeper coaches and a pantry car (AC Hot Buffer Car) of the New Delhi-bound Poorva Express derailed at Liluah shortly after leaving Howrah station. There was no casualty or injury to any passenger, railway officials said.
2015[edit]


  • 20 March 2015 – 39 dead, 150 people injured as Dehradun-Varanasi Janta Express derails in Uttar Pradesh's Rae Bareli.[92]


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Stop with the nonsense . This is an article from the nytimes two years ago. I'm certain the safety record is even better today.


Despite a Deadly Crash, Rail System Has Good Safety Record
By KEITH BRADSHERSEPT. 23, 2013

Government data shows that China's rail system has carried about 1.8 billion passengers since the start of 2009. Credit Timothy O'Rourke for The New York Times

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CHANGSHA, China — The crash happened in an instant two years ago, ending 40 lives, injuring 192 people and casting a lasting shadow over the reputation of China’s high-speed rail system.

When a rainstorm briefly disabled the signaling equipment on a high-speed rail line near Wenzhou in southern China on July 23, 2011, one high-speed train stopped on a concrete viaduct and the one behind it did not. The stopped train had just started moving forward again when the trailing train smashed into it, spilling shattered cars off the viaduct and 65 feet down into the fields below.

While the crash is still talked about in China today, statistics suggest that China’s high-speed trains have actually proved to be one of the world’s safest transportation systems so far. Less clear is how long that safety record will last.

Government data shows that the system has carried about 1.8 billion passengers since the start of 2009. Rail experts inside and outside China say they are not aware of any fatal crashes other than the one near Wenzhou. They also note that obsessive attention to the rail system by social media users means that it would be nearly impossible to cover up another fatal high-speed train crash — although there have been unconfirmed reports of pedestrians killed after sneaking past fences and on to the tracks.

Comparing the 40 deaths in the crash two years ago to the number of Chinese high-speed train trips completed without loss of life over the last several years suggests that the trains have been exceptionally safe overall, said Arnold I. Barnett, a mathematician at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology who is one of the world’s best-known experts on aviation safety statistics.

“Chinese high-speed rail has so far established a mortality-risk level that equals or exceeds that of the world’s safest airlines,” Mr. Barnett wrote in an e-mail.

The high-speed rail system’s safety record is particularly good compared with the record of China’s roads, which are 6 to 20 times as deadly per million registered vehicles as in the United States.

China’s aviation system had a poor safety record until the 1990s, when it worked very closely with the Federal Aviation Administration in the United States to revamp its procedures. The passenger death risk per flight has improved since then, but it remained nearly double the level in the United States from 2008 through 2012, according to Mr. Barnett’s statistics.

It is also unreliable. FlightStats, an online aviation data service, calculates that so far this year, Shanghai and Beijing have had far worse on-time departure records than major international airports in any other country that the company tracks, with as few as one in six flights leaving on time — another reason Chinese travelers are switching to high-speed trains.

China’s high-speed rail system faces a huge challenge in maintaining its own safety record of the last two years. And that is not just because of its sheer size, operating nearly 2,000 train trips a day.

China borrowed a mishmash of technologies from major rail companies around the world and then built the system in record time, often relying on domestically produced parts for reasons of nationalism and cost. Settling and sinking of the land underneath the foundations of rail viaducts has already been a concern.

Another worry is that China opted not to use expensive chemical hardening agents for the concrete viaducts, which could result in their showing premature wear and tear. That could limit top speeds, which were already reduced to 186 miles per hour from 217 m.p.h. after the crash two years ago.

The government is now extending high-speed rail lines into seismically active areas of western China that have had many earthquakes since the deadly Sichuan quake in 2008. Earthquakes are a hazard for trains not just because they can move tracks out of alignment, but also because they can disrupt signaling equipment.

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Stop with the nonsense . This is an article from the nytimes two years ago. I'm certain the safety record is even better today.


Despite a Deadly Crash, Rail System Has Good Safety Record
By KEITH BRADSHERSEPT. 23, 2013
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Government data shows that China's rail system has carried about 1.8 billion passengers since the start of 2009. Credit Timothy O'Rourke for The New York Times

Continue reading the main storyContinue reading the main storyShare This Page

CHANGSHA, China — The crash happened in an instant two years ago, ending 40 lives, injuring 192 people and casting a lasting shadow over the reputation of China’s high-speed rail system.

When a rainstorm briefly disabled the signaling equipment on a high-speed rail line near Wenzhou in southern China on July 23, 2011, one high-speed train stopped on a concrete viaduct and the one behind it did not. The stopped train had just started moving forward again when the trailing train smashed into it, spilling shattered cars off the viaduct and 65 feet down into the fields below.

While the crash is still talked about in China today, statistics suggest that China’s high-speed trains have actually proved to be one of the world’s safest transportation systems so far. Less clear is how long that safety record will last.

Government data shows that the system has carried about 1.8 billion passengers since the start of 2009. Rail experts inside and outside China say they are not aware of any fatal crashes other than the one near Wenzhou. They also note that obsessive attention to the rail system by social media users means that it would be nearly impossible to cover up another fatal high-speed train crash — although there have been unconfirmed reports of pedestrians killed after sneaking past fences and on to the tracks.

Comparing the 40 deaths in the crash two years ago to the number of Chinese high-speed train trips completed without loss of life over the last several years suggests that the trains have been exceptionally safe overall, said Arnold I. Barnett, a mathematician at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology who is one of the world’s best-known experts on aviation safety statistics.

“Chinese high-speed rail has so far established a mortality-risk level that equals or exceeds that of the world’s safest airlines,” Mr. Barnett wrote in an e-mail.

The high-speed rail system’s safety record is particularly good compared with the record of China’s roads, which are 6 to 20 times as deadly per million registered vehicles as in the United States.

China’s aviation system had a poor safety record until the 1990s, when it worked very closely with the Federal Aviation Administration in the United States to revamp its procedures. The passenger death risk per flight has improved since then, but it remained nearly double the level in the United States from 2008 through 2012, according to Mr. Barnett’s statistics.

It is also unreliable. FlightStats, an online aviation data service, calculates that so far this year, Shanghai and Beijing have had far worse on-time departure records than major international airports in any other country that the company tracks, with as few as one in six flights leaving on time — another reason Chinese travelers are switching to high-speed trains.

China’s high-speed rail system faces a huge challenge in maintaining its own safety record of the last two years. And that is not just because of its sheer size, operating nearly 2,000 train trips a day.

China borrowed a mishmash of technologies from major rail companies around the world and then built the system in record time, often relying on domestically produced parts for reasons of nationalism and cost. Settling and sinking of the land underneath the foundations of rail viaducts has already been a concern.

Another worry is that China opted not to use expensive chemical hardening agents for the concrete viaducts, which could result in their showing premature wear and tear. That could limit top speeds, which were already reduced to 186 miles per hour from 217 m.p.h. after the crash two years ago.

The government is now extending high-speed rail lines into seismically active areas of western China that have had many earthquakes since the deadly Sichuan quake in 2008. Earthquakes are a hazard for trains not just because they can move tracks out of alignment, but also because they can disrupt signaling equipment.

So people still travel by safest airline,
I prefer even safer transport, CRH(Chinese railway high-speed).
This Saturday, HSR from Wuhan to Chengdu, from Central China to Western China!
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Speedy Trains Transform China
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CHANGSHA, China — The cavernous rail station here for China’s new high-speed trains was nearly deserted when it opened less than four years ago.

Not anymore. Practically every train is sold out, although they leave for cities all over the country every several minutes. Long lines snake back from ticket windows under the 50-foot ceiling of white, gently undulating steel that floats cloudlike over the departure hall. An ambitious construction program will soon nearly double the size of the 16-platform station.

Just five years after China’s high-speed rail system opened, it is carrying nearly twice as many passengers each month as the country’s domestic airline industry. With traffic growing 28 percent a year for the last several years, China’s high-speed rail network will handle more passengers by early next year than the 54 million people a month who board domestic flights in the United States.

Li Xiaohung, a shoe factory worker, rides the 430-mile route from Guangzhou home to Changsha once a month to visit her daughter. Ms. Li used to see her daughter just once a year because the trip took a full day. Now she comes back in 2 hours 19 minutes.

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Nearly every train from Changsha station, leaving minutes apart for cities across China, is sold out, and a big expansion is already planned. Credit Timothy O'Rourke for The New York Times
Business executives like Zhen Qinan, a founder of the stock market in coastal Shenzhen, ride bullet trains to meetings all over China to avoid airport delays. The trains hurtle along at 186 miles an hour and are smooth, well-lighted, comfortable and almost invariably punctual, if not early. “I did not think it would change so quickly. High-speed trains seemed like a strange thing, but now it’s just part of our lives,” Mr. Zhen said.

China’s high-speed rail system has emerged as an unexpected success story. Economists and transportation experts cite it as one reason for China’s continued economic growth when other emerging economies are faltering.

The high-speed rail lines have, without a doubt, transformed China, often in unexpected ways.

For example, Chinese workers are now more productive. A paper for the World Bank by three consultants this year found that Chinese cities connected to the high-speed rail network, as more than 100 are already, are likely to experience broad growth in worker productivity. The productivity gains occur when companies find themselves within a couple of hours’ train ride of tens of millions of potential customers, employees and rivals.

“What we see very clearly is a change in the way a lot of companies are doing business,” said Gerald Ollivier, a World Bank senior transport specialist in Beijing.

Productivity gains to the economy appear to be of the same order as the combined economic gains from the usual arguments given for high-speed trains, including time savings for travelers, reduced noise, less air pollution and fuel savings, the World Bank consultants calculated.

Companies are opening research and development centers in more glamorous cities like Beijing and Shenzhen with abundant supplies of young, highly educated workers, and having them take frequent day trips to factories in cities with lower wages and land costs, like Tianjin and Changsha. Businesses are also customizing their products more through frequent meetings with clients in other cities, part of a broader move up the ladder toward higher value-added products.

Li Qingfu, the sales manager at the Changsha Don Lea Ramie Textile Technology Company, an exporter of women’s dresses and blouses, said he used to travel twice a year to Guangzhou, the commercial hub of southeastern China. The journey, similar in distance to traveling from Boston to Washington, required nearly a full day in each direction of winding up and down mountains by train or by car.

He now goes almost every month on the punctual bullet trains, which slice straight through the forested mountains and narrow valleys of southern Hunan province and northern Guangdong province in a little over two hours, traversing long tunnels and elevated concrete viaducts in rapid succession.

“More frequent access to my client base has allowed me to more quickly pick up on fashion changes in color and style. My orders have increased by 50 percent,” he said.

China relocated large numbers of families whose homes lay in the path of the tracks and quickly built new residential and commercial districts around high-speed train stations.

The new districts, typically located in inner suburbs, not downtown areas, have rapidly attracted large numbers of residents, partly because of China’s rapid urbanization. Enough farm families become city dwellers each year to fill New York City, part of a trend visible during a series of visits to the Changsha high-speed train station over the last four years.

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The ticket lines at the Changsha station. China’s high-speed rail system has outpaced air travel. Credit Timothy O'Rourke for The New York Times

When the station opened at the end of 2009 in an inner suburb full of faded state-owned factories, the neighborhood was initially silent. But by 2011, nearly 200 tower cranes could be counted building high-rises during the half-hour drive from downtown Changsha to the high-speed rail station. On a morning last month, only several dozen tower cranes were visible along nearly the same route. But a vibrant new area of apartment towers, commercial office buildings and hotels had opened near the train station.

China’s success may not be easily reproduced in the West, and not just because few places can match China’s pace of urbanization. China has four times the population of the United States, and the great bulk of its people live in the eastern third of the country, an area similar in size to the United States east of the Mississippi.

“Except for Boston to Washington, D.C., we don’t have the corridors” of high population density that China has, said C. William Ibbs, a professor of civil engineering at the University of California, Berkeley.

China’s high-speed rail program has been married to the world’s most ambitious subway construction program, as more than half the world’s large tunneling machines chisel away underneath big Chinese cities. That has meant easy access to high-speed rail stations for huge numbers of people.

Another impact: air travel. Train ridership has soared partly because China has set fares on high-speed rail lines at a little less than half of comparable airfares and then refrained from raising them. On routes that are four or five years old, prices have stayed the same as blue-collar wages have more than doubled. That has resulted in many workers, as well as business executives, switching to high-speed trains.

Airlines have largely halted service on routes of less than 300 miles when high-speed rail links open. They have reduced service on routes of 300 to 470 miles.

The double-digit annual wage increases give the Chinese enough disposable income that domestic airline traffic has still been growing 10 percent a year. That is the second-fastest growth among the world’s 10 largest domestic aviation markets, after India, which now faces a slowdown as the fall of the rupee has made aviation fuel exorbitantly expensive for air carriers there.

High-speed trains are not only allowing business managers from deep inside China to reach bigger markets. They are also prompting foreign executives to look deeper in China for suppliers as wages surge along the coast.

“We always used to have go down south to Guangzhou to meet with European clients, but now they come up to Changsha more often,” said Hwang Yin, a sales executive at the Changsha Qilu Import and Export Company.

The only drawback: “The high-speed trains are getting very crowded these days.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/24/b...d-train-system-is-huge-success-for-china.html


Despite a Deadly Crash, Rail System Has Good Safety Record

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Government data shows that China's rail system has carried about 1.8 billion passengers since the start of 2009. Credit Timothy O'Rourke for The New York Times

CHANGSHA, China — The crash happened in an instant two years ago, ending 40 lives, injuring 192 people and casting a lasting shadow over the reputation of China’s high-speed rail system.

When a rainstorm briefly disabled the signaling equipment on a high-speed rail line near Wenzhou in southern China on July 23, 2011, one high-speed train stopped on a concrete viaduct and the one behind it did not. The stopped train had just started moving forward again when the trailing train smashed into it, spilling shattered cars off the viaduct and 65 feet down into the fields below.

While the crash is still talked about in China today, statistics suggest that China’s high-speed trains have actually proved to be one of the world’s safest transportation systems so far.

Government data shows that the system has carried about 1.8 billion passengers since the start of 2009. Rail experts inside and outside China say they are not aware of any fatal crashes other than the one near Wenzhou. They also note that obsessive attention to the rail system by social media users means that it would be nearly impossible to cover up another fatal high-speed train crash — although there have been unconfirmed reports of pedestrians killed after sneaking past fences and on to the tracks.

Comparing the 40 deaths in the crash two years ago to the number of Chinese high-speed train trips completed without loss of life over the last several years suggests that the trains have been exceptionally safe overall, said Arnold I. Barnett, a mathematician at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology who is one of the world’s best-known experts on aviation safety statistics.

“Chinese high-speed rail has so far established a mortality-risk level that equals or exceeds that of the world’s safest airlines,” Mr. Barnett wrote in an e-mail.
 
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Speedy Trains Transform China
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The high-speed rail station in Changsha, China, opened less than four years ago. Credit Timothy O'Rourke for The New York Times
CHANGSHA, China — The cavernous rail station here for China’s new high-speed trains was nearly deserted when it opened less than four years ago.

Not anymore. Practically every train is sold out, although they leave for cities all over the country every several minutes. Long lines snake back from ticket windows under the 50-foot ceiling of white, gently undulating steel that floats cloudlike over the departure hall. An ambitious construction program will soon nearly double the size of the 16-platform station.

Just five years after China’s high-speed rail system opened, it is carrying nearly twice as many passengers each month as the country’s domestic airline industry. With traffic growing 28 percent a year for the last several years, China’s high-speed rail network will handle more passengers by early next year than the 54 million people a month who board domestic flights in the United States.

Li Xiaohung, a shoe factory worker, rides the 430-mile route from Guangzhou home to Changsha once a month to visit her daughter. Ms. Li used to see her daughter just once a year because the trip took a full day. Now she comes back in 2 hours 19 minutes.

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Nearly every train from Changsha station, leaving minutes apart for cities across China, is sold out, and a big expansion is already planned. Credit Timothy O'Rourke for The New York Times
Business executives like Zhen Qinan, a founder of the stock market in coastal Shenzhen, ride bullet trains to meetings all over China to avoid airport delays. The trains hurtle along at 186 miles an hour and are smooth, well-lighted, comfortable and almost invariably punctual, if not early. “I did not think it would change so quickly. High-speed trains seemed like a strange thing, but now it’s just part of our lives,” Mr. Zhen said.

China’s high-speed rail system has emerged as an unexpected success story. Economists and transportation experts cite it as one reason for China’s continued economic growth when other emerging economies are faltering.

The high-speed rail lines have, without a doubt, transformed China, often in unexpected ways.

For example, Chinese workers are now more productive. A paper for the World Bank by three consultants this year found that Chinese cities connected to the high-speed rail network, as more than 100 are already, are likely to experience broad growth in worker productivity. The productivity gains occur when companies find themselves within a couple of hours’ train ride of tens of millions of potential customers, employees and rivals.

“What we see very clearly is a change in the way a lot of companies are doing business,” said Gerald Ollivier, a World Bank senior transport specialist in Beijing.

Productivity gains to the economy appear to be of the same order as the combined economic gains from the usual arguments given for high-speed trains, including time savings for travelers, reduced noise, less air pollution and fuel savings, the World Bank consultants calculated.

Companies are opening research and development centers in more glamorous cities like Beijing and Shenzhen with abundant supplies of young, highly educated workers, and having them take frequent day trips to factories in cities with lower wages and land costs, like Tianjin and Changsha. Businesses are also customizing their products more through frequent meetings with clients in other cities, part of a broader move up the ladder toward higher value-added products.

Li Qingfu, the sales manager at the Changsha Don Lea Ramie Textile Technology Company, an exporter of women’s dresses and blouses, said he used to travel twice a year to Guangzhou, the commercial hub of southeastern China. The journey, similar in distance to traveling from Boston to Washington, required nearly a full day in each direction of winding up and down mountains by train or by car.

He now goes almost every month on the punctual bullet trains, which slice straight through the forested mountains and narrow valleys of southern Hunan province and northern Guangdong province in a little over two hours, traversing long tunnels and elevated concrete viaducts in rapid succession.

“More frequent access to my client base has allowed me to more quickly pick up on fashion changes in color and style. My orders have increased by 50 percent,” he said.

China relocated large numbers of families whose homes lay in the path of the tracks and quickly built new residential and commercial districts around high-speed train stations.

The new districts, typically located in inner suburbs, not downtown areas, have rapidly attracted large numbers of residents, partly because of China’s rapid urbanization. Enough farm families become city dwellers each year to fill New York City, part of a trend visible during a series of visits to the Changsha high-speed train station over the last four years.

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The ticket lines at the Changsha station. China’s high-speed rail system has outpaced air travel. Credit Timothy O'Rourke for The New York Times

When the station opened at the end of 2009 in an inner suburb full of faded state-owned factories, the neighborhood was initially silent. But by 2011, nearly 200 tower cranes could be counted building high-rises during the half-hour drive from downtown Changsha to the high-speed rail station. On a morning last month, only several dozen tower cranes were visible along nearly the same route. But a vibrant new area of apartment towers, commercial office buildings and hotels had opened near the train station.

China’s success may not be easily reproduced in the West, and not just because few places can match China’s pace of urbanization. China has four times the population of the United States, and the great bulk of its people live in the eastern third of the country, an area similar in size to the United States east of the Mississippi.

“Except for Boston to Washington, D.C., we don’t have the corridors” of high population density that China has, said C. William Ibbs, a professor of civil engineering at the University of California, Berkeley.

China’s high-speed rail program has been married to the world’s most ambitious subway construction program, as more than half the world’s large tunneling machines chisel away underneath big Chinese cities. That has meant easy access to high-speed rail stations for huge numbers of people.

Another impact: air travel. Train ridership has soared partly because China has set fares on high-speed rail lines at a little less than half of comparable airfares and then refrained from raising them. On routes that are four or five years old, prices have stayed the same as blue-collar wages have more than doubled. That has resulted in many workers, as well as business executives, switching to high-speed trains.

Airlines have largely halted service on routes of less than 300 miles when high-speed rail links open. They have reduced service on routes of 300 to 470 miles.

The double-digit annual wage increases give the Chinese enough disposable income that domestic airline traffic has still been growing 10 percent a year. That is the second-fastest growth among the world’s 10 largest domestic aviation markets, after India, which now faces a slowdown as the fall of the rupee has made aviation fuel exorbitantly expensive for air carriers there.

High-speed trains are not only allowing business managers from deep inside China to reach bigger markets. They are also prompting foreign executives to look deeper in China for suppliers as wages surge along the coast.

“We always used to have go down south to Guangzhou to meet with European clients, but now they come up to Changsha more often,” said Hwang Yin, a sales executive at the Changsha Qilu Import and Export Company.

The only drawback: “The high-speed trains are getting very crowded these days.”
Always buy tickets ahead of time, use your APP, done in one minute.
Nearly all tickets of tomorrow's Changsha-Guangzhou have been sold out!

142 bullet trains from Changsha to Guangzhou tomorrow
12:48- 13:56, only standing tickets of G6151& G6111 & G6023 and one business class ticket(business ticket very pricey)
(10% standing tickets allowed)

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It's my observation that those who are against India's modernization react to facts with only silence.

The fact is that bullet trains are SAFER than air travel. The fact is that bullet trains are more energy efficient, more environmentally friendly, and move more people more cheaply than air travel.


The fact is that Modi-ji wants bullet trains for India. The fact is that India will have bullet trains.

There is nothing you Kangress dogs can do to change that!
 
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Goes to the same illogical argument- your system sucks so come to us. WHy? If our system sucks we should go to the most reliable partner to fix the problem is it not?
Don't you think that the allegations around your high speed network follow a very familiar trail that many of your projects have gone through? Big prestige project- so cut corners and compromise safety for quickly bringing it out and putting it in limelight (may I remind you your space program went through a similar phase once too). And then you have a public fauliure, allegations of corruption and safety compromises and coverups.

How come this never happened to most Japanese projects? They are serious about coming out with a good product first.
He asked you to reply him with facts instead you come up with 2 paragraphs of bullshit. As he said, name one accident in Chinese railway, especially HSR in 2015 then complain about safety standards of Chinese railway.
 
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I bought my ticket from Wuhan to Chengdu last week,
There are 25 bullet trains from Wuhan to Chengdu everyday, all sold out.
I have to transfer in Chongqing this Saturday, from one bullet train to another one which is an added train. Thank God, I opened my APP and saw the new timetable with special services.
:cry:
This crappy 200km/h railway is crowded with too many freight trains, only 60-70 pairs of bullet trains per day.
A real 350km/h parallel HSR will start construction late this year, giving more room to freight as well as passengers who are desperate for more and more services, like every 5 minutes.

@Azizam Wait for my photos this Sat., my fourth trip to Yunnan Province(through Sichuan).
 
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He asked you to reply him with facts instead you come up with 2 paragraphs of bullshit. As he said, name one accident in Chinese railway, especially HSR in 2015 then complain about safety standards of Chinese railway.

You have an opinion.....?
 
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I bought my ticket from Wuhan to Chengdu last week,
There are 25 bullet trains from Wuhan to Chengdu everyday, all sold out.
I have to transfer in Chongqing this Saturday, from one bullet train to another one which is an added train. Thank God, I opened my APP and saw the new timetable with special services.
:cry:
This crappy 200km/h railway is crowded with too many freight trains, only 60-70 pairs of bullet trains per day.
A real 350km/h parallel HSR will start construction late this year, giving more room to freight as well as passengers who are desperate for more and more services, like every 5 minutes.

@Azizam Wait for my photos this Sat., my fourth trip to Yunnan Province(through Sichuan).
Your HSR thread is one of favourite on PDF :enjoy:
 
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